Dioxin, plastics, microwave dangers, truth or hoax?

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[kralcmot]

What's New Cancer News from Johns Hopkins

No plastics in microwave

No water bottles in freezer

No plastic wrap in microwave

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in their newsletters. This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

Dioxin Carcinogens cause cancer, especially breast cancer. Don't freeze your plastic water bottles with water as this also releases dioxin in the plastic.

Dr. Edward Fujimoto from Castle hospital was on a TV program explaining this health hazard. (He is the manager of the Wellness Program at the hospital.) He was talking about dioxin and how bad they are for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers. This applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the combination of fat, high heat and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body.

Dioxin are carcinogens and highly toxic to the cells of our bodies. Instead, he recommends using glass, Corning Ware, or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc. He said we might remember when some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper.

The dioxin problem is one of the reasons. To add to this, Saran wrap placed over foods as they are nuked, with the high heat, actually drips poisonous toxins into the food, use paper towels.

Pass this on to your family & friends & those that are important in your life.

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and below is site claiming Dioxin not proven to be a toxin:

http://www.ncpa.org/newdpd/dpdarticle.php?article_id=1062&PHPSESSID=fa90650a02b422e075c1827b20a9bac3

THE DIOXIN MYTH

Daily Policy Digest

ENVIRONMENT /

Monday, December 27, 2004

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Dioxin has gained media attention since Ukrainian presidential candidate Viktor Yuschchenko was poisoned with the chemical. Alarmists refer to it as “the most deadly chemical known,” but such is not the case, says Michael Fumento of the Hudson Institute.

Dioxin is a byproduct of certain industrial processes such as incineration and bleaching. Humans carry small amounts of dioxin in their fat and blood, but the myth of “deadly dioxin” began with an experiment with guinea pigs, who were fed 1,000 times as much before they died.

Even though large amounts killed guinea pigs, the facts are:

Yuschchenko carried about 6,000 times as much dioxin as the average person; furthermore, the skin disease brought about by dioxin is a result of direct contact with the skin. Vietnam vets were monitored for high dioxin levels allegedly resulting from exposure to Agent Orange, but the Centers for Disease Control reports that the dioxin levels among Vietnam vets were similar to non-Vietnam vets. The controversial Love Canal area, which was reportedly dioxin-contaminated decades ago, was blamed for various illnesses; but biologist Michael Gough notes that no studies have proven the link, despite clean-up projects that continue to cost U.S. industries. Furthermore, worldwide studies examining the effect of dioxin on exposed workers or townspeople show no evidence that dioxin is a carcinogen (as the International Agency for Research on Cancer calls it).

Viktor Yuschchenko may not look that great for awhile, says Fumento, but he could have had it worse -- such as death by a few drops of strychnine or even a teaspoon of iron.

Source: Michael Fumento, “Viktory Over Alarmism,” Tech Central Station, December 16, 2004.

For text (including links)

http://www.techcentralstation.com/121604C.html

For more on Chemicals and Health Risks

http://eteam.ncpa.org/policy/Regulation_and_Risks/Risks/Chemicals_and_Health_Risks/

[Stormcrow]

"He said we might remember when some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper.

The dioxin problem is one of the reasons."

Considering that fast food restaurants moved away from foam containers because of heavy enviro-whacko pressure complaining that our landfills were about to all be overflowed with those little foam boxes, not because of some dioxin scare, the author completely lost me right there.

[Jeff Chandler]

I LOVE the taste of dioxin. I seek it out, in fact, to the point of removing leftovers from Pyrex dishes and microwaving them in Tupperware.

[KarlInOhio]

I'm going to wrap apples in plastic wrap before microwaving them. I want to see if I'm killed by the dioxin leeching in from the wrap or the cyanide leeching out of the seeds.

Have these people ever figured out that the poison is in the dose. We can detect substances in quantities well under a part per billion. Just because you can detect it doesn't mean that it can hurt you.

Dioxin is a byproduct of certain industrial processes such as incineration and bleaching. Humans carry small amounts of dioxin in their fat and blood, but the myth of “deadly dioxin” began with an experiment with guinea pigs, who were fed 1,000 times as much before they died.

Even though large amounts killed guinea pigs, the facts are:

How many of those guinea pigs were poisoned by the dioxin compared to the number suffering from total structural failure (i.e. they popped) from the amount fed to them? How many more were killed by lab workers accidently dropping bags of dioxin laced guinea pig chow on top of them?

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

H2O is deadly, just try breathing it straight, it kills every time.

[Paleo Conservative]

You need to read this book. It debunks lots of this garbage.

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[kralcmot]

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see my previous post

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