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Citizenship row divides Latvia
BBC News ^ | 25 March, 2005 | Angus Roxburgh

Posted on 03/27/2005 10:41:36 PM PST by jb6

In a park in the Latvian capital Riga, a small group of protesters gathers, all Russian, some wearing paper hats inscribed with the word "Alien". Latvian police carry out a small, bureaucratic piece of harassment. With a tape, and much officiousness, they measure the distance between the demonstrators and the nearest public building, a school on the other side of the road.

The protest is two metres too close, so the police move it a little further down the path.

The protesters don't mind. They are there to object to a much greater injustice.

More than 450,000 Russians and native Russian-speakers - out of a total Latvian population of 2.3m - are classed as "non-citizens" because they have failed (or refused) to take a test in Latvian language and history, which would allow them to have citizenship.

This was local election day, and they were protesting about the fact that as "aliens", despite having lived in Latvia all their lives, they had no right to take part in the elections - whereas citizens of other EU countries could vote if they had lived there for a mere six months.

"I was born here," said one young man. "I pay the same taxes as Latvians. Yet I'm not allowed to vote for the politicians who spend those taxes."

"I'm here to protest against the government's policy of dividing society along ethnic lines," said another.

The fate of the non-citizens - who account for 20% of the entire population of Latvia - is a complex one.

Soviet migrants

When Latvia gained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, it granted automatic citizenship to those who had lived in the first independent Latvian state - between 1918 and 1940 - but not to those who immigrated here after the war, when Latvia was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Latvia suffered hugely under Soviet rule.

Thousands were arrested and sent to Siberian labour camps, or executed, during the Stalin years.

MEP Tatjana Zdanoka uses her position to highlight the issue Later, hundreds of thousands of Russians, Belarussians and Ukrainians flooded into the republic under a deliberate policy of Russification. The Latvian language was squeezed out of official use.

Latvians were resentful citizens of the USSR. By 1991, they comprised only half of the population of their own country, while in Riga only a third were Latvian.

Even today, Russian is heard as commonly as Latvian on the streets of Riga.

But the government is determined to revive the Latvian identity. It says its policy towards Russians who immigrated here during the Soviet period is aimed not at punishing them for the sins of the Soviet regime (as some suspect) but at ensuring that they learn Latvian and integrate fully into society.

In order to naturalise, Russians must take a test in Latvian, and pass an exam about Latvian history - in which they must "correctly" answer that the country was occupied and colonised, not liberated, by the Soviet Union in 1945.

Many of the Russians at the demonstration on election day said they found that psychologically difficult. They said they wanted to integrate (and many could speak Latvian), but they found the idea of applying for citizenship humiliating.

"I lived here - same as them - and I was a citizen of the USSR," said a middle-aged woman. "They deprived me of my citizenship, and now I must apply to become one! I just won't do it."

Separate, but together

Tatjana Zdanoka is Latvia's only Russian member of the European Parliament and uses her position to publicise the position of the Russian minority.

She says her mother, who has lived in Latvia for 60 years and worked here for 45 years as a schoolteacher, has no right to vote.

"She is 83 and has bad eyes. Of course she's not capable of taking any kind of exam."

Facts about Latvia Latvia was independent from 1918 to 1939 After World War II it was a part of the USSR It regained independence in 1991 700,000 Soviet-time migrants and their children became non-citizens By the time Latvia joined the EU in 2004, this figure had dropped to around 450,000 Latvia's total population is 2,3m (including non-citizens)

Igor Vatolin, a journalist on the newspaper Chas and a Russian rights activist, said the Latvian Popular Front, which led the fight for independence at the end of the 1980s, promised citizenship to everyone living in the republic.

"But they reneged on that - even though thousands of Russians voted with them in favour of independence in the referendum of 1991," he said.

There is no ethnic strife in the streets of Latvia. The two peoples live peacefully together. But politicians on both sides, and in Russia itself, stir things up.

Moscow rarely misses a chance to complain at international meetings of Latvia's "human rights abuses", while the head of the Latvian parliament's foreign affairs committee, Aleksandrs Kirsteins, has described the non-citizens as "civilian occupiers".

He called for an agreement with the Russian government under which all the unwanted foreigners would be herded on to trains and shipped back to their "ethnic homeland" - with a brass band playing on the platform to see them off.

Latvia's two communities deserve credit for by and large ignoring such provocative statements. Despite the bitterness and insecurity on both sides, they have succeeded in forging a peaceful co-existence - somewhat separate, but together.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigotry; latvia; racism; russia; sameoldsameold
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To: Modernman

Then you'd be wrong.


201 posted on 03/29/2005 11:52:51 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Modernman
You on the other hand have already enthusiastically endorsed giving citizenship to any and all aliens who may theoretically invade the US.

Maybe it is your racism which has led you to such treasonous anti-Americanism.

202 posted on 03/29/2005 11:55:15 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Yes. They now had the power to kick out the invaders who had been degrading and destroying their nation and culture.

A nice piece of logic. So all that is about the power to kick out somebody. If you have power you can kick whomever you want, eh? Like white settlers kicked out Indians and later Mexicans from Texas and California, for instance?

I know that you intend to stay in power and anyway evil communists were not so efficient in getting rid of native population as white settlers of America, California and Texas. But suppose for a sec that to become an American citizen Mexicans or Indians would require you to learn Spanish (I do not even ask to learn Navajo) and take an exam of the history of native Americans as well as Spanish conquistadors. All that only because your distant ancestors came to America from somewhere else. And I do not even speak of kicking you out of America because your ancestors had been degrading and destroying the Native nations and culture. I apologize in advance if you happen to be a Native American and keep and uphold the native American culture, but something tells me this is very unlikely.
203 posted on 03/29/2005 11:58:19 AM PST by RussianBoor
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To: RussianBoor

Please. You seek to justify what the Soviets attempted to do because of what happened to American Indians? What next, do you suggest that we put Latvians on reservations?


204 posted on 03/29/2005 12:00:45 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You on the other hand have already enthusiastically endorsed giving citizenship to any and all aliens who may theoretically invade the US.

Nothing enthusiastic about it. If the USA were to be conquered and spent 50 years under some opressive foreign regime, we would have to deal with in a realistic manner after the empire fell apart. What would you do in that case, kick out people who had lived in the US for several generations?

Are you a supporter of Robert Mugabe? The two of you share the same rhetoric and beliefs about "Language, Culture, Borders." You must support his program to drive the white farmers out of Zimbabwe.

Maybe it is your racism which has led you to such treasonous anti-Americanism.

You do not exhibit any ideals that could be labelled "American." You would be more comfortable living in Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan than among true Americans.

Have you found any evidence of my support for genocide of Latvians, mein Herr?

205 posted on 03/29/2005 12:01:02 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Doubt it. You just don't have the courage to share your true views on racial purity for fear of getting banned from FR.


206 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:01 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: RussianBoor

When the Mexicans and Indians have the power to take back Texas and California, then I'm sure they'll do as they please.


207 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:17 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Modernman

I completely repudiate all racialist philosophies.


208 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Modernman

One generation tops, comrade. And seeing that most ethnic Russians were in favor of Baltic independence, then it cannot be that much of a burden to LEARN THE DARN LANGUAGE.


209 posted on 03/29/2005 12:03:23 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Some believe in loyalty to their nation's flag and not to "progressive" notions of "international" human rights. Some people think they have the right to force their racebaiting multicultralism/diversity and reverse racism on the whole rest of the world.

And America's flag has as its foundation a people who established freedom based upon Christian principle of morality, which you have obviously discarded.
210 posted on 03/29/2005 12:03:48 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
Nothing is more humorous than someone seeking to wrap themselves in an American flag after he occupies a country by force.
211 posted on 03/29/2005 12:05:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Modernman

You must support the communist expropriators of land in Zimbabwe as you do those in the former Soviet Union.


212 posted on 03/29/2005 12:05:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 1rudeboy
One generation tops, comrade. And seeing that most ethnic Russians were in favor of Baltic independence, then it cannot be that much of a burden to LEARN THE DARN LANGUAGE.

According to the article, many of these people already speak Latvian. They just refuse, and rightfully so, to take a test that is not required for all Latvian citizens.

Would you support the US government requiring all people of Hispanic descent to take an English and citizenship test?

213 posted on 03/29/2005 12:06:40 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: GarySpFc

Wow, you and I actually agree on something?


214 posted on 03/29/2005 12:07:13 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman

Yes, if they forcibly occupied our nation.


215 posted on 03/29/2005 12:07:50 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: MadIvan
Natural born Americans are free to do as they please as long as they don't break the law. If they wish to sit in their enclave and speak French, like in Louisiana, that's their prerogative.
216 posted on 03/29/2005 12:09:18 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You must support the communist expropriators of land in Zimbabwe as you do those in the former Soviet Union.

How does that follow? The USSR stole the land from everyone in that country, regardless of ethnicity. I am quite opposed to that.

Do you support Robert Mugabe's efforts to drive out white farmers? Following your beliefs in "Borders. Language, Culture," you must.

217 posted on 03/29/2005 12:09:19 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman
After all, black Zimbabweans are completely innocent of Mugabe's crimes right? They shouldn't now have to give up the land he stole back to its rightful owners just because of Mugabe's policies, right? The war is over and the former owners of the land will just have to deal with the brave and patriotic war veterans in a realistic way, right?
218 posted on 03/29/2005 12:09:56 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes, if they forcibly occupied our nation.

The Russians in Latvia did no such thing. They were resettled there by the multi-ethnic Soviet government, at gunpoint.

219 posted on 03/29/2005 12:10:31 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman

I wonder what he thinks of all the Swedish culture that was imposed upon the Latvians for 300 years? Or the Lithuanian culture that was imposed upon them and upon the Belaruss/Russians/Ukrainians? Again, you don't see Latvians in Russia denied citizenship or force to take humiliating tests when they were born there, but then again you don't see NKVD veteran parades either.


220 posted on 03/29/2005 12:11:29 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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