Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt
Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.
The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.
Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.
The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.
Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.
Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.
Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.
March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband and Greer's campaign contributor relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.
The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.
Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.
I think what is being done to Terri Schiavo is nothing short of murder. I shudder to think what may happen to disabled people in the future. I want an out of control activist judiciary reined in post haste. I despise Michael Schiavo and everything he has done to his "wife."
That said, I DO NOT hold President Bush or Governor Jeb Bush responsible for this dreadful travesty of justice and crime against humanity.
Huh?
We the people need to keep our voices present and loud in calls, email, letters and personal presence to make it so.
Without that, the Congress would love for this issue to vanish into the night IMO.
Like illegal immigration, I think this is going to bust wide open. It sure should.
True, but Gov Bush, the FLA legislature and the FLA courts could have put an end to Schiavo's evil plan. They did not, and in their failure, they have further defined us as a nation that does not value the life of the disabled.
That poll shocked me frankly. It is very disappointing.
It's really sad, isn't it?
When you taunt people to go get arrested before they ask the Executive Officers of the country to act you are directly suggesting vigilante behavior. Don't give me any sorry sophistry about it. It's exactly what you are doing.
What part of "if you think it's such a great idea" don't you understand?
The question remains. You won't answer it.
The autopsy?
Is she dead?
Please let me know and I'll erase the tagline I wrote way back when everybody was sure there was no way the Governor of Florida was going to let this court-aanctioned murder take place.
Let's change your hypo just a little and say the governor lets the appeals process play out and after all appeals are over signs an execution warrant and posts state troopers around the prison and tells the supremes to do something about it.
I would say the governor is doing exactly what he should do to preserve his state's rights under the constitution. Then it would come down to the president. Would he join with the supremes and trample states rights by sending in the troops (Washington and Lincoln did) OR, would he uphold the conswtitution and join with the governor and tell the supremes their judgement didn't comply with the constitution and would not be enforced, as Andrew Jackson did.
#8 "Who the heck said that Twit greer had the right to play God?!?!!"
Greer is a swamprat judge on the take...
No truer words have been spoken.
Look...all of this may be true. I've been a LEADER (executive) just about all my life. We are sometimes called upon to do what's right at tremendous personal risk. And there's never been a life or death situation, thank goodness.
That's what LEADING is all about. The people of Florida entrusted Jeb Bush with their lives. He has failed them. We can bitch and piss and moan for hours on this site, but that's the bottom line.
Excellent post...most excellent.
Could Bush have gone in after TS? Sure.
The way it was designed to work, Bush would have ordered the Pinellas County Sheriff to 'stand down' and sent in the state police and DCF to get Schiavo.
Then, the Judiciary would have held Bush in 'contempt' of court. The trial ensues.
Then, the legislature would have had the option to try Bush in an impeachment trial if they felt it warranted.
The way it played out however, is quite different. In fact, if Bush really wanted to go get TS out and did not due to the orders of the Judicial Branch, then he stands to lose most of the power of his office which unbalances the 'co-equal' organization plan of the designers of the government system.
Now, all is not lost....yet.
Greer and other complicit individuals in the judiciary, after this is over (or now for that matter), should be held accountable for ignoring federal subpoenas and if the US Congress believes the federal judges ignored their legislation they should be held accountable for this also.
Checks and balances is fine, as long as everyone involved protects their turf.
correct......and not laws voted on by a democratic process but by a tyranical dictatorship......all voting was moot the minute Hitler was Chancelor......seems a bit extreme to again.....I mean AGAIN comparing us to Nazi Germany...more emotion running roughshod over reasoned thinking
I agree.
There will be an autopsy because the adulterizing husband agreed to it, so when she passes, there will be one.
This insanity in the name of LIFE is going to set us back 20 years.
That's why the DU'ers are so anxious to get in here and make things worse. It makes all of us who are ardently pro-life look like wild eyed maniacal anarchists.
We really need to be in fervent prayer that this settles down soon, or lives will be lost because of this insanity. We will lose the public support we need because of it.
What we need to do now, is calmly work to change the LAWS that allowed this to happen. We have almost four years under a strong pro-life President, and if these people are serious, he will lose their support because he didn't bring in the National Guard to storm the hospice, and we will lose precious ground we have gained over the past four years.
This is sheer insanity!
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