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Jeb Bush's political obituary
WND ^ | Mar 30 05 | Farah

Posted on 03/30/2005 4:07:26 PM PST by churchillbuff

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To: TheDon
You are also pro-abortion too?

No. I am not pro-abortion nor pro-death.

If it were my personal decision, I would not remove Terri's feeding tube.

However if I had to endure the pain of seeing her in this state for 15 years I am quite sure I could think differently about it.

So I am not willing to condemn those who have made this decision.

741 posted on 03/30/2005 7:05:50 PM PST by Jorge
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To: nopardons
" And if you think that you could get REAL Conservatives to vote for Hillary"

That I admit would be difficult, but I would make a great bluff and as we see RINOs are not made of stern stuff, might work.

742 posted on 03/30/2005 7:06:12 PM PST by jpsb
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To: churchillbuff

They are more mad at you, that at the fact an woman's getting starved to death, which by the way I've come to look as "Westernized Honor KIlling." I mean, seeing as it's all so lega and blessed by so many...

What did you DO??

Step on their last frayed nerve, or something?


743 posted on 03/30/2005 7:06:51 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: Peach
Hospices and hospitals will keep you alive indefinitely if that's what you want.

I can tell you from personal experience that is not true.

744 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:07 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Cboldt
That holds that the religious right has an influence.

Yes, and if you're insistent on arguing, find where I implied otherwise on this thread.

745 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Miss Marple

Sounds like it, but no. I am a very active member of the Republican Party. I've been a delegate to every convention since 1996.

I am very disappointed in the President and his brother.


746 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:26 PM PST by Maurice1962 (Just Got To Believe In Miracles)
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To: Cboldt
Thanks.... I've looked for a number as I would assume it would be documented and accounted for via some governmental agency but I've found no data. I'll admit I've not spent volumes of time trying to find it.

My point for asking the question is I suspect it's a much more routine and has occurred voluminous times prior to this one event that has garnered all the attention.
747 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:31 PM PST by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: incredulous joe
Oh, don't go undermining their great mad. Regardless, these bashers would haven't been satisfied.

They are the type that will sit out the next election...you know...to "send a message"!

Problem is that the message they will send will be to the RATS...that they can have another chance.

748 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:43 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: Jorge
This can be spun any way you want to spin it. It looks like the culture of life won a BIG victory even among RINOS. LOL, this is rich, where do they go from here on abortion ?
749 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:50 PM PST by John Lenin (Everything they do backfires, this is no exception)
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To: Howlin

Come, Howlin, play fair and stop dodging. Why couldn't jJeb do what I outlined? A daring leader could've and it's a good plan that might very well have worked.


750 posted on 03/30/2005 7:08:38 PM PST by jpsb
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To: longtermmemmory; Peach
Actually, I suggest a very simple solution. In the case of a person being euthanized, the governor, at the request of a spouse, next of kin or immediate family member, can call for one de novo review by a different judge. And perhaps something about estranged spouses not being able to have custody over an incapacitated spouse.

I don't believe that we can just pass a law and keep this from ever happening again (I'm a conservative, you see and I don't believe in making the world perfect.), but we can do some things that ensure that we err on the side of life. And sometimes they won't be enough to overcome an injustice.

Peach, for one, seems to think that all of the people who support Terri being given the feeding tube are appalled at anyone pulling a feeding tube. Absolutely not. In most cases, these people are either very clearly progressively dying (cancer, Aids) or are quite elderly. Terri is 41 and could live for some time. Granted, the neglect she's already suffered makes recovery in any sense highly unlikely. But when you say that you want the family decide, most pro-lifers agree -- but that Michael Schiavo in no way constitutes Terri's "family".

751 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:08 PM PST by AmishDude (Yes, your buxom, athletic, nymphomaniacal, bright young niece would be perfect for me, set us up.)
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To: sinkspur

Ewwwww.... your post was number 666... I knew you were baaadddd!


752 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:32 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: churchillbuff

We can define the bad guys as the husband, Greer, the lawyer, but there are 2 people who could do something about this insanity, George Bush and Jeb Bush. They will not do anything. MS,Felos,Greer are not our leaders. Bush is our leader. George Bush could take down this precidence setting case within the next hour. But he has chosen to side with Greer by his inaction. Suffer any consequence, but know he can lay his head down on a pillow at night and know he did the right thing.


753 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:36 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (.)
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To: Sunsong

I am not in a position to exert authority, Jeb is. I don't live in Florida.


754 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:59 PM PST by Maurice1962 (Just Got To Believe In Miracles)
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To: jpsb

JPS now you have to vote for Roe v Wade to be overturned. When will you be demanding that your Reps bring it up for a vote in the Senate ?


755 posted on 03/30/2005 7:10:16 PM PST by John Lenin (Everything they do backfires, this is no exception)
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To: Torie
Respect for adherence to the rule of law as a currency on this forum has about as much value these days as the Mark did in Wiemar Germany.

I wouldn't say it's an obscure reference, but it's definitely out of place.

756 posted on 03/30/2005 7:10:39 PM PST by AmishDude (Yes, your buxom, athletic, nymphomaniacal, bright young niece would be perfect for me, set us up.)
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To: streetpreacher
Ewwwww.... your post was number 666... I knew you were baaadddd!

And that you would notice that is why you are a "street" preacher, and will likely remain so.

757 posted on 03/30/2005 7:11:49 PM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Torie

48 hours I think, plus Greer could let lost somewhere for as long as neccessary. Hell declar him a terrorist and send him to Gitmo on a slow boat.


758 posted on 03/30/2005 7:11:51 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

This is for crimes. Now you can make a very good argument that a terminally ill person is treated worse than a death row inmate, but pardons have nothing to do with anything.


759 posted on 03/30/2005 7:12:01 PM PST by AmishDude (Yes, your buxom, athletic, nymphomaniacal, bright young niece would be perfect for me, set us up.)
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To: Peach
Terminally ill people are all people who have little hope of recovering and will die.

The issue of helping a person get food, who has no other aids other than a wheelchair- being seen as on extraneous life support is bizarre.

I don't agree with some Docs assessment of Terri.

Terri was NOT dying. I have personally worked with people less responsive than Terri, and I do not advocate locking them up and starving them to death.

And for all of you who say that "who would want to live that way". Apparently Terri because she is still kicking. BTW- I would never "want" to love as an ugly lesiban- but I don't think we should starve one of them to death.

760 posted on 03/30/2005 7:12:11 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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