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Citizenship row divides Latvia
BBC News ^ | 25 March, 2005 | Angus Roxburgh

Posted on 03/27/2005 10:41:36 PM PST by jb6

In a park in the Latvian capital Riga, a small group of protesters gathers, all Russian, some wearing paper hats inscribed with the word "Alien". Latvian police carry out a small, bureaucratic piece of harassment. With a tape, and much officiousness, they measure the distance between the demonstrators and the nearest public building, a school on the other side of the road.

The protest is two metres too close, so the police move it a little further down the path.

The protesters don't mind. They are there to object to a much greater injustice.

More than 450,000 Russians and native Russian-speakers - out of a total Latvian population of 2.3m - are classed as "non-citizens" because they have failed (or refused) to take a test in Latvian language and history, which would allow them to have citizenship.

This was local election day, and they were protesting about the fact that as "aliens", despite having lived in Latvia all their lives, they had no right to take part in the elections - whereas citizens of other EU countries could vote if they had lived there for a mere six months.

"I was born here," said one young man. "I pay the same taxes as Latvians. Yet I'm not allowed to vote for the politicians who spend those taxes."

"I'm here to protest against the government's policy of dividing society along ethnic lines," said another.

The fate of the non-citizens - who account for 20% of the entire population of Latvia - is a complex one.

Soviet migrants

When Latvia gained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, it granted automatic citizenship to those who had lived in the first independent Latvian state - between 1918 and 1940 - but not to those who immigrated here after the war, when Latvia was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Latvia suffered hugely under Soviet rule.

Thousands were arrested and sent to Siberian labour camps, or executed, during the Stalin years.

MEP Tatjana Zdanoka uses her position to highlight the issue Later, hundreds of thousands of Russians, Belarussians and Ukrainians flooded into the republic under a deliberate policy of Russification. The Latvian language was squeezed out of official use.

Latvians were resentful citizens of the USSR. By 1991, they comprised only half of the population of their own country, while in Riga only a third were Latvian.

Even today, Russian is heard as commonly as Latvian on the streets of Riga.

But the government is determined to revive the Latvian identity. It says its policy towards Russians who immigrated here during the Soviet period is aimed not at punishing them for the sins of the Soviet regime (as some suspect) but at ensuring that they learn Latvian and integrate fully into society.

In order to naturalise, Russians must take a test in Latvian, and pass an exam about Latvian history - in which they must "correctly" answer that the country was occupied and colonised, not liberated, by the Soviet Union in 1945.

Many of the Russians at the demonstration on election day said they found that psychologically difficult. They said they wanted to integrate (and many could speak Latvian), but they found the idea of applying for citizenship humiliating.

"I lived here - same as them - and I was a citizen of the USSR," said a middle-aged woman. "They deprived me of my citizenship, and now I must apply to become one! I just won't do it."

Separate, but together

Tatjana Zdanoka is Latvia's only Russian member of the European Parliament and uses her position to publicise the position of the Russian minority.

She says her mother, who has lived in Latvia for 60 years and worked here for 45 years as a schoolteacher, has no right to vote.

"She is 83 and has bad eyes. Of course she's not capable of taking any kind of exam."

Facts about Latvia Latvia was independent from 1918 to 1939 After World War II it was a part of the USSR It regained independence in 1991 700,000 Soviet-time migrants and their children became non-citizens By the time Latvia joined the EU in 2004, this figure had dropped to around 450,000 Latvia's total population is 2,3m (including non-citizens)

Igor Vatolin, a journalist on the newspaper Chas and a Russian rights activist, said the Latvian Popular Front, which led the fight for independence at the end of the 1980s, promised citizenship to everyone living in the republic.

"But they reneged on that - even though thousands of Russians voted with them in favour of independence in the referendum of 1991," he said.

There is no ethnic strife in the streets of Latvia. The two peoples live peacefully together. But politicians on both sides, and in Russia itself, stir things up.

Moscow rarely misses a chance to complain at international meetings of Latvia's "human rights abuses", while the head of the Latvian parliament's foreign affairs committee, Aleksandrs Kirsteins, has described the non-citizens as "civilian occupiers".

He called for an agreement with the Russian government under which all the unwanted foreigners would be herded on to trains and shipped back to their "ethnic homeland" - with a brass band playing on the platform to see them off.

Latvia's two communities deserve credit for by and large ignoring such provocative statements. Despite the bitterness and insecurity on both sides, they have succeeded in forging a peaceful co-existence - somewhat separate, but together.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigotry; latvia; racism; russia; sameoldsameold
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You never did answer the question, typical really, do you support Mugabi's cultural purification and land grab?


241 posted on 03/29/2005 12:30:40 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: 1rudeboy
then it cannot be that much of a burden to LEARN THE DARN LANGUAGE

They know the language. They were born there. Most of them, anyway, except really old and sick people. They just find it outrageous that they should ask for the citizenship of the country they were born in, while their neighbors shouldn't only because of their parents' ethnicity. This is what is called racism, and they are right because by not complying they disagree to support racism.
242 posted on 03/29/2005 12:31:00 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The war is over and the former owners of the land will just have to deal with the brave and patriotic war veterans in a realistic way, right?

They're only following your philosophy of purifying their culture which was degraded by British colonials who did steal their tribal lands, regardless of what they did with them. Or does your philosophy only apply to the untermensch slavs, particularly Russians?

243 posted on 03/29/2005 12:33:01 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Fortunately nor I neither Latvians don't need your advices how to build "a free society", boy.

I beg to differ. You seem to be still showing a Soviet mentality when it comes to dealing with the rights of minorities.

244 posted on 03/29/2005 12:33:50 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He's the President, Founder and Sole Member of the Vladmir Putin Fan Club, USA branch. Anything "Dreamy Vlad" does is subject to less scrutiny and more praise in his eyes than anyone else.

Regards, Ivan


245 posted on 03/29/2005 12:33:53 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Modernman

I do not respect the sovereignty of Zimbabwe because of the criminal regime.


246 posted on 03/29/2005 12:34:17 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Modernman

Really? Never knew that, but it explains a lot.


247 posted on 03/29/2005 12:34:36 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: MadIvan
They have to accept American laws and speak passable English, for which they are tested in schools. The Russian refusal to take Latvian tests is telling.

If they are born in America, depending on the county/municipality they really don't have to speak much english. Many Cajuns speak no english, shall we kick them out? That is not American. Indians are also not required to learn English.

248 posted on 03/29/2005 12:35:53 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You must support the communist expropriators of land in Zimbabwe as you do those in the former Soviet Union.

Actually you are the one supporting the communist expropriators, because the people who are losing their land were not the original occupiers of the country even though most were born in Zimbabwe. Mugabe is a communist...your pal.
249 posted on 03/29/2005 12:36:04 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I do not respect the sovereignty of Zimbabwe because of the criminal regime.

So your principles only extend to nations you like. Not surprising.

250 posted on 03/29/2005 12:36:06 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: free_european

No kidding, there are parades glorifying the Soviet Communist Red Army all the time in Putin's Russia.


251 posted on 03/29/2005 12:36:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When the Mexicans and Indians have the power to take back Texas and California, then I'm sure they'll do as they please.

Well, I have been pretty sure that you would say so. I disagree that everything should be about power. I refuse to accept the view that Soviet Union did wrong by not exterminating all Latvians when it had power to do so. Sorry.
252 posted on 03/29/2005 12:37:06 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I am for undoing what he did and returning what he stole to it's rightful owners.

Which rightful owners, and it should be returned, but to which? The English imperial colonists or the natives who owned that land for thousands of years first?

253 posted on 03/29/2005 12:37:09 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Modernman; GarySpFc
That's because Chechins aren't human, they're untermenschen, don't you know? Just listen to the racebaiting hatemonger jb6, he will tell you.

Really? Prove it. Prove one statement I made to that effect. I'll be waiting along with Modernman for your proof. Lieing and libel is your second nature.

254 posted on 03/29/2005 12:38:16 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Modernman

Yep. I support freedom for Latvians to require citizenship tests but not freedom for Zimbabweans to rape and murder and steal. I'm such a hypocrite.


255 posted on 03/29/2005 12:38:54 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: jb6

I cannot believe you want to compare the Cajuns to the Russians in Latvia. Let's put it in some context, shall we? 1, the Cajuns are indeed more required to speak English than the Russians in Latvia were required to speak Latvian, at least until the fall of the Soviet Union. 2, the history is entirely different - the Cajuns settled in Louisiana, the Russians were bussed in by Stalin to obliterate Latvia as a nation. 3, the Cajuns do not set up a "Cajun Political Party" to skew Louisiana's politics to their interests - they either become Republicans or Democrats.

If you want to make stupid analogies, do try to get one that does come closer to the mark.

Ivan


256 posted on 03/29/2005 12:41:07 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Yep. I support freedom for Latvians to require citizenship tests but not freedom for Zimbabweans to rape and murder and steal. I'm such a hypocrite.

The Zimbabweans are just working to preserve their culture from foreign imperialists who moved to their country while Zimbabwe was under the yoke of Great Britain. Why shouldn't they have the right to determine who gets to stay in their country?

257 posted on 03/29/2005 12:42:52 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Modernman

As far as I am aware, no-one is seeking to confiscate the land or other property of the ethnic Russians in Latvia. A more correct Zimbabwean parralel would be if an African language, say Shona, was the official language of Zimbabwe and Mugabe had insisted whites learn it.


258 posted on 03/29/2005 12:42:52 PM PST by free_european
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To: free_european
As far as I am aware, no-one is seeking to confiscate the land or other property of the ethnic Russians in Latvia.

No, but Zimbabwe is another case where a government is treating two groups of people differently based on ethnic background.

Am I saying the Latvian government is anything like Mugabe's thugs? Of course not.

259 posted on 03/29/2005 12:45:15 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman

Just like a lefty to morally equate the British empire with the Soviet Union.


260 posted on 03/29/2005 12:46:46 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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