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Wis. Professor to Test Stun Guns on Pigs (PETA outraged)
My Way via Drudge ^ | 3/29/05 | Ryan J. Foley

Posted on 03/29/2005 4:08:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge

MADISON, Wis. (AP) - A professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison plans to study whether stun guns alone can kill pigs - or whether other medical factors must be at play - as part of an effort to understand why 70 people have died in North America since 2001 after being shocked by Tasers.

Led by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, outraged animal rights activists are calling for an end to the two-year study by John Webster, a professor emeritus of biomedical engineering.

Police hail stun guns as a nonlethal way to restrain unruly suspects. But critics blame the weapons for dozens of deaths, and police departments are reviewing how they use the devices, which shoot two small darts carrying about 50,000 volts of electricity to temporarily paralyze people.

Webster wants to test his hypothesis that Taser-related deaths were the result of heart failure fueled by drug use and other medical factors, not electrocution by the devices. To do so, researchers will begin in the next month studying how Taser electrical currents flow through 150-pound pigs.

Of three groups of pigs in the study, one will be given cocaine, one will be shocked with the devices, and one will be given both cocaine and electric blasts. Some will be subjected to Webster's "SuperTaser," up to 30 times as powerful as the model police use. All pigs will be on anesthesia so they won't feel pain.

"If the hypothesis is correct that Tasers do not electrocute the heart, then why are people dying in custody after they have been shot by Tasers? The people on our team have hypotheses why that's true and we intend to answer that question," Webster said. "Our goal is to save lives."

Animal rights activists say the study, funded by a $500,000 U.S. Department of Justice grant, is cruel and unnecessary. They plan protests on the UW-Madison campus starting this week.

"Shocking more pigs is only going to add their numbers to the Taser-related death statistics," Patti Gilman, whose brother died after being shot with a Taser in British Columbia in June 2004, wrote in a letter to the school. "Robert's death never should have happened. And neither should these experiments."

In a letter to PETA this month, UW-Madison Chancellor John Wiley said the study could have a significant impact on the use of stun guns. He said researchers have no other alternative than to use pigs, whose hearts are more like humans than any other species.

In Wisconsin, the state Department of Justice convened an advisory committee to create guidelines for police training and use of Tasers. On Tuesday, the committee is scheduled to hold its first public hearing in Stevens Point, where Webster will be among four presenters.

Webster said his research could lead to advice for how police should use the devices, standards for how powerful stun guns can be, and instructions for emergency room physicians on how to treat those who have been shocked.

Webster suggested some of the Taser-related deaths were from a rare condition known as malignant hyperthermia, in which bodies essentially overheat. He will test that theory on swine that have been specially bred to have the condition.

Other suspects may have died if potassium that is released into the blood stream after muscle contractions caused by a Taser shock reached the heart, Webster said. Cocaine use might be another factor, he said.

Webster's research is the first independent look at how Tasers affect pigs' hearts. Research published in January sponsored by Taser International, the Scottsdale, Ariz.-based maker of the devices, found that 15 times the charge from ordinary stun guns was needed to electrocute the heart of even the smallest pigs studied.

Taser said Webster is well-qualified to study the devices, which it says are safe. The company says Tasers are being used by more than 7,000 law enforcement, military and correctional agencies in the world.

"We welcome Professor Webster's research as it can provide continued independent research concerning the safety of our life-saving Taser technology," said company spokesman Steve Tuttle.

Taser research on animals dates to 1989, involving dogs, bulls and pigs, but Webster's study is the only known such research now under way, according to PETA.

While all the pigs will be filled with anesthesia, they will be euthanized after the experiments, said Webster, who predicted about 30 pigs would be used. The research could create a computer model that would eliminate the need for more animal testing, he said.

"I think this is an outstanding example of one of those questions that can only be answered using animals," said Eric Sandgren, a UW-Madison professor who heads a committee that oversees animal research. "Boy, there's been a lot of deaths from this. If the alternative is to go back to using bullets, let's find out how to make this safe."

That's a worthy goal, but researchers should instead study humans who have survived Taser shocks and autopsy reports of those who died, said Laura Yanne of PETA. She promised an "unprecedented" protest on Tuesday, but would not release details.

"Subjecting pigs to cruel experiments is not the way to go on this. It's so obvious," she said. "This is a half-million dollar boondoggle."

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On the Net:

Taser International: http://www.taser.com/flash.htm

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: http://www.peta.org


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KEYWORDS: animalrights; animaltesting; bang; leo; nonlethal; peta; pigs; professor; stunguns; tasers; wisconsin
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1 posted on 03/29/2005 4:08:54 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

If one of those PETA terrorists wants to stand in for a pig in the experiments - that's OK by me...


2 posted on 03/29/2005 4:10:00 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Michael Schiavo = Scott Peterson - 1 boat.)
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To: NormsRevenge

(AP Photo/Andy Manis)

John Webster, a biomedical engineering professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, demonstrates Friday, March 25, 2005, where a catheter will placed inside a pig's heart to measure the effects of a Tasers on the heart. Webster wants to test his hypothesis that 70 Taser-related deaths documented in North America since 2001 were the result of heart failure fueled by drugs and other medical factors, not electrocution by the devices. The UW professor was awarded a two-year $500,000 U.S. Department ofJustice grant to study the effects of the stun gun.


3 posted on 03/29/2005 4:10:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I tested my BB gun on a pig when I was 5. I got a thump in the head from my pop which meant he was calling for a moratorium on any new testing.
4 posted on 03/29/2005 4:10:17 PM PST by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Yes lets start a new PETA ad campaign:

Save a Pig, Catch a Taser
only serious activists need apply.

5 posted on 03/29/2005 4:12:30 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: NormsRevenge
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6 posted on 03/29/2005 4:12:49 PM PST by silent_jonny
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To: Keith in Iowa
If one of those PETA terrorists wants to stand in for a pig in the experiments - that's OK by me...

OK here's a plan...
Test the tazers on the PETA people and ship the pigs to Jimmy Dean.
7 posted on 03/29/2005 4:14:48 PM PST by 76834
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To: NormsRevenge

Ouch! But, in an un-related note: I got an email that swears a pig's orgasm lasts about 30 minutes. So, if somehow that shock somehow causes some brain synapses to cross-connect.... never mind.


8 posted on 03/29/2005 4:15:18 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: 76834
>>>Test the tazers on the PETA people and ship the pigs to Jimmy Dean.

Works for me. Sausage. Yum.
9 posted on 03/29/2005 4:16:34 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Michael Schiavo = Scott Peterson - 1 boat.)
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To: theDentist
I got an email that swears a pig's orgasm lasts about 30 minutes

I don't think I could stand hearing her scream someone elses name that long

10 posted on 03/29/2005 4:17:51 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: 76834
"If one of those PETA terrorists wants to stand in for a pig in the experiments - that's OK by me..
OK here's a plan...
Test the tazers on the PETA people and ship the pigs to Jimmy Dean."


I would bet that these sentiments, posted previously, are the same as thousands in your own town, and these are the first posted! I can't add any more.
11 posted on 03/29/2005 4:19:36 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: NormsRevenge

"Well, Ah stunned the summbitch, but Ah'm NOT gonna stick around 'til he wakes up!"

12 posted on 03/29/2005 4:20:05 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: theDentist
I got an email that swears a pig's orgasm lasts about 30 minutes.

Don't pat your self on the back, she's faking it.

13 posted on 03/29/2005 4:20:31 PM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who's going to squeal louder, PETA or the tasered pig? Enquiring minds want to know...


14 posted on 03/29/2005 4:22:28 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: NormsRevenge
PETA =People Eating TASERED Animals
15 posted on 03/29/2005 4:22:46 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: savedbygrace
Don't pat your self on the back, she's faking it.

STOP IT RIGHT NOW....
Just spit all over the keyboard and turned the chair over backwards.
16 posted on 03/29/2005 4:23:29 PM PST by 76834
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To: NormsRevenge

If PETA really cared they would volunteer to take the pigs place. It would make for a better test anyway


17 posted on 03/29/2005 4:24:16 PM PST by foolscap
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To: NormsRevenge

Starving Terri Schiavo is compassionate, but using a stun gun on a pig inhumane. Welcome to the moral depravity of the 21st century.


18 posted on 03/29/2005 4:26:27 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: sure_fine
I don't think I could stand hearing her scream someone elses name that long.

Nor I, but that's the name she remembers when she discovers she's late. :)

19 posted on 03/29/2005 4:28:15 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: savedbygrace
Don't pat yourself on the back, she's faking it.

Good, then the hidden videotape sells for more!

20 posted on 03/29/2005 4:29:23 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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