Posted on 03/27/2005 1:53:49 PM PST by mandingo republican
Dear friends,
The Terry Schiavo case is heart wrenching. But, once again we need to look beyond the apparent to find the linkages to the cultural conflicts that have been molding our society for many years. The liberal Democrats, with tremendously fancy arguments, want her to die. (Why not, they're for the death of the unborn as well). While the conservative Republicans, with simple arguments, want her to live. Some years ago Doctor Kevorkian argued for euthanasia, and didn't go very far, probably because his presentation was too harsh and did not attract the interest of the insurance companies and liberals.
For the liberal Democrats its OK to kill babies with late term abortions, but its not OK to kill criminals in death row!
For liberals the loss of 45 million American babies in the last 30 plus years, due to abortions is OK. And, the illegal immigration crisis which has brought more than 30 million illegals to our country, to allegedly fill jobs that can not be filled by Americans, has no connection what so ever! Our aging population and the deficit of young people (the demographic bomb) also has no connection to the elimination of 45 million babies since 1973.
For Liberals the adoration and emulation of Che Guevara is admirable, while the respect and study of American values and traditions is ridiculed and removed from our schools. The study of discredited Socialism (which never created anything of value during its heyday) is promoted, while the Capitalism that pays them, feeds them and clothes them is dismantled.
For liberals, terrorist attacks on America, are viewed from the perspective of guilt. Their reactions are: "We probably deserved these attacks." Or, "We must be nicer to these people, so they can be nicer to us."
For liberals, there are no rights and wrongs. Ethics, morality and family conflicts are interpreted depending on the theory of the moment, and depending on "how you want to define the word 'wrong'.
For the liberals, religion is a dirty word. Faith is laughed at. The idea of worship is viewed as an expression of weakness. Although, not labeling themselves full "Atheists" they are so in practice. They claim to be spiritual, but they don't believe in anything!
This list can go on for miles.
So, what does this tell me in regards to Terry Schiavo?
Clearly the woman is a vegetable, and if she had a Living Will, everything would be easy. But she does not. The woman is being killed as I write this (yes she is not dying, she is being "killed" like she was some laboratory rat) and in the end, her death will have advanced the liberal cause tremendously. Here is why:
1) The Hippocratic Oath, followed by medical practitioners for thousands of years, will be forever broken. A Doctor will no longer be obliged to "save life" for as long as there is a glimpse of hope.
2) Euthanasia as an acceptable practice has arrived.
3) The ancient "Western" concept of "Potesta" which has represented the complex of rights and duties that both parents exercise on their children has been broken, in favor or the right of the "state" over children.
4) The medical "industry" will finally have a "cost control method" with discretions never imagined before. The new politically correct name of this sort of killing will be called "The Ethical Termination of Life."
5) The Insurance "industry" will ba able to set some new "ethical rules" for the reduction of coverage based on the legal precedence's that will sprout from the Schiavo case. For example, covering only of up to 30 days in a vegetative state! And, automatic wavers of life support will be introduced in medical admissions forms at all major hospitals, as normal as organ donation wavers are today. "Check this box to approve your death after 10 days of no coverage by your insurance carrier."
6) New mental therapy "niches" will open up, (since in the 1970's and 1980's we created an over supply of Sociologist, Psychologists, and Social Workers, we need to keep them employed) specializing on how to "cope" with the "new realities of life" brought about by "The Ethical Termination of Life."
To conclude my thoughts on this subject, I created some queries, in the Quaker fashion, to help everyone get a sense of where they are on this issue. Here they are:
If you end up in a comma, or vegetative state in a hospital, under the care of which medical team would you be most comfortable with. A liberal Democrat one, or a conservative Republican one?
Now lets say you recuperate from your illness, and you now have these normal issues to deal with, how would you proceed?
1) You need a job, or you want to start a small business. To whom would you go for advice, or to help you find a job? A liberal Democrat or a conservative Republican?
2) You learned that our country was under enemy attack, and your very own neighborhood was in danger. Whom would you prefer as leader of our country, a liberal Democrat or a conservative Republican?
3) You have a young daughter or son, in need of moral, ethical and sexual advice, but you are away and cannot provide counsel as a parent. Whom would you trust more on these issues? A liberal Democrat or a conservative Republican?
4) You are interested in organizing a religious ceremony to give thanks to god for the many good things that have happened in your life. Where would you go for help. To a liberal Democrat, or a conservative Republican?
5) You are in a crisis, and you need some clear definitive answers that may affect your future. You need courage and vision. You seek a clear "Yes" or a clear "No." Where would you go for this? To a liberal Democrat or a Conservative Republican?
From my perspective, the liberals have thrown a very effective smoke screen to cover their old agenda's in this issue. And, in the end this is not about whether a vegetative woman should live or die. You reach your own conclusions. I am not surprised however, that the liberal Democrats are in this case choosing death.
Joel
For more on this important issue, visit: http://www.terrisfight.net/
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To: Mo1
This is not just about Terri
It's also about legalizing euthinasia
And that's why it's vital she die, to stop a precedent that could end the right to die for everyone.
So9
7,180 posted on 03/27/2005 1:15:52 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
Well ok...
courtesy ping...
In this case he is also dead wrong...
And that's why it's vital she die, to stop a precedent that could end the right to die for everyone.
So9
That is my instinct too. So many are finding solace in the hope that "good will come of this tragedy" and I'm (deathly) afraid that the opposite will bear out.
"If we are going to lose Terri Schiavo's life to the tyranny of judicial activism and political corruption (and although I hold out hope for a save just before midnight I have to be a realist), we owe it to her to make her life the catalyst for dramatic change in this country.
The absolute power of judicial activism is tyrannical and needs to be extinguished. Corruption can never be tolerated.
I was just listening to the radio and Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" came on. I felt dirty for the first time in my life as I listened. How can I be proud of what has become of our country, the beacon of light in the free world and a country founded by patriots willing to risk their lives for what was "right" not procedure and semantics. A woman lay dying at the hands of our judiciary because of procedure, judicial activism and political corruption.
If we are truly to be patriots - something I want to embrace the stone that rests over me for eternity - then we must dedicate ourselves to bring change, to combat the influences of inequity and coercion, to extinguish corruption and to stand in unison for what is right.
In the spirit of those who were brave enough to free this country from the 16th Century fist of European oppression, we must be willing to stand up for what is right in the face of opposition, armed this day with the power of the pen of the new media, we must use as weapons of right our words, thoughts and persuasive argument to affect change for the good of the country and for generations to come.
If we do not we dare not call ourselves patriots."
I agree with Frank. If all of us who have spent countless HOURS posting relevant articles here on Free Republic, and participating in thread discussions, just fall back into our normal, routine lives, after Terri's tragic, sacrificial-lamb death, then she really will have died in vain.
Sad, but true.
I agree. There is something so sinister that is driving the mania on Michael Schaivo's side, to make SURE that Terri dies, and that they WIN.
You have identified the reason for which this adamant stance on the part of Schaivo, Felos and Greer - triumvirate of evil - is so sinister. They want to establish a predecent, from which they can then "refine" all future state-ordered euthanasia projects.
...and make no mistake about it. They will quickly invent reasons for why the Republican leadership caused Terri's "painful" and "tragic" death. Then, building upon that lie, they will argue that it could all have been avoided, had there only been "humane legislation" requiring a painless, lethal injection so that poor Terri, Michael's treasured, cherished ward, could have died "peacefully."
That's what is coming.........to a hospital or hospice near you........and soon. It's all part of a strategy. Perhaps they'll call it "The Kevorkian Principle."
Wonderful post - thank you, Charlite.
Something else to read and hear about, I hope...
Sadly true. A "Kevorkian Law" is no longer inconceivable.
I have posted before that this crosses every political, social and cultural line. It is also, in my belief, that it is much deeper that Democrat vs. Republican and I hate to see people water it down to that. This is truly a battle of good vs. evil of mythical proportions.
While I don't consider myself a tin foil hat kind of person, on a thread this morning another FReeper posted a link to some information that I found disturbing. People have posted much info about the links between all these lawyers and judges, links to Scientology and the Hemlock Society. I did not realize that Clearwater, FL is the international headquarters for the Scientology kooks. Basically the Scientologists believe that only the able bodied should live and those who are weak or disabled keep the able bodied from achieving their full potential. This is why that nutcase/scientologist Felos is obsessed with killing Terri.
They also use black mail to obtain their desired end. The site quoted L. Ron Hubbard's book "Dianectics" where he wrote (not quoting): one day people will say "but this is illegal!" and there will be nothing they can do.
If you want the link FReepmail me and I'll dig it up for you. There has been so much information and it's hard to decipher it all. All I do know is that there is nothing that describes what has gone on here and I fear for my grandchildren's future.
To say the least.
Beyond Terry Schiavo - what is to come
A fight for what is right that we haven't seen since the Revolutionary War.
This time "tea" won't be involved.
No doubt, this issue will breed a political frenzy that will put "Roe -v- Wade" into the archives of political concern.
"Come on, Grandma, I know you're in fine health now, but a long hospital stay could wipe out your savings...wouldn't you like to leave something for little Timmy and Sally? Here, just let the nice Doctor give you a little shot..."
L.Ron Hubbard is as credible as Michael Moore hopes to be.
Not exactly an icon of truth.
He makes a strong case for keeping Terri alive. It is hard to argue with his logic and rigorous intellect.
And FYI: Michael Schaivo does NOT have a living will. Isn't that odd?
And some in both the Republican and the DemocRAT parties like to ask this question:
"Is Jesus a DemocRAT or a Republican?"
Wong question.
The only valid question is this:
Is Jesus a moral relativist?
Meanwhile, you might try using the search box on the "All Messages" page here. If I could think of the title of Orson's column, it would be a snap, but it's not coming to me.
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