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11th Circuit Court Rejects Schiavo Appeal
ABC ^ | Mar 30, 2005 | RON WORD Associated Press Writer

Posted on 03/30/2005 12:25:05 PM PST by jpsb

Edited on 03/30/2005 12:44:39 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Bahbah
For about the 12th time...

They DID NOT agree to hear the appeal. They agreed to let the Schindlers file a motion for rehearing after the time to file the motion had expired.

Period.

Do you think it was cruel to let the Schindlers file their motion? Or to waive the court's rule to do so? I can tell you that most litigants don't get that consideration.

461 posted on 03/30/2005 3:08:18 PM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

The 60,000 Reichsmarks argument. Don't go there.


462 posted on 03/30/2005 3:08:42 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: tomahawk

How many fact-findings has their been on this case? How many courts have heard old and new evidence, heard new hearsay, heard nothing relevant at all?

I'm sorry for being unsympathetic, but why is a woman who likely has the brain capacity of a walnut being given more preferential treatment and access to appeals and courts and findings-of-fact than someone who was convicted of a crime with nothing but circumstantial evidence or of a death row inmate?

You may consider this all judicial activism, but I see it as excessive exploitation of a legal process by people with little or no legal standing (i.e. the Schindlers). I know that's unpopular, but I care more about people in general and their future rights and welfare than I do about a woman who drove herself to heart attack by bulemia and parents who can't face harsh reality.

You get all this crap pushed through NOW, you set the precedent for LIBERALS to do it LATER on something MUCH worse.


463 posted on 03/30/2005 3:09:43 PM PST by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"We simply do not have infinite resources for such situations as this."

So today we got a preview of how government intents to solve the soon to be upon us Socail Security problem. I certinly believe that to be true.

464 posted on 03/30/2005 3:09:47 PM PST by jpsb
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To: justshutupandtakeit
That message is not to fear it unless you perhaps have reason to. I don't think Terri does.

You are confusing death and murder.

We all have to die, but most of us don't want to be murdered just because the ACLU wants it that way.

465 posted on 03/30/2005 3:09:59 PM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The Schindlers have lost almost every court case. The Schindlers' supporters in Congress have lost public support in their meddling with a state issue.

The US Supreme Court, especially Antonin Scalia, considers these life-or-death decisions the whole province of state courts. (See Cruzan if you have any doubt about Scalia's opinion of a federal intervention in the Schiavo case.)

Be generous in your victory. Your viewpoint prevailed.

Many Schindlers' supporters are vicious, bitter and irrational. Let them vent. Ignore them. Don't get down in the gutter with them.

Respond to the rational posters who want to discuss the issues using facts, logic, and respect.

Just my $0.02.

466 posted on 03/30/2005 3:10:03 PM PST by george wythe
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Occam's razor is applicable to all reasoning.

The videos are far from convincing and do not make it clear what happened before the "reactions" or afterward or that these are not similiar to a plant turning towards the sun which does not indicate consciousness.

Doctors who have most conscientiously examined her agree. Those on the Schindler team do not meet the qualification and often haven't even examined the patient.


467 posted on 03/30/2005 3:11:04 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: johnb838

Wouldn't surprise me if he were blackmailed--or if the blackmail was directed at GWB and Jeb was told 'cooperate or GWB's laundry gets aired.'


468 posted on 03/30/2005 3:12:20 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: lugsoul

You just argued that the starvation and dehydration of an "INNOCENT" woman does not warrant them taking the trouble to look beyond the pleading.
That claim belies that there was justice done in this case.
They still have not looked de novo although clearly mandated to do so by Congress.
Neither the law nor justice were served in this case.


469 posted on 03/30/2005 3:12:24 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: syriacus

You are watching autonomic functions not consciousness.


470 posted on 03/30/2005 3:12:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
There is nothing cruel in allowing her to complete her death

Well, since you have conveniently convinced yourself that Terri is no longer a human being, then it's perfectly okay with you to starve and DEHYDRATE her to death...

Not only do you favor euthanisia but a particularly cruel form of it. That is what I find appalling.

471 posted on 03/30/2005 3:12:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita ("I try to speak for those who have no voice. Terri Schiavo has no voice." - Patricia Heaton)
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To: lugsoul
They DID NOT agree to hear the appeal. They agreed to let the Schindlers file a motion for rehearing after the time to file the motion had expired.

Thank you for the clarification.

It's almost a full-time job trying to keep up with the legal filings in this case. The media seem to have lost track too.

472 posted on 03/30/2005 3:12:56 PM PST by george wythe
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To: ninenot

Conspiracy theories now?


473 posted on 03/30/2005 3:13:06 PM PST by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: george wythe
"Many Schindlers' supporters are vicious, bitter and irrational"

What a vicious, bitter and irrational thing to say.

474 posted on 03/30/2005 3:13:25 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Tarantulas

I agree and expect the same. I could never think of putting my sons through such an horror show.


475 posted on 03/30/2005 3:13:50 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: JustPiper
this will kill her mother

That is my fear, Piper. At the very least, it will damage the Schindler family forever.

476 posted on 03/30/2005 3:14:15 PM PST by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Bahbah

You may also want to ask why the Schindler's attorneys asked the court to extend their filing deadline and want this appeal decided, knowing this court has ruled against them previously.


477 posted on 03/30/2005 3:15:16 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Any given day there are thousands of cases like this in the country and life support is removed without controversy

Please provide a cite.

This is the MSM propaganda--unless you have a cite, you're full of crap.

478 posted on 03/30/2005 3:15:17 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: anglian

There is more truth on Michael's side than on the Schindlers. Since his version of reality does not depend on the entire world being in a conspiracy against him.


479 posted on 03/30/2005 3:15:22 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: syriacus

480 posted on 03/30/2005 3:15:28 PM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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