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Morphine = brain damage?
The Mighty Pachyderm ^ | March 29, 2005 | Mighty

Posted on 03/30/2005 8:40:16 AM PST by bmweezer

Morphine Posted 11:27 a.m., Wednesday, March 30, 2005

A 'Schiavo' thought that I haven't heard or seen mentioned on mainstream television: if Terri cannot feel anything (her husband's attorney says that she is 'comfortable') why all of the morphine? Mightly has gone back and forth with this case (against removing the tube, then for it), but on this point, one has to wonder. Sean Hannity has discussed Terri's need for morphine, but where the hell is everyone else?

If she truly is brain-dead, one has to wonder.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: allterri; allthetime; duh; stupidvanity; terrimania; terripalooza; territerriterriterri
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1 posted on 03/30/2005 8:40:16 AM PST by bmweezer
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A 'Schiavo' thought that I haven't heard or seen mentioned on mainstream television: if Terri cannot feel anything (her husband's attorney says that she is 'comfortable') why all of the morphine?

Morphine has othre uses than pain relief.
It is used to stabilize irregular breathing in this case.

SO9

2 posted on 03/30/2005 8:42:37 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: bmweezer

I was wondering about that myself???
if she's brain dead why the morphine???
hmmmmmm....


3 posted on 03/30/2005 8:43:48 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Servant of the 9

"It is used to stabilize irregular breathing in this case."
okay, please excuse my ignorance on this subjecct but I thought they were trying to allow her to die???
what difference does it make whether her breathing is stabilized??? aren't they trying to eliminate the breathing?


4 posted on 03/30/2005 8:46:25 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: bmweezer
Morphine has othre uses than pain relief. >BR>
Yeah, it can also speed up death
5 posted on 03/30/2005 8:46:55 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: bmweezer

MORPHINE WILL SLOW DOWN RESPERATION AND PULSE IN ORDER TO BRING ON A DESIRED RESULT,BY NOW HER BLOOD IS GETTING VERY THICK AND HARD TO CIRCULATE............


6 posted on 03/30/2005 8:48:10 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (MAD DOGS AND ENGLISHMEN)
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To: bmweezer
After three weeks of this non-stop, it's impossible to think up an angle that hasn't been talked about.

A 'Schiavo' thought that I haven't heard or seen mentioned

7 posted on 03/30/2005 8:48:19 AM PST by DManA
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To: Servant of the 9
It is used to stabilize irregular breathing in this case.

In this case? I though she was just a meat-sack that everyone wanted to die. Why stabilize her breathing since that might prolong her life? Or do they just get off on torture?
8 posted on 03/30/2005 8:48:43 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: kellynla

Someone in aspirating with severe irregularly can be very disturbing for anyone nearby. Basically, the morphine is so the people in her immediate vicinity aren't freaked out. It's not really doing anything for or against Terri at this point, other than level out her breathing.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 8:51:30 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Try new Free Republic Lite! - Lite on reason, but with 1000% more hyperbole!)
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To: bmweezer
why all of the morphine?

Morphene is used for pain. Not only for the patient but also because those 'taking care' of a dehydrating patient can't stand to see the 'veggie' suffer. So, if the patient looks like they are 'gently going into the night' it makes their job a hell of a lot easier.

Sort of like when soldiers complained to their Nazi commanders that shooting people in the head did not make them confortable, so they switched to seemingly 'gentler' means, like gassing.

10 posted on 03/30/2005 8:52:59 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: bmweezer

When feeding tubes and life support is withdrawn, it is standard operating procedure to give the patient morphines. Even if the patient can't feel anything.

It's called a "just in case measure" and has been used for years in hospitals, nursing homes and hospices around the country.


11 posted on 03/30/2005 8:53:44 AM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT ISN'T SLOWING DOWN HER HEART WHEN IT IS WORKING VERY HARD TO PUMP VERY THICK BLOOD BY NOW ??


12 posted on 03/30/2005 8:53:59 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (MAD DOGS AND ENGLISHMEN)
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Oh, okay. Thanks for the explanation.
scratching my head over here...LOL

this is all so bizarre

If nothing else, lawyers will be inundated with clients wanting to draw up a living will.


13 posted on 03/30/2005 8:54:43 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: bmweezer

Morphine and other drugs are also given in situations like this as a "just in case" drug. Not because of a specific need.


14 posted on 03/30/2005 8:55:29 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Servant of the 9
Morphine has othre uses than pain relief.
It is used to stabilize irregular breathing in this case.

???? She's so far gone, she can't feel or sense anything, so they dope her up to relieve her of something she can't feel anyway? Huh?
If they're trying to kill her, why would they care about how she breaths? Wouldn't they see suffocating as a good thing, too?

Were you just guessing when you answered? I hope so.

15 posted on 03/30/2005 8:58:12 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: concerned about politics

PURE SPECULATION.......


16 posted on 03/30/2005 8:59:11 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (MAD DOGS AND ENGLISHMEN)
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ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT ISN'T SLOWING DOWN HER HEART WHEN IT IS WORKING VERY HARD TO PUMP VERY THICK BLOOD BY NOW ??

To an extent. You're implying that they're trying to overdose or kill her with morphine, which almost certainly isn't accurate. It may inadvertenly cause her to die a little sooner, but an actual morphine overdose acts fast.

Is your caps locks button stuck?

17 posted on 03/30/2005 9:02:15 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Try new Free Republic Lite! - Lite on reason, but with 1000% more hyperbole!)
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DEPENDING ON THE DOSE ADMINISTERED...........


18 posted on 03/30/2005 9:04:00 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (MAD DOGS AND ENGLISHMEN)
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To: concerned about politics
If they're trying to kill her, why would they care about how she breaths? Wouldn't they see suffocating as a good thing, too?

I'm sure that there are people in the area; nurses, doctors, security guards, patients, etc. They likely don't want to hear someone violently and loudly gasping every few seconds for days on end. There are other people in that hospice, too.

19 posted on 03/30/2005 9:05:13 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Try new Free Republic Lite! - Lite on reason, but with 1000% more hyperbole!)
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..... Sort of like when soldiers complained to their Nazi commanders that shooting people in the head did not make 'them' confortable, so they switched to seemingly 'gentler' means, like gassing. ....

Exactly!

......NO 'moral' involvement.......'guilt'.......allowed for British Darwinist Evolutionist Religion...........'Super Scientists'....

20 posted on 03/30/2005 9:06:39 AM PST by maestro
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