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Why Schiavo case worries the disabled
Toronto Star ^ | Mar. 25, 2005 | WILLIAM G. STOTHERS

Posted on 03/27/2005 6:35:32 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Truth666

Or simply stated: turn up the heat slowly on the frog in the water, it will never notice it's being cooked.

But you are describing indeed the clever evil details of how they do it.


41 posted on 03/27/2005 7:30:00 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: k2blader

Trust me, we are!!!


42 posted on 03/27/2005 7:30:42 PM PST by Vor Lady
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To: FairOpinion
I have been saying this repeatedly.

The issue is "do we kill people with healthy bodies but damaged brains"?

It has nothing to do with what Michael may or may not have done. It has nothing to do with how Terri came to be in that state. It has nothing to do with how far she could have been brought back.

These are the issues that every one keeps talking about but they have nothing to do with the core issue. Do we want to kill the disabled?

This issue transcends Terri.

43 posted on 03/27/2005 7:33:53 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.)
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To: DTogo
Then the states and lawyers of homes for the disabled will get wind of the idea, in order to meet their budgets and spare the taxpayer...

No adult regardless of physical status has the right to force another to work for his benifit. If you don't want strangers deciding wether you live or die then get you hands out of thier pockets.

44 posted on 03/27/2005 7:34:56 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"This issue transcends Terri."


EXACTLY!!!!


45 posted on 03/27/2005 7:37:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: k2blader

considering how we drug children who merely act up and then label them into "disabled" it should not be surprising. EVERYONE is a victim. EVERYONE is entitled to a gov handout. Everyone now has WHINE to go with government issued cheese.


46 posted on 03/27/2005 7:39:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: cripplecreek; All

which means it is even MORE IMPORTANT for conservatives to be voting and ACTIVE in elections.

My Fellow Freepers WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN 2006?


47 posted on 03/27/2005 7:40:58 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: FairOpinion
I share that reasoning. Kevorkian assisted people who were terminally ill and who clearly stated that they wished to end their own lives. Ironically if the U.S. Supreme Court had sided with Kevorkian, we might not be having this debate now over Terri Schiavo.
48 posted on 03/27/2005 7:41:07 PM PST by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise

There is a story that Kevorkian finished off a woman who changed her mind at the last minute.


49 posted on 03/27/2005 7:42:07 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Enterprise

"Ironically if the U.S. Supreme Court had sided with Kevorkian, we might not be having this debate now over Terri Schiavo."


Yes we would. There is a PROFOUND difference between providing the means and allowing people to decide for themselves that they want to die (as Kevorkian did), versus KILLING people, who are unable to defend themselves ( as Greer did)


50 posted on 03/27/2005 7:45:05 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: longtermmemmory

I don't know all the stories to be sure. There were even stories that some of the people may not have had a terminal illness.


51 posted on 03/27/2005 7:45:43 PM PST by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: FairOpinion
I understand the differences. But the reason we might not be having this debate is that she might have been terminated by "lethal euthenasia" a long time ago. She would not have been starved to death. There would have been little, if any, publicity.
52 posted on 03/27/2005 7:49:26 PM PST by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: null and void
The 'disabled', the only minority any of us can join at any time...

Bears repeating.

53 posted on 03/27/2005 7:50:21 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer (God Bless our troops!)
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To: FairOpinion

Excellent article.

Too bad you had to immediately soil it with an inane worn-out Nazi reference that we've heard for the 1000th time. We got it, ok?


54 posted on 03/27/2005 7:50:50 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: FairOpinion

Perhaps, the Dr. Singer would be a better example?


55 posted on 03/27/2005 7:51:49 PM PST by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: longtermmemmory

I almost pray, no I do pray that you are engaging in sarcasm. But I fear that you are not. Your suggestion is so repulsive it staggers the mind. There are worse defects than physical or mental disabilities and that is a defect of the heart. Our value as persons does not lie in having a pure and perfect genetic code. It lies in the great love God has for us. It lies in His incarnation and His resurrection. Both which affirmed the dignity of human life. Body, soul and mind. Perhaps you do not care for an argument centered on Christian teaching. Then think of some of the people that you would have tossed on the dung heap of history. Helen Keller, Alexendar Graham Bell, Beethoven, Stephen Hawkings, Ray Charles, and so many others who have contributed so much to this world.
I feel sorry for you, for if you are serious your heart is as disabled as any so called defective.


56 posted on 03/27/2005 7:54:26 PM PST by lastchance (Life is sacred.)
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To: Made in USA
I guess I should be exterminated since I am no more use to my country.

Remember, if you don't have a health care directive on file, just vote Democrat - they'll be sure to pull the feeding tube when you can't get up to pull the lever anymore...

57 posted on 03/27/2005 7:55:55 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Enterprise
Kevorkian assisted people who were terminally ill and who clearly stated that they wished to end their own lives.

Actually Kovorkin killed several people who were not terminally ill and at least one that was not ill at all.

58 posted on 03/27/2005 7:55:59 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.)
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To: FairOpinion

Just an observation: I seem to note a dearth of the evo crowd on threads such as this. Certainly they have an opinion on the matter. And in the words of a certain Freeper, " Everybody be nice. "


59 posted on 03/27/2005 7:56:36 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: rmmcdaniell
No adult regardless of physical status has the right to force another to work for his benifit.

Do you derive any benefit from paved roads?

60 posted on 03/27/2005 7:57:48 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.)
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