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A Few Points Along the Line Between News and Opinion (NY Times with chutzpah)
NY Times ^ | March 27, 2005 | DANIEL OKRENT

Posted on 03/27/2005 6:12:24 PM PST by neverdem

THE PUBLIC EDITOR

ONE of the more persistent criticisms of The Times comes from those who believe the news pages are the designated disseminator of views passed down from the Olympus that is the editorial page. If there's anyone among the 1,200 newsroom employees of The Times who believes this to be true, I've failed as a reporter: in 16 months, I haven't found a soul here who has ever experienced any pressure, or even endured a suggestion, to conform to the opinions expressed on the editorial page.

Hold your hoots. There may be perfectly sensible reasons why some readers believe that the news pages take direction from the editorial page, some of which I've discussed before, particularly the apparently normative, basically liberal worldview of much of the news staff on various social issues and the generally oppositional position toward those in power that typifies modern journalists. There's also the sheer forcefulness of the editorial page's voice, which in recent years has been so assertively left, and which some people unfamiliar with The Times's operations want to believe is the source of the news staff's daily marching orders.

For the record, it just isn't so - not at The Times, not at The Wall Street Journal, not at The Washington Post or at any other American paper that takes its mission seriously. Executive editor Bill Keller and editorial page editor Gail Collins run operations entirely separate from each other. They consciously, even self-consciously, avoid discussing politics or public issues. "We never ever talk about news or the editorials, under any circumstances," Collins told me in an e-mail message. Their weekly meeting with publisher Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr. and Times president Scott H. Heekin-Canedy is devoted strictly to company issues. If you don't want to believe this, feel free to be wrong. Or check out the different ways the two departments have treated Condoleezza Rice, or Alan Greenspan, or Judge Charles W. Pickering Sr. (If the Pickering nomination had taken place during my tenure as public editor, I could have flogged the diverging coverage for months.)

But there is, in fact, a permeable membrane not quite separating fact from opinion at The Times, and it resides wholly within Keller's domain. It's the ragged line that careens like a wind-up toy through the news sections, zigging past the work of columnists, zagging by the views of critics and doing triple axels around several hybrid forms bearing names like Washington Memo, On Education, Personal Health, Sports of The Times, NYC, Public Lives, Reporter's Notebook and Frank Rich.

These hybrid forms are licenses: in some cases to explain, in some cases to render a reporter's subtle impressions, in some cases to analyze and opine. They all look different from news stories, yes, but also from one another. Presentation varies widely from section to section. Some columnists (Clyde Haberman, Peter Steinfels) have their names up in the equivalent of lights, large and shiny at the very top of a piece; others (Jane E. Brody, Edward Rothstein) get bylines typographically identical to those on straitjacketed news pieces. Typefaces used for "overlines" - identifying words like Personal Health or Public Lives - seem wildly inconsistent. If each style is meant to denote a specific definition - opinion piece, analysis piece, cute-but-unimportant piece - it's escaped me.

Most writers who have at least some freedom to mouth off are distinguished by the typesetting convention of what's called ragged-right formatting (you're looking at it right now), as if this were the international symbol for point-of-view. ("Hey, honey, ragged-right! Let's see what his opinion is!") But the ragged-right brigade also includes the weekly White House Letter, which is not meant to be opinion but, as correspondent Elisabeth Bumiller describes it, "a reported column that attempts to bring to life the people and behind-the-scenes events at the White House"; the election-season Political Points, which was largely meant to be amusing; and the basically-but-not-entirely news pieces like the one tagged West Orange Journal that popped up on B4 two days ago.

In the culture department, where readers are prepared to encounter the strong opinions of critics, most of the identifying overlines couldn't be clearer: Theater Review, Movie Review and the like. Critic's Notebook is only a slightly more opaque way of saying "opinion located here," but for many readers clouds descend in the vicinity of The TV Watch, and I suspect that visibility drops near zero around Connections. Starting tomorrow, an italic line attached to Rothstein's biweekly sort-of-column will declare that it's "a critic's perspective on arts and ideas": in other words, a place for judgment. It's a welcome elaboration, but only the tiniest of starts.

Many readers who object to the incomprehensibility of the labeling also object to this much opinion (or commentary, or untethered illumination, or whatever you wish to call it) ricocheting around pages that years ago presented the news in the sonorous and noncommittal drone of a public address system. Judging by their frequent invocation of the number of years they've been reading The Times, most of these people are even older than I am.

I sympathize with them; the tone and tenor of a newspaper you've been reading all your life can grow to be as familiar, and as comforting, as your mother's voice. But all this columnizing represents an inevitable, perhaps monumental, transformation in American newspapering.

Max Frankel, who was executive editor of The Times from 1986 to 1994, once convinced me that journalistic innovation usually begins on the sports pages, and I think we're now in the middle of one of those moments when innovation is about to morph into standard practice. More and more often, the lead article in the sports section is a Sports of The Times column; just last Wednesday, Selena Roberts's take on Barry Bonds ("We Won't Have That Surly Superstar to Kick Around Anymore") dominated the section's front page.

The key word in that sentence is "take." What won Roberts's piece its prominent position, sports editor Tom Jolly told me, was the wish to provide "distinctive coverage of a widely covered event." Most readers would already have learned about Bonds's explosive meeting with the press from broadcast or Internet news sources, or even from the guy in the next seat on the subway. What Roberts could bring to the issue were her intelligence and her knowledge of the issues, the milieu and the characters; she could explain the event not just usefully but distinctively. NBC and ESPN, Sportsline.com and WFAN, The Post and The Daily News all had the details of Bonds's Tuesday pronouncements, but only The Times had Selena Roberts.

This reliance on columnists to report and explain (as the best columnists do) has spread elsewhere in the paper, but rules vary. Business editor Lawrence Ingrassia tells me that when his columnists (notably Gretchen Morgenson and Floyd Norris) write the occasional news story, special care is taken by both the writers and their editors "to make sure that the reporter's opinions aren't injected into the story." Jolly's version of special care is more confining: "We've drawn a strong line between our Sports of The Times and On Baseball columnists and our reporters. Our columnists only write columns. Our reporters only report the news."

I think Jolly's tougher policy is wise, especially in the transitional period before the newspaper of the future finally arrives; I'd like to see Morgenson and Norris continue to report these stories, but to present what they discover in the clear voices they've already established in their columns. The sports and business sections are both riding a wave toward that future, where writers' authority of voice and distinctiveness of thought will distinguish great newspapers from the rat-a-tat of more conventionally iterative (and instant) forms of journalism. On the way to that very different day, The Times needs to be careful to label opinion and its many variants. The simple addition of a slug of type reading "commentary" (not unlike "news analysis," a Times staple for nearly half a century) would be a productive step, when appropriate; so would the introduction of consistent design signals across the various sections.

After that, it's easy. You just have to make certain that your writers, and the editors who manage their work, are every bit as intellectually diverse as the readership you hope to attract.

Speaking of labels, analysis and opinion: starting April 10, this column, to date congenially accommodated by what is supposed to be the analysis-rich but opinion-free Week in Review section, will be following Frank Rich to the more appropriate turf of the Sunday Op-Ed pages. There, the public editor will be entitled to be wrongheaded on a biweekly basis.

The public editor serves as the readers' representative. His opinions and conclusions are his own. His column appears at least twice monthly in this section.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: balls; chutzpah; danielokrent; nyt; thenewyorktimes
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1 posted on 03/27/2005 6:12:26 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
But there is, in fact, a permeable membrane not quite separating fact from opinion at The Times...

Yer a permeable membrane.

2 posted on 03/27/2005 6:16:09 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: neverdem

And this guy is suppose to be the READERS rep.


3 posted on 03/27/2005 6:16:10 PM PST by marty60
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To: neverdem
I haven't found a soul here who has ever experienced any pressure, or even endured a suggestion, to conform to the opinions expressed on the editorial page.

No, but they didn't hire you because you were a conservative, right wing republican either, did they?

4 posted on 03/27/2005 6:16:21 PM PST by usgator
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To: marty60
Translation: Our editorialsts and reporters don't associate with one another, but we restrict our hiring in either group to committed liberals. Occasionally, the collective groups might disagree on a particular issue, but usually the reporters will endorse (thinly veiled, of course) the same position as the editorialists. We don't claim to understand conservatism, although we occasionally send a reporter or two to dodge the rednecks down South if there's a compellingly pro-liberal story to be found.
5 posted on 03/27/2005 6:25:19 PM PST by dufekin (United States of America: a judicial tyranny, not a federal republic)
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To: dufekin

VERY good.


7 posted on 03/27/2005 6:28:57 PM PST by marty60
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To: usgator

Exactly. Like so many media organizations, they carefully select their staff to ensure the party line is followed meticulously.


8 posted on 03/27/2005 6:30:18 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: neverdem

They just don't get it yet.


9 posted on 03/27/2005 6:49:27 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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To: neverdem
I've had a few dealings with Okrent. I'm inclined to believe that he is blind as a bat, rather than crooked as a dog's hind leg. The political coverage of the Times is biased hard left. But that is NOT because there are instructions passed down from Punch to every copyboy.

Instead, as Okrent almost notices near the end of the piece, it is the hiring practices of the Times which are at fault. If a business hires nothing but vegetarians, eventually hamburgers will disappear from the lunch line. There is no surprise here. Okrent is just chasing a straw man.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Terri Schiavo, Requiesat in Pacem"

10 posted on 03/27/2005 6:52:20 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: neverdem

DANIEL OKRENT receives his salary and perks from the publisher of The New York Times, not from readers. His first loyalties are, therefore, to the publisher.

I have yet to see a SINGLE INSTANCE in which Okrent has responded to reader complaints by correcting a story. Maybe he has corrected a few minor points that I missed. But he has stonewalled in response to every important complaint.


11 posted on 03/27/2005 6:53:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem
I thought about posting this myself. I disagree with Okrent some of the time, but I still like his columns.

This one has some bad points. But I like the way he seems to say that in the future, the Times will have more opinion pieces that are labeled "opinion" or "commentary." No one really thinks the Times will stop being liberal -- I think we'd just like to see them be honest about being liberal.
12 posted on 03/27/2005 7:01:56 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Whiskey Sierra
But it occurs to me that you could start a competing paper and hire who you like. What is stopping that?

I'm not sure if you're trying to make a valid point, or if you're just trying to be argumentative.

In fact, lots of people are starting competing news outlets -- newspapers, magazines, talk radio, blogs, Internet news forums like FR. And many are being very successful. The free market is working just fine.

13 posted on 03/27/2005 7:06:32 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: neverdem

Well anyway, he admitted that everybody at the Times is a lying, biased, left-wing RAT. That's what I heard him say, at least.


14 posted on 03/27/2005 7:09:22 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Congressman Billybob
I agree with your comments 100%.

My own pet peeve with the Times is their relentless, aggressive, hostile attitude toward the U.S. military. I don't understand where that comes from, other than from the childish bias of the people they hire to write and edit the paper.

15 posted on 03/27/2005 7:10:53 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: neverdem

"ONE of the more persistent criticisms of The Times comes from those who believe the news pages are the designated disseminator of views passed down from the Olympus that is the editorial page. If there's anyone among the 1,200 newsroom employees of The Times who believes this to be true, I've failed as a reporter: in 16 months, I haven't found a soul here who has ever experienced any pressure, or even endured a suggestion, to conform to the opinions expressed on the editorial page.

Hold your hoots."

It's irrelevent if they take 'orders' from the editorial page or not ... it is sufficient that they (a) share the editorial positions and (b) feel empowered to insert their views consciously or unconsciously in the 'news' reporting.

Simply ask those 1500 reporters, how many voted for Bush?
If they are not 52% Bush supporters, there is the problem in a nutshell. The New York Times lack ideological diversity. They are INCAPABLE OF AVOIDING BIAS when the newsrooms are pervasively liberal, since news selection, wording of articles, etc. are inherently subjective. It's the "liberal media" because most of those in the newsroom are in fact liberals.


16 posted on 03/27/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem
If you don't want to believe this, feel free to be wrong.

I don't believe it, and I'm not wrong.

I see the author of this puff piece is still stuck in "if I say it's true, it's true" mode.

18 posted on 03/27/2005 7:39:59 PM PST by Col Freeper
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To: Whiskey Sierra
.... just wondering what his complaint really is.

Welcome to FR.

I'm sure the other poster will let you know in due time.

19 posted on 03/27/2005 7:47:08 PM PST by Col Freeper
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To: neverdem
Or check out the different ways the two departments have treated Condoleezza Rice ...

That's a real good example, Mr. Okrent. One department has treated Dr. Rice like an incompetent, war-mongering Aunt Jemima who is nothing more than racial window dressing for the Bush Administration. The other department has treated her like some perverted slut with a stiletto and leather fetish who's probably sleeping with the President. There's a big difference there, all right.

</rolling eyes in total disgust>

20 posted on 03/27/2005 7:50:42 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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