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Schiavo case sparks sympathy, scorn among Dutch
AlertNet.org ^ | 28 Mar 2005 14:32:01 GMT | By Karl Emerick Hanuska

Posted on 03/28/2005 7:34:03 AM PST by Calpernia

AMSTERDAM, March 28 (Reuters) - The fight in the United States over the life of the severely brain damaged women Terri Schiavo has sparked intense interest in the Netherlands where euthanasia has been legal for three decades.

The case that has pitted the woman's husband against her parents has repeatedly been on the front of Dutch newspapers in recent weeks and is leading television news bulletins.

Everyone seems to have an opinion on the case and most people stopped in the streets of Amsterdam on Monday seemed to support Schiavo's husband's right to choose to end her life.

Before 1973 euthanasia was a crime in the Netherlands, known for its liberal attitudes on issues such as prostitution and drugs. That year a doctor was arrested and tried for killing her terminally ill mother with morphine.

The court gave her a suspended sentence of one week in jail and a year's probation, setting a precedent that led courts to establish guidelines for when it was permissible for physicians to assist a patient in committing suicide.

"This isn't something we are proud of as Dutch people, but how can we as healthy people tell someone that they don't have the right to end a life that can only bring more suffering," said Amsterdam schoolteacher Claudia Ruisbroek.

"I feel so sorry for the parents of Terri Schiavo, but if the doctors say there is no way to bring her out of the state she is in, then it is selfishness to fight to keep her alive."

EUTHANASIA CASES

The precise number of euthanasia cases is hard to determine as not all doctors report them, but the government estimates that there are several thousand per year -- including dozens of terminally ill or severely handicapped newborn babies.

According to the Catholic Educator's Resource Centre, Dutch doctors assist about 3,600 people per year to commit suicide.

In 1984, the Royal Society of Medicine issued "rules of careful conduct" for euthanasia. They call for a doctor to inform a patient of his condition, consult relatives if the patient allows, and consult at least one other physician.

In the case of a child, a doctor must obtain the consent of the parents or legal guardians.

Schiavo's husband and parents have battled for years over whether the 41-year-old woman wanted to live or die. U.S. courts have repeatedly upheld that her husband has the right to make the choice for her.

Some people interviewed on the streets of the Dutch capital found it ironic that the case of Schiavo, who doctors say is in an irreversible vegetative state, has raised such a furore in the United States given that the death penalty is legal there.

"If people are arguing that life is so sacred and that is why hers must be preserved, then how can they practise the death penalty?" said city employee Joep Hinton.

Utrecht resident Rudolph Strickwold said the issue was one of freedom: "I might not agree, but Mrs. Schiavo's husband has made what can't be an easy choice for him.

"I think people should have to respect it. He should have the freedom to make that choice for his wife."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; euthanasia; hemlocksociety; netherlands; pdia; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 03/28/2005 7:34:03 AM PST by Calpernia
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To: Calpernia
Needs emphasis!

Before 1973 euthanasia was a crime in the Netherlands, known for its liberal attitudes on issues such as prostitution and drugs. That year a doctor was arrested and tried for killing her terminally ill mother with morphine.

The court gave her a suspended sentence of one week in jail and a year's probation, setting a precedent that led courts to establish guidelines for when it was permissible for physicians to assist a patient in committing suicide.

2 posted on 03/28/2005 7:35:32 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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They're the ones that make the pretzels and wear wooden shoes, right?

They're cute.

3 posted on 03/28/2005 7:42:47 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Calpernia

Interesting. I mentioned to my wife just this morning that the Left will not be happy until we become morally decayed like Netherlands. It's a sinking ship which their middle class is now leaving in droves.

Democracy without morality is impossible. The US is likewise signing its own death warrant.


4 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:29 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: Calpernia

bump


5 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:50 AM PST by Lady Eileen (Where there is Life there is Hope -- TERRI.)
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To: dead
They're the ones that make the pretzels and wear wooden shoes, right? They're cute.

Maybe in the past, but nowadays they are increasingly the ones that wear burkas and stab to death those who question them.

More Dutch leaving homeland behind

6 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:50 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Calpernia
And I think we see what has given the Netherlands the admired, strong, vital, influential position she holds in world power today.

The most important thing the Netherlands has been in the last century is an off-ramp for the Nazis.

7 posted on 03/28/2005 7:46:55 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Calpernia
Some people interviewed on the streets of the Dutch capital found it ironic that the case of Schiavo, who doctors say is in an irreversible vegetative state, has raised such a furore in the United States given that the death penalty is legal there.

No doubt, it is very confusing to people who are moral relativists.

It makes perfect sense if one subscribes to moral absolutes. Most of the Dutch don't.

8 posted on 03/28/2005 7:47:09 AM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: Calpernia
The Terry Schiavo case shows that the courts have ruled that women are legal chattel of their husbands. That the wish of the husband, that his sole testimony, is the main factor in deciding if his wife should live or die.

I heard this fact trumpeted on a liberal talk show yesterday. "The husband should have priority! He's her husband, after all!"

It was illegal in Old Testament Jewish society to put a person to death on the testimony of just one witness. (There had to be more than one witness...I forget the details...but this law has been held up as being a very humane law, to ensure that one person with an agenda could not bring about the conviction and death of an innocent person. The rabbis insisted on solid proof...a standard that is sadly lacking in the Terry Schiavo case.)

9 posted on 03/28/2005 7:48:27 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: dead

LOL!

and windmills


10 posted on 03/28/2005 7:50:12 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: atomicpossum

"Hans Brinker" bump. (/sarcasm off)


11 posted on 03/28/2005 7:50:42 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: Calpernia

What are the Dutch known for? The kid that stuck his thumb in the dike.


12 posted on 03/28/2005 7:51:46 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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Yes, and the kid that gave a dyke the finger.


13 posted on 03/28/2005 7:53:56 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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"If people are arguing that life is so sacred and that is why hers must be preserved, then how can they practise the death penalty?" said city employee Joep Hinton.

This is how far humanity has sunk. That they would equate the life of a heinous murderer with the life of an innocent woman means they have lost the ability to discern.

14 posted on 03/28/2005 7:54:42 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Calpernia

Don't forget the tulips, canals and Rembrandt.


15 posted on 03/28/2005 7:55:20 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Ciexyz
"What are the Dutch known for?"
How about the development of commercial capitalism a bit earlier than England? But it's ancient history.
17 posted on 03/28/2005 7:58:30 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Calpernia

Interesting parallels between Terri, the EU, feeding tubes and the American military.


18 posted on 03/28/2005 7:59:15 AM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: Calpernia

Well, I will no longer feel sorry for the Dutch when the Jihadis rape their pets and eat their children, which is definitely their future.


19 posted on 03/28/2005 8:00:25 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Utrecht resident Rudolph Strickwold said the issue was one of freedom: "I might not agree, but Mrs. Peterson's husband has made what can't be an easy choice for him.

"I think people should have to respect it. He should have the freedom to make that choice for his wife."

Freedom to murder your dependents -- a right now guarenteed by the US Supreme Court, and a right now protected by Police and Executive!

20 posted on 03/28/2005 8:02:06 AM PST by bvw
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