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Governor Bush is Just Following Orders
Renew America ^ | 03/28/2005 | James Attickus Bowden

Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt

Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.

The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign — like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.

Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.

The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals — regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.

Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.

Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.

Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.

March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code — it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband — and Greer's campaign contributor — relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.

The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.

Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: jebbush; jebwashedhishands; pontiuspilate; renewamerica; terrischiavo; truthhurts
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To: Howlin

I think what is being done to Terri Schiavo is nothing short of murder. I shudder to think what may happen to disabled people in the future. I want an out of control activist judiciary reined in post haste. I despise Michael Schiavo and everything he has done to his "wife."

That said, I DO NOT hold President Bush or Governor Jeb Bush responsible for this dreadful travesty of justice and crime against humanity.


121 posted on 03/28/2005 7:42:17 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Jrabbit
Here is a direct link to that Free Republic poll:

Free Republic poll - - Jeb Bush

122 posted on 03/28/2005 7:42:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: Matchett-PI
I listen to Rush every single day, he is right, again.

Laura Ingram is really torn up about this, she sounds like she is having a nervous breakdown at times, she is hurting really bad over this.
123 posted on 03/28/2005 7:42:30 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Brilliant

Huh?


124 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: John Valentine

We the people need to keep our voices present and loud in calls, email, letters and personal presence to make it so.

Without that, the Congress would love for this issue to vanish into the night IMO.

Like illegal immigration, I think this is going to bust wide open. It sure should.


125 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:07 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Borges
Throw in 'Schindler's List'. It's actually shown in high schools nowadays.

I'll go for that although I have yet to see it but from what I've read and know about it, it was powerful. I'd like to round out the list with "The Fatherland" (Der Vaterland) starring Rutger Hauer, based on the alternate history novel of the same name by Robert Harris. Basically Normandy fails, the Germans had time to build an A-Bomb so the war ended with the U.S. to where if we bombed Berlin with an A-Bomb, the Nazis would take out London. World War II was still going on in a low intensity with a "rump USSR" and an 85 year old Joe Stalin. The story was about a US lady reporter going over to Germany to cover the opening of relations between the United States and "Germania" (Greater Germany). The year is 1964 and President Joe Kennedy (the old man) was going to meet Adolph Hitler. They had a big celebration with Hitler's 75th birthday. Well, she stumbles upon a tip that the Jews and many others were killed in a Holocaust and it was covered up and the original leadership was being killed one by one to keep it secret. Rutger Hauer was one of the SS agents ordered to track her and he later becomes sympathetic to her cause. His character was a U-Boat captain during the time of the Holocaust so he wasn't in the SS at the time so he wasn't culpable like the old guard was.

I remember one scene with Hauer's son where the boy was going through an American magazine and saw a handicapped boy with "Coke bottle lens" glasses, a clunky hearing aid, and with crutches and a wheelchair. It was one of those ads about "what happens if you get German measles while you're pregnant." I vaguely remember those too, I think I have one somewhere in an old magazine, I'll be 39 in July. Well, the boy says to Hauer, "why don't they relieve them of their suffering like we do?" i.e. euthanasia. Hauer explained that it isn't the right thing to do by telling a story about an old watchmaker who was crippled, but in other ways was a worthy person who is like an angel who grew wings. That wasa very powerful, yet short piece of the film.

Another interesting twist was a poster of the Beatles in German on a wall when the movie was staring.
126 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:27 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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To: TheForceOfOne
Governor Jeb Bush is not the problem, Michael is.

True, but Gov Bush, the FLA legislature and the FLA courts could have put an end to Schiavo's evil plan. They did not, and in their failure, they have further defined us as a nation that does not value the life of the disabled.

127 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:32 PM PST by HighFlyer
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To: Lancey Howard

That poll shocked me frankly. It is very disappointing.


128 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:41 PM PST by Torie
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To: Judith Anne

It's really sad, isn't it?


129 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:44 PM PST by Howlin (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: TigersEye
If you think it's such a great idea, why aren't you down there breaking the law to save Terry. You expect others to do, yet you don't do it.

When you taunt people to go get arrested before they ask the Executive Officers of the country to act you are directly suggesting vigilante behavior. Don't give me any sorry sophistry about it. It's exactly what you are doing.

What part of "if you think it's such a great idea" don't you understand?

The question remains. You won't answer it.

130 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:52 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: A CA Guy

The autopsy?
Is she dead?
Please let me know and I'll erase the tagline I wrote way back when everybody was sure there was no way the Governor of Florida was going to let this court-aanctioned murder take place.


131 posted on 03/28/2005 7:45:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: WOSG
What would you think of a Governor who took the law into his own hands and went to a prison and killed a known murderer who got off the death sentence?

Let's change your hypo just a little and say the governor lets the appeals process play out and after all appeals are over signs an execution warrant and posts state troopers around the prison and tells the supremes to do something about it.

I would say the governor is doing exactly what he should do to preserve his state's rights under the constitution. Then it would come down to the president. Would he join with the supremes and trample states rights by sending in the troops (Washington and Lincoln did) OR, would he uphold the conswtitution and join with the governor and tell the supremes their judgement didn't comply with the constitution and would not be enforced, as Andrew Jackson did.

132 posted on 03/28/2005 7:45:12 PM PST by Founding Father (Another pearl of wisdom from my imaginary mind.)
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To: Sarcastic1

#8 "Who the heck said that Twit greer had the right to play God?!?!!"
Greer is a swamprat judge on the take...


133 posted on 03/28/2005 7:45:17 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

No truer words have been spoken.


134 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:10 PM PST by FFIGHTER
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To: Cyclopean Squid
Jeb would have been going against not only the courts, but also the Florida legislature. Additionally, weren't there reports that the local police would have enforced Greer's order? In that case, throw in half the executive branch as well.

Look...all of this may be true. I've been a LEADER (executive) just about all my life. We are sometimes called upon to do what's right at tremendous personal risk. And there's never been a life or death situation, thank goodness.

That's what LEADING is all about. The people of Florida entrusted Jeb Bush with their lives. He has failed them. We can bitch and piss and moan for hours on this site, but that's the bottom line.

135 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:25 PM PST by ModernDayCato (The Bush Brothers -- standing for LIFE)
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To: Matchett-PI

Excellent post...most excellent.

Could Bush have gone in after TS? Sure.

The way it was designed to work, Bush would have ordered the Pinellas County Sheriff to 'stand down' and sent in the state police and DCF to get Schiavo.

Then, the Judiciary would have held Bush in 'contempt' of court. The trial ensues.

Then, the legislature would have had the option to try Bush in an impeachment trial if they felt it warranted.

The way it played out however, is quite different. In fact, if Bush really wanted to go get TS out and did not due to the orders of the Judicial Branch, then he stands to lose most of the power of his office which unbalances the 'co-equal' organization plan of the designers of the government system.

Now, all is not lost....yet.

Greer and other complicit individuals in the judiciary, after this is over (or now for that matter), should be held accountable for ignoring federal subpoenas and if the US Congress believes the federal judges ignored their legislation they should be held accountable for this also.

Checks and balances is fine, as long as everyone involved protects their turf.


136 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:28 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: Sola Veritas

correct......and not laws voted on by a democratic process but by a tyranical dictatorship......all voting was moot the minute Hitler was Chancelor......seems a bit extreme to again.....I mean AGAIN comparing us to Nazi Germany...more emotion running roughshod over reasoned thinking


137 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:32 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Torie
That poll shocked me frankly. It is very disappointing.

I agree.

138 posted on 03/28/2005 7:47:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: Lancey Howard

There will be an autopsy because the adulterizing husband agreed to it, so when she passes, there will be one.


139 posted on 03/28/2005 7:47:41 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Peach
Your comments are SO RIGHT, Peach.

This insanity in the name of LIFE is going to set us back 20 years.

That's why the DU'ers are so anxious to get in here and make things worse. It makes all of us who are ardently pro-life look like wild eyed maniacal anarchists.

We really need to be in fervent prayer that this settles down soon, or lives will be lost because of this insanity. We will lose the public support we need because of it.

What we need to do now, is calmly work to change the LAWS that allowed this to happen. We have almost four years under a strong pro-life President, and if these people are serious, he will lose their support because he didn't bring in the National Guard to storm the hospice, and we will lose precious ground we have gained over the past four years.

This is sheer insanity!

140 posted on 03/28/2005 7:48:16 PM PST by ohioWfan (Those of us who were created are brighter than those who evolved think we are...)
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