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Fed Appeals Court Grant Terri's Parents Petition for Rehearing
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Posted on 03/29/2005 9:36:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Edited on 03/29/2005 9:59:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: NautiNurse

Her cerebral cortex is liquified. She only has brain stem function. It's in the guardian ad litem report.


921 posted on 03/30/2005 3:17:35 AM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: jude24

What did you eat for lunch today?


922 posted on 03/30/2005 3:18:34 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: jude24

Too me, the basic argument here is this. Materialists have one view of life, and those who believe in a Creator of all have a completely view.

One side is right, and the other wrong.


923 posted on 03/30/2005 3:19:09 AM PST by jacquej
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To: jude24
Although, I maintian Terri Schaivo is beyond disabled. "Disabled" means that you can't do some things, but you still have consciousness. Terri is brain-dead. Only her brain stem still works. That's well past the bright line of "disabled" to dead.

If I am a solipsist then I wouldn't believe that anybody has consciousness but me. The fact is, consciousness is entirely subjective and you can't tell the difference between anyone and a lifeless automaton going through the motions because you can't get inside anyone else's heads.
924 posted on 03/30/2005 3:19:15 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: jude24

I am addressing your definitions--again, they are factually false.


925 posted on 03/30/2005 3:20:42 AM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: jude24

I hope that wasn't too tough a question.


926 posted on 03/30/2005 3:20:48 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

It's an irrelevant question.


927 posted on 03/30/2005 3:21:50 AM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: jacquej
Too me, the basic argument here is this. Materialists have one view of life, and those who believe in a Creator of all have a completely view. One side is right, and the other wrong.

No, the issue is beyond right and wrong. You cannot agree on what is right or wrong if you cannot agree on the standard of right and wrong on which an action is to be measured.
928 posted on 03/30/2005 3:22:27 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Thanks.

Oh man it just keeps getting worse!

Thanks for Why Judicial Appointments Do NOT Matter (Schiavo) It's a keeper.

Please let me know what you think about http://www.cpforlife.org/id139.htm

Thanks!


929 posted on 03/30/2005 3:22:53 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: jude24

#874 "I believed she died 15 years ago"
This statement is neither correct in fact or in law.
You repeat the same error in this post.
You will not find a single medical or legal authority to support your claim that she is not disabled but dead.


930 posted on 03/30/2005 3:23:17 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: jude24
If you're really interested in facts, I'm linking you to the codeblueblog. You might benefit from the medical information/discussion. I'll repeat his challenge to any radiologist. Review the atrophied CT scans of many elderly patients who are functioning quite well thank you and daring anyone to pick out the PVS patient. (I can personally assure you, it would be difficult).

http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/

If this doesn't come out as a direct link, you can cut and paste.

931 posted on 03/30/2005 3:24:34 AM PST by lainde
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To: jude24

You still have to respond to my previous post regarding the 1st gurdian ad litem report.
It seems you are not very good with definitions nor with stating the facts of the case accurately.


932 posted on 03/30/2005 3:25:30 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: jude24

Wrong answer. I didn't think it'd be that tough for you to answer. Are you disabled?


933 posted on 03/30/2005 3:26:34 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: jude24
Let me walk you through this slowly:

Under the ADA, an individual with a disability is a person who:

1. has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities;
2. has a record of such an impairment; or
3. is regarded as having such an impairment.

One of the basic clinical requirements for brain death is the absence of spontaneous respirations.

Just because you want it to be true doesn't make it fact.

934 posted on 03/30/2005 3:27:49 AM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
What do you make of the article that the link at post 50 on this thread leads to?

Any reason for optimism there?

935 posted on 03/30/2005 3:29:15 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: NautiNurse
Okay. "Brain dead" is sloppy terminology.

Her cerebral cortex is virtually dead, is it not? It's liquified, is it not?

The functional part of her brain is the brain stem, correct?

Am I right on this part?

936 posted on 03/30/2005 3:29:34 AM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: cpforlife.org
Please let me know what you think about http://www.cpforlife.org/id139.htm

Just a glance at the links tells me you think exactly what I've been posting for two weeks. Another thread to look at:
OPEN LETTER TO HUGH HEWITT RE: TERRI SCHIAVO and the JUDICIAL OLIGARCHY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368633/posts
937 posted on 03/30/2005 3:30:42 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: northernlightsII

For you edification since you are so quick to dispense with those you deem unworthy please remember
"THAT WE ARE ALL ONLY TEMPORARILY NON IMPAIRED."


938 posted on 03/30/2005 3:30:54 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The 11th circuit is just pathetic in this. Nothing more than ceremonial hand washing. If they find in favor of the appeal, what order would we get from them.....

"A resurrection is hereby so ordered!

939 posted on 03/30/2005 3:31:14 AM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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To: jude24
"Brain dead" is sloppy terminology.

You got that right. Now, let's work on the disability definition.

940 posted on 03/30/2005 3:32:00 AM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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