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Rev. Schuller vs. Abrams Report: His Finest Hour! Against Michael Schiavo, and For Self-Giving Love
MSNBC TV Abrams Report | 3/28/05 | gentlestrength

Posted on 03/28/2005 4:34:13 PM PST by gentlestrength

Liberal Abrams Report started a piece today saying, "Is it time to give parents rights over spouse rights? I say no way."

An older and weaker looking Rev. Robert Schuller sat there via distance camera, looking very somber. "I think you've asked the wrong question."

Abrams scoffed, and smileless Schuller answered, "We have to be intelligent. We don't make an arbitarary statements [like you just did] without qualifictions. We don't just say yes this way or no that way,[as you are doing]; that's not intelligent."

Abrams changed the subject, starting about Terri's husband, and Schuller interrupted: "I can't understand why Michael Schiavo still calls himself a 'husband.' He has been with another woman since 1996 with two children. I do not think he has the love."

Abrams got miffed. Schuller sternly and quickly replied to him, "I did not ask to be on your program. You called me." Abrahms glibly agreed, claiming Schuller's opinion was important and that is why he asked him on.

Schuller continued somberly, "There are three kinds of love: Self-centered, which says 'I love you because I want you.' There is Self-serving love which says 'I love you because I need you.' And then there is self-giving love which says 'I love you because you need me.' We hope that the laws [in our country] will allow people to be receptive to self-giving love. "You can't just say that 'because this is the spouse...' I think you asked the wrong question, framing it as parents over spouse."

Schuller was calmly heated. With seeming great sincerity and anger, Schuller said, "I have never written ANYTHING more important in ALL my books than THIS chapter [about the need for self-giving love]." [Emphasis his].

At which point you hear laughs from Abrams, who attackingly says, "What you're saying now might this fall under self- serving love," gleefully insisting that nothing Schuller was saying could be true, since Schuller wrote it in book and gets money for the book.

They showed a graphic of Schuller's book, "Don't Throw Away Tomorrow," with Schuller's calling out angrily in frustration saying that with what is happening in the Schiavo case, "We are throwing away our future!" and "This is exactly what is happening!"

Abrams quickly closed with "I love my parents, but would never want them to have the final say over my spouse."


TOPICS: US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abramsreport; husband; michaelschiavo; schiavo; schuller; terrischiavo
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To: syriacus

For the few minutes he was speaking, that is!


141 posted on 03/29/2005 3:20:16 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: syriacus

Wonderful visual.


142 posted on 03/29/2005 3:21:56 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: syriacus

"When he decided to crawl into bed with a woman not his wife, he did forfeit any right to decide her life.
Schiavo had already had an affair by the time he was suing for malpractice.

Which means he might have been lying under oath when he testified, during the malpractice trial, that he believed in his marriage vows. (Caveat: Perhaps at the moment Michael testified, he had decided to try to be true)"

We know of the woman in mid-1991. Then there's the restraining/stalking order thing, which may be tied to the next one, or, maybe not. Then, there's the present one. These are the ones we know of, and don't count one night stands or other 'thank you, ma'ams.' Ole' boys can say that well, he was in his mid-twenties.

I'm sure every woman wants to run out and fall all over him......but not under.


143 posted on 03/29/2005 3:23:31 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: combat_boots

/sarc.


144 posted on 03/29/2005 3:28:44 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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The next time I saw him interviewed later in the week, he had his old smirk, was giving some 'positive' type answer, so I just switched off. I was disappointed. But it's hard to be a consistent voice for truth. Nobody likes you, and he wouldn't want that.


145 posted on 04/10/2005 11:08:18 PM PDT by gentlestrength
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