That's no lady, that's a man baby yeeeaaah! lol
Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt
Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.
The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign — like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.
Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.
The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals — regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.
Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.
Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.
Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.
March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code — it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband — and Greer's campaign contributor — relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.
The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.
Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.
Governor Bush doesn't have legal authority to order the Florida National guard to defy a court order.
Dufus statement of the day.
If that is what this is about, then it seems pretty self-destructive. Keyes is not going to get the 2008 nomination by violating Reagan's law--"Never speak ill of a fellow Republican."
Particularly in this case where the attack is purely gratuitous. Bush is not running for anything in 2008.
You'd think Keyes would tell his supporters to attack the folks who caused this mess, ie. the judges. Instead, he's wasting his ammo on Bush. What a bunch of fools. It doesn't give me the comfort that they'd be able to pull off a victory in 2008, certainly.
"I mean AGAIN comparing us to Nazi Germany...more emotion running roughshod over reasoned thinking"
I have been reading about the Nuremburg trials. It is similar. I'm NOT calling anyone a NAZI. What I am saying is that Judges under NAZI rule were not let go, and they said, "we were just doing are jobs." That defense doesn't work, then or now. If it is wrong, it is wrong and you should not enforce it.
Some would argue, "if I didn't do the job they would just find someone who will, and maybe I can keep some of the worst offenses from happening." That defense was also used at Nuremburg and rejected.
Did you read my whole post, or just the point that you wanted to?
I most clearly stated that after this action by Bush, the 'check' in the system is that the legislature could impeach him if they saw fit to do so.
I'm about 70% sure Keyes isn't running. Having said that, the idea that an 11th commandment overcomes our duty to follow the 6th is absurd and shows too much concern for the party over people.
I hate to ask but what is the WPPFF that you are in ?
Say, did these cyber vigilantes want to take the law into their own hands when a famous rich black athlete and actor walked after killing 2 innocent people? Why didnt the President of the US get involved in that one?
And that's what this is all about. I can't tell you how many freepers have suspected as much. And been pretty disgusted by it. It's classic over-reach.So you aren't going to get what you want on the disabled and you've hurt the pro life movement. Thanks for nothing. I 've seen this happen before with the pro life movement and it's always a step too far, too harshly. It's not pretty.
Check your Freepmail.
It seems that the judge has the power to break his own rules. He said, in effect, "no food and water, period." Then he relented and allowed food and drink for communion.
If he could allow an exception to his own rule in this case, why couldn't he allow children to bring Ms. Schiavo water without getting arrested?
"Germans had no courts, they had a dictatorship. You are being unfair and rediculous."
At least I can spell 'ridiculous' - but seriously, your powers of logic leave me at a inarticulate impasse... do you really believe that "Germans had no courts"?
"Judges come off as King George right now to me."
So? And what are you suggesting by that? Something about President George perhaps? Are you subtly equating the two? Demonstrate some ingenuity and posit a jocular connotation that suggests my sublime 'unfairness'.
People in those offices can do just about anything they want and get away with it - just ask Hitlary...
This is not really about the rule of law - there has been ample violation of it with the judges and lawyers themselves. The first should have recused himself because of client information that he held... it has been a travesty of justice since. You don't think that Jeb knows all this, but refuses to act upon it? The havoc wreaked upon our public education portends ominously on our future!
Thank you. I'm amazed that state sanctioned murder by starvation is so passe to so many people. They must think that the Nazi Party started with a history of thousands of murders not just one with a gradual increase in influence. Amazing that people don't know that yet insult others for not knowing anything about history.
"Doesn't "any person" include politicians?"
Not according to scripture. The magistrate exists under God to "punish evildoers." That is not vigilantism because they have been elected by man and charged by God to maintain the peace.
If I have "made your point" it is only from a secular view, which I am not pushing.
Phoeey. Our system survived the 101st Airborne deployment in Little Rock and it would have survived an intervention in this case. OTOH, maybe it is time to shatter the system.
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