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1 posted on 03/29/2005 6:46:02 PM PST by pkpjamestown
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The fact is most America could not find Turkey on the map and couldn't care less. Sorry, Turkey just doesn't occupy much bandwidth in the American zeitgeist.


2 posted on 03/29/2005 6:48:28 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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Turkey and Greece are so close, so why is Turkey a problem and Greece not a problem.

Hmmm, let's compare and contrast. Greece is to Christian and Turkey is to _____________. Anyone care to fill in the blank.



3 posted on 03/29/2005 6:50:35 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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We may feel better by criticizing President George W. Bush and his entourage, but this won't resolve our problem. In other words, this cancer, which is giving signs of spreading to other parts of the body, cannot be treated by removing the cancerous ulcer.


4 posted on 03/29/2005 6:50:50 PM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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An interesting perspective- and quite clear-headed. The fact is- IF Turkey had done as Rummy said- the entire face of the war would have been different. Being able to come in from the north at the same time as we roared up from the south would have produced a different set of dynamics- favorable to us.


7 posted on 03/29/2005 6:56:58 PM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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Turkey is either for us or against us. Having chosen to be against (legitimate choice), provokes an angry reaction from the USA (also a legitimate choice. Turkey, having made it's bed, will lie in it (forseable consequence).

Don't like it? Tough $h!t.

9 posted on 03/29/2005 6:58:05 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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First, this is a chicken little article. I have not smelled anything more than a whiff of annoyance at Turkey. Yeah, they plunged the dagger in when we needed them most. Yeah, it'll leave a mark, maybe. But I sense nothing on the level this guy is talking about.

Is it possible that this is aimed at steeling Turkey's resolve to swallow whatever BS the EU may demand for admittance? Hmmm.... now where did I put that foil wrap?

13 posted on 03/29/2005 7:00:45 PM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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People in America don’t hate Turkey – it’s just that we went out of our way to support them in every way possible, and in-turn Turkey held mass anti-American street parties on the eve of war.

Frankly Turkey isn’t worth hating and that is their crisis; THEY DON’T MATTER. Before they were our only Muslim ally in the mid-east, times have changed. Now it seems that all the special favors we gave them went to waste and we don’t want to make that mistake again.

My advice to Turkey is to find another friend who will spend their riches to help your people, and try not to stab them in the back. Good riddance.

Holtz
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14 posted on 03/29/2005 7:00:55 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (<<<------- shameless promotion- visit & win my love forever)
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I lived in Turkey as a kid. Nice place, but horribly backwards.

Maybe 1 in 10,000 Americans know of Turkey and would giggle at the mention of the name, 'Turkey'.


20 posted on 03/29/2005 7:09:30 PM PST by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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I like Turkey and mashed potatoes and gravy


30 posted on 03/29/2005 7:38:56 PM PST by waynebobo
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I have not forgiven nor forgotten Turkey's betrayal and weakness at the one critical time that we needed them.

I hope we have the opportunity to return the favor in kind - and have the resolve to do it.

31 posted on 03/29/2005 7:39:04 PM PST by StatenIsland
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One way for Turkey to mend fences with the USA, is ? if they have a good oil supply is to sell us some oil very cheap ( with O.P.E.C 's hands out of the deal ).
32 posted on 03/29/2005 7:41:21 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Turkey is simply of little interest as a forward base since the demise of the Soviet Empire. Turks are okay though, hardworking, decent, honest, sincere, etc.


33 posted on 03/29/2005 7:43:41 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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The fact is our counterparts are making assessments based on misperceptions, and they are getting angrier by the day.

No misperceptions here raghead...We know what you did and why you did it...We don't care if you like us...That's not the issue...You were given the choice to be with us...You chose to be against us...Too bad, for you...

34 posted on 03/29/2005 7:44:59 PM PST by Iscool
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Who was this guy talking to? Richard Gere, the self-proclaimed spokesman of the world I suppose.
40 posted on 03/29/2005 8:00:21 PM PST by Ruth A.
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I certainly haven't forgotten. Turkey's behavior in the days leading up to the invasion was fully as bad as Chirac's. They led us on as long as possible, and then they stabbed us in the back. And they have continued to make trouble every chance they get.

If they had told us earlier that they wouldn't let us through to Northern Iraq, we could have revised out plans. But they deliberately strung us along, and kept one of our key divisions out of Iraq for weeks as a result.

The problems in the Sunni Triangle are largely a result of this Turkish betrayal.

Sure, most Americans don't know where Turkey is. But those who are more informed, and care about foreign policy, certainly do.


43 posted on 03/29/2005 8:16:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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US reaction against Turkey should be taken seriously

The gratuitous, obligatory mention of WKRP's "Turkeys Away" episode.

47 posted on 03/29/2005 8:30:48 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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I plan on doing something about Turkey. I'm getting my turkey tags in a couple days in preparation of spring turkey season....errr, wait. It's not THAT kind of turkey? Nevermind....


51 posted on 03/29/2005 9:10:30 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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The cancer is spreading.

Sorry..we've got a cancer already in USA, it's a company called ACXIOM. It's garnering and hoarding (for sale) all of our personal info and data about ourselves. This must be reported to all people !

53 posted on 03/29/2005 9:13:17 PM PST by timestax
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Turkey is rapidly losing their relevence to the US. We are constructing permanent US bases in Iraq, which is even more strategically located than Turkey.

Major Turkish weapons systems are almost entirely of US origin, and their military rediness could be seriously degraded at the stroke of a pen.

I would not say that Turkish, US relations are beyond repair, but as the author states, the ball is in their court, and if they fail to act soon, it could be too late.

We will not soon forget the backstabbing durring the run up to OIF. Several investigative inquiries have already determined that one of the major blunders in the early days of OIF was the low number of combat troops on the ground. Turkey bears much of the responsibility for this.

If the Turkish population does not wish an alliance with the US, that is their option as a democracy. It would be far more troublesome to them than to us. We are building new alliances in the area, and have lost much of the gratitude we owed them from their actions durring the cold war.

I consider the Kurds a far more reliable ally at this time.

60 posted on 03/30/2005 5:16:19 AM PST by NeonKnight
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Isn't Turkey just to the Northwest of Kurdistan?
;-)


64 posted on 03/31/2005 12:46:20 PM PST by Bon mots
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