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Update on Feral Cat Legislation in Wisconsin
Rapid City Journal ^ | 30 March 2005

Posted on 03/30/2005 7:01:57 AM PST by rellimpank

Feral cat nuisance plan under attack By Robert Imrie, Associated Press Writer

WAUSAU, Wis. — A La Crosse firefighter who as a youngster cared for a cat named Fluffy ignited a firestorm by proposing that free-roaming wild cats be declared an unprotected species in Wisconsin — just like skunks. People could shoot them, drown them or kill them by any means without being charged with a crime.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: animalrights; blastacat; environment; feralcats; frist; hunting; peta; wisconsin
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To: unbalanced but fair

We also lived in an area where the city folks loved to dump their unwanted dogs and cats. Little girl up the road contracted some skin disease from one of the stray dogs. Almost killer her. We now shoot to kill and ask questions later in order to protect ourselves and our neighbors children.


81 posted on 03/30/2005 8:28:59 AM PST by clearsight
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To: clearsight

Exactly. These feral cats carry many diseases that can even be fatal to a pet. Their in-breeding makes them almost impossible to domesticate. All in all, a no win situation.


82 posted on 03/30/2005 8:33:51 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: Between the Lines
Why don't you trap them have them fix & relocate them. There are programs that fix cats so you don't have to pay for it, at least in my area they do. I am sure if you went to SPCA they could help you out or a local vet. As for the bridge animal dumping, you should contact the SPCA or Humane society. If that gets you nowhere, then maybe try calling animal rights groups like PETA.
83 posted on 03/30/2005 8:36:09 AM PST by JonDavid
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To: kassie

Legislation about domestic cats living in the wild? These people have w-a-a-y too much time on their hands and
w-a-a-a-y too much money. Feral cats have a very valuable role to play in nature -- unless someone else wants to go out and get mice to keep them out of my house.


84 posted on 03/30/2005 8:40:00 AM PST by henderson field
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To: JonDavid
You are a SICK person!!!

The sick person is the person who feeds cats and takes no responsibility for them. That is the person who causes dead cats on the roadside, as sure as if he ran over them himself.

I work for buildings and grounds in a large former military site, now occupied by various government agencies and government contractors. When I started here, we had about twenty people feeding cats and about 200 cats on site. We had diseased and dying cats all over the place. We would have a dead cat on the road out front pretty much every day of the week. But we had not a songbird, chipmunk or squirrel for as far as the eye could see.

The first thing I did was run an education campaign to explain the facts of life to our ever-so-compassionate cat feeding folk. A few weeks later I boarded up every location where cat feeding was going on, and got management on board from each group to eliminate the feeding thru threats of personnel action. Finally I got a animal control contractor to trap and euthanize the remaining animals. We were down to about 60 cats by then, 50 of which were trapped. We made the trapped animals available to the people who had been feeding for all those years, and only one cat was taken home.

I was not a popular guy when all this was going on, but it had to be done. Now, several years later, I have no cats whatsoever. They are simply not a part of the wildlife mix if nobody feeds them. But I do have songbirds, raptors, wild turkeys, fox, chipmunks, squirrels and just about every other critter under the Sun. It was a choice between dying and diseased cats and a healthy mix of diverse wildlife. Which one would you choose? Which choice is cruel and sick?

As for that one cat taken home? I still have him today.

85 posted on 03/30/2005 8:40:56 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: rellimpank

If we are concerned about "invasive" critters let's look at the hispanics, africans, europeans and asians.


86 posted on 03/30/2005 8:44:04 AM PST by henderson field
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To: unbalanced but fair
We were literally invaded by dumped off dogs and cats to the point that our neighbors became a non-profit tax exempt animal shelter for unwanted animals. Now they make a living taking these animals in and all that donated money from the filthy rich folks who love animals so much. We found it difficult to sleep at night with over 300 barking dogs less than 100 yds. from our home and found it necessary to move to the nearest small town to get some peace and quiet. Quite a horror story. THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU IRRESPONSIBLE, USED TO BE, ANIMAL OWNERS.
87 posted on 03/30/2005 8:44:44 AM PST by clearsight
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To: clearsight

WOW! There weren't any zoning restrictions you could've have used?


88 posted on 03/30/2005 8:48:07 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: clearsight

Oops. I must have a typing stutter. Ignore "have."


89 posted on 03/30/2005 8:49:48 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: unbalanced but fair
Exactly. These feral cats carry many diseases that can even be fatal to a pet. Their in-breeding makes them almost impossible to domesticate. All in all, a no win situation.


If let you cat out, yes they catch diseases. However, they would have to be bitten or transfer fluids in good quantities to get sick. Cat diseases do not cross over to other animals. As for the inbreeding, I don't know about that. However the Cat experts that I know tell me if you get a feral kitten early enough, it can be domesticated. Someone placed a 2 week old feral kitten hanging by her neck on my wooded fence. I brought her in. I had to ween her by bottle. Yes she was a little wild (wild being a survival instinct) at first. But I was able to domesticate her. As for adult feral, from my experience it may take a long time, but some can be domesticated. For instance, you would place a fixed feral cat in a pen. Tie a glove on a pole. Try to pet the feral with glove. Over time you try to get closer to the feral using the pole glove method. Again it may take some time.
90 posted on 03/30/2005 8:50:58 AM PST by JonDavid
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To: gridlock

There was a feral cat living under the shed behind my house in Durango. She would have five kittens in the spring, the coyotes would eat them all, and she'd have another five the next spring. The cycle of life and death continues. People have imaginings about 60 cats in two years should get out of the city and expose themselves to life.


91 posted on 03/30/2005 8:51:59 AM PST by henderson field
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To: Maria S

Oh by the way people can get heart worm from their animals and other diseases (tape worms). Feline Cat leukemia is contagious to humans. Get rid of the damn cat.


92 posted on 03/30/2005 8:52:05 AM PST by clearsight
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To: add925

Thanks for that link. The Trap/Neuter/Release programs look very interesting. I'll have to see if I can find one in my area.


93 posted on 03/30/2005 8:53:36 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock
I advocate cat spaying & neutering, geting their shots, adoption for cats. You did your best. That's all I ask from people.
94 posted on 03/30/2005 8:56:28 AM PST by JonDavid
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To: henderson field

Feeding fetile wild cats leads to a heck of a lot of dead cats in a fairly short amount of time. Whether it is 30 or 60 or 120 or it takes two or three years to reach the "too many" plateau is not really all that relevant.


95 posted on 03/30/2005 8:57:33 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: unbalanced but fair
We were outside any township or city that had ordinances. We called every animal control and humane society we could muster in our county and state. Some came out and fined them but would not shut them down. Local justice of peace would send out 30 or 40 people twice a month to work off their community service at that place...Humph...our tax dollars at work to suicide our life dream of a debt free place out in the country. It became obvious after much frustration that these people were being aided by the county commissioner and other politico's in the county.Spent five years building a beautiful log home on that acreage.......still trying to get over it. Answer to prayer though... an unknown virus to the veterinarians in the area went through a few years ago and wiped out half of the 300 plus dogs and cats......and to bad our dog and cat and other neighbors animals also. The animals just stopped eating or drinking and just dried up and died. They became walking skeletons. Had to put down ours. Oh this is to much.........
96 posted on 03/30/2005 9:07:34 AM PST by clearsight
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To: clearsight

A friend of my sister had a similar experience. The county animal welfare people refused to do much. Luckily, the state stepped in and closed the place down. The state used health and environmental reasons, not animal welfare. The owners had been dumping feces, etc. at the back of the property and it had washed down and contaminated a creek.
And a log home too! You have my sympathy. That is the one house I hated to leave. But my ex was transferred so we had to sell. I loved telling people my cat was climbing the walls!


97 posted on 03/30/2005 9:17:15 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: unbalanced but fair
We called EPA for possible feces and urine contamination of our pond that was below them and their pond. This water made its way for twelve miles eventually into the drinking water supply of a sizable city near us. The EPA didn't care a crap. Couldn't get them to come out there. The E.P.A. only acts when it gives an advantage to their real political agenda. How many gallons and lbs. of waste are generated a day by over 300 dogs and cats????? This stuff was not being carted to a dumpster either. Get the picture??
98 posted on 03/30/2005 9:27:48 AM PST by clearsight
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To: JonDavid
Why don't you trap them have them fix & relocate them.

Trapping on my property is impossible. I own dogs, cats, chickens, guineas, pea fowl, turkeys and goats that I let roam my property freely. I would only end up trapping one of my own animals. I did redo my fence with a smaller wire mesh that keeps the dogs and other larger animals out, but it doesn't stop the cats.

As for the bridge animal dumping, you should contact the SPCA or Humane society. If that gets you nowhere, then maybe try calling animal rights groups like PETA.

A few years back several of my neighbors took the problem to the County Commission, SPCA and the Humane Society. The HS said it had no funds for such things, SPCA and County Commission said that they would prosecute but that it was up to us to report on who was dumping. My neighbor living closet to the bridge went so far as to set up a video camera and recorder to catch these guys. After taping about twenty of them he took the footage to SPCA and County Commission. Since all the dumpers were out-of-staters (we live only a mile from the state line) and dumping animals only a misdemeanor no authorities could do anything.

As for PETA, they would be more concerned that I raise my hogs in a pen or that I raise animals for slaughter, than they would about the city folk setting domestic animals free to roam the wild.

99 posted on 03/30/2005 9:30:17 AM PST by Between the Lines (True Christianity is the best kept secret around.)
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To: henderson field
If we are concerned about "invasive" critters let's look at the Hispanics, Africans, Europeans and Asians.

Possibly an open season on them?

100 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:45 AM PST by Between the Lines (True Christianity is the best kept secret around.)
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