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Schiavo protesters at hospice add grief for other families (might tick you off as well)
Associated Press ^ | Mar. 28, 2005 | JILL BARTON

Posted on 03/28/2005 6:41:56 PM PST by Former Military Chick

PINELLAS PARK - Jennifer Johnson, barefoot and in her pajamas, ran to her grandfather's bedside once a hospice worker said his death was moments away.

She got there - one minute too late.

Johnson said the chaos surrounding the hospice where Terri Schiavo lies dying kept her from saying goodbye. When Johnson arrived, a police officer demanded identification; she had none. And after a hospice employee cleared her, another officer halted her for a metal-detecting search.

The delays lasted three to four minutes - the last minutes of her grandfather's life.

"It's a terrible, extra obstacle to put in front of a family. . . . Everything is about Schiavo," Johnson said. "It's all about her and in my family's case, it cost us dearly."

Woodside Hospice has 70 patients in addition to Schiavo, whose parents have been desperately trying to have her feeding tube reinserted. Dozens of protesters have arrived from around the nation since the tube was removed March 18; at least 22 have been arrested, prompting a police barricade around the facility and unprecedented security measures.

Family members visiting patients must pass through a police checkpoint to park, then show identification outside the door before another security screening inside. They also must walk by scores of signs decrying Schiavo's "crucifixion," "torture" and "starvation," plus navigate around hordes of media who have been camped outside the facility.

"To have to maneuver through all of this and have a hostile environment outside when all they want is peace and quiet and to enjoy those few days they have left with a loved one is a horror," said Dr. Morton Getz, executive director of Douglas Gardens Hospice in Miami.

Getz said many people with a family member in a hospice have to make the same excruciating decision that courts have made for Schiavo.

"It's causing a lot of grief and questions in their own mind on whether they did the right thing," he said. "It's unconscionable to have a family member to be near the end stages of life and to get there, you have to walk through signs that say, 'Murderer.' "

Most protesters direct their signs and their chants against the courts and Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband who insists she would not want to be kept alive artificially. But walking through a hostile environment can only add stress to what's already an emotionally draining situation.

"It probably has the same psychological effect on the residents' families as it does on someone who is walking into an abortion clinic and facing signs and aggressive behavior," said Elizabeth Foley, a Florida International University law professor who specializes in bioethics. "And unfortunately, that is the price you have to pay in a free society."

Over the past few days, as Schiavo's parents' attempts to have their daughter's feeding tube reinserted repeatedly failed, signs outside the hospice have grown more desperate. Messages compare Michael Schiavo to the likes of Scott Peterson, convicted of killing his wife and unborn child in California, and John Evander Couey, who has been arrested on charges of kidnapping and murdering a 9-year-old girl in Homosassa.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hospice; jenniferjohnson; schiavo; terrischiavo; woodsidehospice
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To: jigsaw

sorry.......a poor choice of words that I didn't even think about.....hope it does not offend


61 posted on 03/28/2005 7:14:18 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Former Military Chick
Johnson said the chaos surrounding the hospice where Terri Schiavo lies dying kept her from saying goodbye.

CALLING ALL LAWYERS!!!!!
Another lawsuit, for sure.
Litigation Nation.

62 posted on 03/28/2005 7:14:20 PM PST by XR7
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To: mjtobias
Had the police and not been in front of the hospice, this woman would have been able to visit her relative.

You know why the cops are there, right?

They've been reading Free Republic.

63 posted on 03/28/2005 7:14:39 PM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: Former Military Chick

Terri Schiavo Before dehydration

God Bless you Terri in your hour of death

Let everyone who said your beautiful smile was fake be haunted by it for the rest of their days.

64 posted on 03/28/2005 7:14:55 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: mjtobias

Certainly glad you have access to my mind. :)


65 posted on 03/28/2005 7:15:04 PM PST by Former Military Chick ((I'm in the WPPFF.))
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To: Former Military Chick

Yes, I have noticed the acrimony between people who usually don't disagree. I have only been here since 2004 but I've never seen FR threads like this before. It makes my band of merry infidels and our diatribe against the shills for CAIR look almost amicable.


66 posted on 03/28/2005 7:15:09 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I understand why someone would be upset, but it is misplaced anger. It is not the protestors who are the problem here.

Instead, she should be angry that a corrupt judge has sentenced a disabled woman to death by starvation.

Echo my agreement to your comments above ...

67 posted on 03/28/2005 7:15:21 PM PST by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to quit with the "Amnesty" and protect our borders.)
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To: mjtobias

let me guess.....you think she is pro death or maybe a Nazi?..that is all I've heard over the weekend.....in fact, I've heard more insults, name calling, hysteria and rampant anarchistic thoughts from "Christians" than ever in my whole life.......when Dems and liberal activist do this crap, we scorn them.....when we do it, well I guess we are morally superior????????.........


68 posted on 03/28/2005 7:17:12 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Former Military Chick
Seems to me, it's usually the left doing all the protesting and anything else that happens is just "collateral damage."

Anyone else remember Reginald Denny? Even after catching those that smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher, they were acquitted because they were upset at the time.

I don't recall riots over that acquittal.

Protesting is an American right, is it not? Isn't that what the left always says?
69 posted on 03/28/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: Former Military Chick

I agree with you. I posted before that the protestors were out of line! A quiet, candle vigil praying would have been fine...and a gracious compassion to let the other families have easy access. The protestors' behaviors in many cases was downright self centered.


70 posted on 03/28/2005 7:17:29 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Conservative & Rational..what a concept!)
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To: tallhappy
Wouldn't want to ever hurt the feelings of anyone advocating starving a helpless woman to death

This pastiche of semi-lucid gibberish stands on its own, reeking of innuendo and it's author, and needs no further commentary from me.

71 posted on 03/28/2005 7:17:54 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: tallhappy; A Jovial Cad
Yeah, you DU moonbat, learn some manners and stop being rude to people.

(Do I need to point out the irony?)
72 posted on 03/28/2005 7:18:10 PM PST by kenth
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To: Former Military Chick
There is also an elementary school close to the hospice that has had to close down during this gathering. Her parents are asking everyone to please go home- they are refusing. The disrespect for others who are in the hospice, and their families shows narcissism beyond the pale. Do these people REALLY believe that holding up a sign is the best way to convince anyone to do different? I believe that they may have convinced themselves that standing there is doing some good, but I cannot imagine what it is. It reminds me of people who just want to be a part of something- even if it is a train-wreck.
73 posted on 03/28/2005 7:18:50 PM PST by ThinkingMan
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To: Former Military Chick

Welcome to America. Protesting is legal.

Also, the metal detectors had nothing to do with the people outside the building. They did not make the decisions for others to require metal detectors.


74 posted on 03/28/2005 7:18:57 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Not at the expense of others who are in a similar situation, this responsibility falls on the protestors.


75 posted on 03/28/2005 7:19:54 PM PST by honest2God
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To: kenth
The irony was deliberate, in the event you hadn't noticed...
76 posted on 03/28/2005 7:19:56 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: Former Military Chick

FMC.....see my post #68.....some here really need to brush up on our military history....to compare this to Nazi Germany is emotional ranting bordering on hysteria....seems like those victims didn't have a day in court and the vile and tyrannical SS and Gestapo make this issue look like a Sunday School picnic......keep posting....we know your true intentions are honorable though some here have huge emotional blinders on


77 posted on 03/28/2005 7:20:35 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: al_again
Are the families that don't insist on feeding tubes murdering their lived ones

Your background is not accurate, and the answer is yes.

Most die from pneumonia. By the time the feeding tubes go in they are in a very weakened state already.

The analogy to Terri Schindler is weak. Very different circumstances.

Still, the issue is do we face up that we commit euthanasia or not?

If so, just do a lethal injection.

78 posted on 03/28/2005 7:21:09 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: It's me

It is odd, isn't it..


79 posted on 03/28/2005 7:21:20 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: I still care

"You are only supposed to be in a hospice if your death is imminent in the next 6 months."

Each hospice defines the criteria for admission. Normally that criteria is flexible.

"George Felos, a death lawyer, is on the board."

No, George Felos WAS a board member. Get your facts straight.


80 posted on 03/28/2005 7:21:45 PM PST by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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