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Fed Appeals Court Grant Terri's Parents Petition for Rehearing
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Posted on 03/29/2005 9:36:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Edited on 03/29/2005 9:59:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

FEDERAL APPEALS COURT WILL LET TERRI'S PARENTS FILE A PETITION FOR REHEARING FOR AN INJUNCTION TO REINSERT FEEDING TUBE... BREAKING


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Court Says Yes To Schiavo Parents


March 30, 2005

(CBS/AP) A federal appeals court early Wednesday granted Terri Schiavo's parents the right to file a petition for rehearing for an injunction that could allow their daughter's feeding tube to be reconnected.

The ruling came just after midnight from a federal appeals court in Atlanta.

On Tuesday, Schiavo's 12th full day without food or water, the Rev. Jesse Jackson prayed with her parents and joined conservatives in calling for state lawmakers to order her feeding tube reinserted.

The former Democratic presidential candidate was invited by Schiavo's parents to meet with activists outside Schiavo's hospice. His arrival was greeted by some applause and cries of "This is about civil rights!"

"I feel so passionate about this injustice being done, how unnecessary it is to deny her a feeding tube, water, not even ice to be used for her parched lips," he said. "This is a moral issue and it transcends politics and family disputes."

As the Schiavo deathwatch drags on, CBS News Correspondent Mark Strassmann spoke with two families who grappled with the same issues as the Schindlers and Michael Schiavo. On one side are Dorothy and Michael Brocato, who have provided care for their brain-damaged daughter Lisa, who suffered brain damage from a heart attack 15 years ago.

"We have devoted our lives to taking care of Lisa, says her mother. The Brocatos are sympathetic to the Schindler's wish to keep Terri Schiavo alive

"I love her. I love her. I couldn't picture not having her around me,'' says Dorothy Brocato.

Ron Oister has watched the Schiavo drama play out from a very different perspective. When Oister's father was essentially brain-dead, his son's wrenching decision was to let his father go.

"It was very hard,'' Oister told Strassmann. "That was my father. And he was in front of me. And I knew he could never return to what he had been."

Oister says Schiavo's parents helped create this needless public spectacle because they refused to face their hard reality.

"She died then, not now. My own experience would say that one ends life at that time."

Jesse Jackson's visit provided an emotional boost to Schiavo's parents and siblings, who have maintained that Schiavo would want to be kept alive. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, insists he is carrying out her wishes by having the feeding tube pulled.

Mary Schindler, Terri Schiavo's mother, later made a terse but emotional appeal to Michael Schiavo: "Michael and Jodi, you have your own children. Please, please give my child back to me." Michael Schiavo and fiancee Jodi Centonze have two children, born long after Terri Schiavo fell into paralysis.

Although supporters of the Schindlers have claimed the dehydrated woman is being denied comfort measures such as ice chips for her dry mouth or balm for chapped lips, George Felos, the husband's attorney, defended how Schiavo is being cared for.

"Obviously, the parents and the siblings are desperate. Desperation may lead to different perceptions," Felos told CNN. "I can only tell you what I've seen, and Terri is dying a very peaceful, cared-for death." Felos did not return phone messages seeking comment from The Associated Press.

Jackson said he asked Michael Schiavo for permission to see the brain-damaged woman but was denied. He also telephoned black legislators in a last-ditch effort to bring back a bill that would prohibit severely brain-damaged patients from being denied food and water if they didn't express their wishes in writing. Lawmakers rejected the legislation earlier this month and appeared unlikely to reconsider it.

One of those contacted by Jackson, Democratic state Sen. Gary Siplin, said he told Jackson the issue had been "thoroughly discussed." Senate Democratic leader Les Miller added, "I have voted. It's time to move on."

The chief sponsor of the measure, state Sen. Daniel Webster, said he knew of no changed votes and that Jackson's efforts may have come too late.

"If he could sway votes — and I'm certain he may be able to — it would have been helpful if he had done that a little earlier" said Webster, a Republican. "We're running out of time. To do it now is not as timely as a couple of weeks ago would have been."

Bob Schindler described his daughter as "failing" following his visit Tuesday.

"She still looks pretty darn good under the circumstances," Schindler said. "You can see the impact of no food and water for 12 days. Her bodily functions are still working. We still have her."

First lady Laura Bush also commented on the case Tuesday, saying the government was right to have intervened on behalf of Schiavo.

"It is a life issue that really does require government to be involved," Bush said aboard a plane bound for Afghanistan, where she was to promote education and women's rights.

During Jackson's visit, a man was tackled to the ground by officers when he tried to storm into the hospice, police said. He became the 47th protester arrested since the feeding tube was removed March 18. The man had two bottles of water with him but did not reach the hospice door, police said.

Doctors have said Terri Schiavo, 41, would probably die within a week or two of the tube being removed. She suffered catastrophic brain damage in 1990 when her heart stopped for several minutes because of a chemical imbalance apparently brought on by an eating disorder.

The parents also lost another round in the courts Tuesday when an appeals court upheld a pervious ruling by Judge George Greer that blocked the Department of Children and Families from intervening in the case.




Court Says Yes To Schiavo Parents


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To: PigRigger

...keep praying that Terri hangs in there...just to spite those who wish her death...hang in there, Terri, hang in there....


1,001 posted on 03/30/2005 4:41:57 AM PST by smiley
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To: WKUHilltopper
"I doubt if she has much time or can ever recover from going this long."

We've been prauying for a miracle. As long as there's life, there's hope.

1,002 posted on 03/30/2005 4:43:31 AM PST by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: jude24
I searched the Wolfson document.

Luckily for Wolfson he didn't actually say that the following statement is true...
"I don't think, therefore, I am not." .

(Can I infer that Wolfson took Logic 101?)

1,003 posted on 03/30/2005 4:44:50 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"By executive order stating the grounds and filed with the custodian of state records, the governor may suspend ... or any county officer, for malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, drunkenness, incompetence, permanent inability to perform official duties, or commission of a felony, and may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension."

He could suspend those blowhards for a day, saying, "The thought that they would shoot state officers to ensure someone's death by slow torture is ludicrous and intolerable. However, due to the controversy of this matter, suspension will be for one day, so that the voters of that county can keep their chosen guardians. In the meantime, I have sent state troopers to that most interesting county with EO powers during that day to keep law enforced as usual."

1,004 posted on 03/30/2005 4:45:30 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
"Whats new about this?"

Jesse Jackson. No doubt he's got some influence in high low places. It's probably chaged some minds.

1,005 posted on 03/30/2005 4:45:43 AM PST by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: syriacus; jude24

If they can't get elementary logic right, it makes anything else they say suspect, suspect of an agenda at work.


1,006 posted on 03/30/2005 4:45:55 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: sweetliberty
Felos missed an opportunity to mug for the cameras? What's up with that?

He's probably at the airport, making sure that airplanes don't fall from the sky. (Felos said God told him that he has that power)

1,007 posted on 03/30/2005 4:46:38 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: sweetliberty
Felos missed an opportunity to mug for the cameras? What's up with that? This is indeed a new turn of events.

He is so creepy--he was probably up all night meditating about the last chapter of his latest book on souls crying out to him to kill them.

1,008 posted on 03/30/2005 4:47:27 AM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
f they can't get elementary logic right, it makes anything else they say suspect, suspect of an agenda at work.

Liberals and logic...these two things don't mix.

1,009 posted on 03/30/2005 4:48:55 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: PigRigger

Nope. This is a pro forma exercise to declare the law unconstitutional IMO. That's why no immediate action.


1,010 posted on 03/30/2005 4:49:02 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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MURDER BY NUMBERS (LYRICS to Song bt The Police)
http://www.lyricsfreak.com


Written by sting & andy summers

Once that you’ve decided on a killing First you make a stone of your heart And if you find that your hands are still willing Then you can turn a murder into art

There really isn’t any need for bloodshed You just do it with a little more finesse If you can slip a tablet into someone’s coffee Then it avoids an awful lot of mess

It’s murder by numbers, one, two, three It’s as easy to learn as your abc Murder by numbers, one, two, three It’s as easy to learn as your abc

Now if you have a taste for this experience And you’re flushed with your very first success Then you must try a twosome or a threesome And you’ll find your conscience bothers you much less

Because murder is like anything you take to It’s a habit-forming need for more and more You can bump off every member of your family And anybody else you find a bore

Because it’s murder by numbers, one, two, three It’s as easy to learn as your abc Murder by numbers, one, two, three It’s as easy to learn as your abc

Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious In history’s great dark hall of fame All our greatest killers were industrious At least the ones that we all know by name

But you can reach the top of your profession If you become the leader of the land For murder is the sport of the elected And you don’t need to lift a finger of your hand

Because it’s murder by numbers, one, two, three It’s as easy to learn as your abc Murder by numbers, one, two, three It’s as easy to learn as your a, b, c, d, e


1,011 posted on 03/30/2005 4:49:37 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: syriacus
"He's probably at the airport, making sure that airplanes don't fall from the sky"

But suppose someone on one of those planes told him they wanted to die? Would he make the plane crash then? I mean, it would only be a matter of time until everyone on the plane wanted to die, right? Might as well expedite things a little.

1,012 posted on 03/30/2005 4:50:37 AM PST by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: sweetliberty

WHY AREN'T THEY DOING SOMETHING - She'll be dead anyway.


1,013 posted on 03/30/2005 4:51:04 AM PST by greccogirl ("Freedom belongs to those who are willing to sacrifice the most for it")
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To: smiley
keep praying that Terri hangs in there...just to spite those who wish her death...hang in there, Terri, hang in there..

Posting and praying an SOS for Terri.

post post post PRAY PRAY PRAY post post post

1,014 posted on 03/30/2005 4:51:31 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"to declare the law unconstitutional..."

Which law might that be?
1,015 posted on 03/30/2005 4:52:21 AM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: syriacus
I must have missed the article about the logic error you are discussing.

The statement "I think, therefore I am" IS logically equivalent to "I am not, therefore I do not think".

Just the same way "I am {Felos, Greer, MS}, therefore I am evil" is logically equivalent to "I am not evil, therefore I am not {Felos, Greer, MS}". It is NOT equivalent to "I am not {Felos, Greer, MS}, therefore I am not evil".

1,016 posted on 03/30/2005 4:52:27 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: sweetliberty
But suppose someone on one of those planes told him they wanted to die?

Let's ask Michael, and the other Schiavos, if they spoke with any of the passengers.

1,017 posted on 03/30/2005 4:52:47 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: syriacus
I searched the Wolfson document. Luckily for Wolfson he didn't actually say that the following statement is true... "I don't think, therefore, I am not."

Wolfson: " "Cogito, ergo sum." This logic would imply that unless we are aware and conscious, we cease to be."

"unless we are aware and conscious, we cease to be" = "I don't think, therefore, I am not."
1,018 posted on 03/30/2005 4:57:53 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
What you say about Felos, Greer, and MS could be true. And I think, facts exposing their evil intentions will eventually come out.

Statement B, "I don't think, therefore, I am not"
cannot be proven true from Statement A, "I think, therefore, I am,"
because Statement B is merely the inverse of the Cartesian Statement A.

1,019 posted on 03/30/2005 4:59:58 AM PST by syriacus (Greer honors alleged death wishes of mentally unsound, bulimic women by starving them to death.)
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To: CaptainJustice
Yeah, everybody that publishes stories about the hypocrisy and irrationality of the Terri Cult is a lying magazine. It's all a giant conspiracy against the Second Coming of the Virgin Mary, right?

Then feel free to leave, ya friggin ghoul. And what's with the subtle anti-Christianism here?
1,020 posted on 03/30/2005 5:00:12 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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