Posted on 03/27/2005 11:39:47 AM PST by El_Doctor
Rick Barnard of Morris, Illinois, wass arrested Sunday after trying to bring Terri Schiavo Easter communion. per cnn... ALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said on Sunday there is nothing else he can do to save Terri Schiavo's life. "I cannot violate a court order," Bush said after returning to the Governor's Mansion from Easter Sunday church services. "I don't have powers from the United States Constitution or -- for that matter from the Florida Constitution -- that would allow me to intervene after a decision has been made." To Terri Schiavo's parents -- who have said Bush should do more to help their daughter -- the governor said: "I can't. I'd love to, but I can't." The governor has been under public pressure from Bob and Mary Schindler, parents of the 41-year-old brain-damaged woman, and many religious groups to intervene further in the case. On Thursday, a Florida state judge denied a petition by Gov. Bush and the state Department of Children and Families to take Schiavo into state custody. (Full story) The Florida Supreme Court dismissed on Saturday -- for the second time in a week -- an emergency petition by the Schindlers to have their daughter's feeding tube reconnected. "I'm sad that she's in the situation that she's in," Bush said, commenting publicly on the case for the first time since Thursday. "I feel bad for her family. My heart goes out to the Schindlers and, for that matter, to [her husband] Michael [Schiavo]," Bush said. "This has not been an easy thing for any, any member of the family. But most particularly for Terri Schiavo."
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Yeah...the Bush Boys for Life...yeah yeah....
You chose a good picture for that. :o)
Damn the torpedoes--full speed ahead--check that--the judge issued a restraining order--all engines back full.
You're SO right, and I don't know whether to laugh or cry! I may end up doing both.
However, the STARVATION and DEHYDRATION of another human being is always wrong, even at their request. The fact that millions have done it, if accurate, doesn't make it any less morally wrong. And too many people seem unable to discern the difference between Terri's situation and the situation of a personal relative, one of the reasons Terri must die.
I have done things in my life that were wrong, but have never rationalized the behavior because millions have done it, or recommended that others engage in it, or must engage in it to justify my own behavior. I had to face that certain behaviors were wrong and stop doing them.
BTW, my original comments were regarding what's happening to her, though in this particular case, considering the totality of the facts surrounding it, Michael Schiavo is a morally corrupt and repugnant human being.
I don't know you or your family or why you made the decision you made. Many GOOD people are innocently coached into such decisions at vulnerable periods during their lives because they were lied to with littel realization of how wrong such acts are. It is highly doubtful, for many reasons, that's the case here with Michael Schiavo.
" Adams, "a system fit only for a moral people" "
That speaks volumes..
Trust me, if my relatives think this way, I bet most people even the uninformed do. The polls have to be wrong, or people don't know the full facts of the case. Gov. and Jeb Bush have to trust that when people learn the truth, they will back anything that is done to save Terri. It is illegal to order that she can't be fed by mouth, it's an illegal order, any doctor making such an order is euthanizing the patient wich is against the law.
I will state it again- Saving Terri is THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
(Heck, even Jesse Jackson thinks it's wrong to starve her. )
C'mon governor and president Bush DO THE RIGHT THING. Terri is hanging on to her life, save her. Even if she has sustained some damage from this, she can get treatment for it, it was NEVER RIGHT to snuff out her life because judge Greer ordered her life taken. DO the right thing, Please.......
To everyone who hasn't yet voted in the poll here at FR on Jeb not getting involved please do so. I'd love to see the results!
Excellent, excellent point!
"YOUR POST IS JUST PLAIN OFFENSIVE"
Why? Because the idea he can't doing anything about it is BS? Or is it that the fact they are all spouting the same crap those nazi cockroaches at death camps did--I can do nothing, I'm following orders.
This situation is no different in my opinion. Tough if you don't like it.
explodingspleen, great post! Keep those spleens exploding!
Let me know how you feel when your turn comes up. You think that is far fetched? I use to but not anymore. Evil resides when good men and women do nothing.
Neither Jeb nor George W. Bush likely ever entertained a thought of "interfering" with the carefully choreographed judicial execution of a violated Florida woman. On the contrary, legal precedent set by the Terri Schiavo case is quite in line with fascist creep in America. The Bush Family plays a prominent role in its ongoing nazification. Let me hasten to add though that the drive has many agents on both ends of the political spectrum and stretches back well beyond the current administration. We're just coming into the home stretch, that's all.
The elite put on a great show of good-cop-bad-cop -- vacuously interpreted by the beholden media -- but behind the scenes they are remarkably homogenous in orientation. In light of upcoming social security, medical and insurance crises and other socioeconomic challenges legal dispatching of the elderly and the infirm offers one viable option -- perpetual warfare and engineered epidemics others.
If you are interested, read Dr. Cranford's decade-old recommendations in the New England Journal of Medicine. The study paper he coauthored makes no bones about aiming at cost efficiency. I am sure you are aware that Cranford is the itinerant medical court whore who routinely recommends withdrawing feeding tubes (and even withholding spoon-feeding), regardless of the victim's subjective degree of competence.
Whoever thinks that the ultra pro-elite Bush clan is anything but enthusiastic about implementing euthanasia cannot be helped. Such ostriches have little choice but to continue being thrilled with haps from the propaganda machine until their own experience accrues to some understanding. It should not be hard to remain complacent, considering the excellent fake polarization that is being foisted on public political sentiment in a rampant bread and circuses climate.
What surprises is how readily so many sail past the nominal conservatives' transparent opportunism in this legislating via legal precedent that marks the Schiavo case. Look at recent Republican saber rattling in DC. It was loud enough but what was the result? A utilitarian deferment to the federal Judiciary. Hardly different from what Jeb Bush and the Florida Republicans were doing on the state level. The hoped-for bonus of being able to throw an inexpensive bone to the nervous religious right is peripheral. In the end everyone bows to "the rule of law" and all is well. What better way to be violated than by the rule of law?
That the rule of law should entail harmonious well-communicated interaction between three coequal branches of government got conveniently lost in the furor over this bogus "right-to-die" production. Better, the populace was made to assert its displeasure at the "government's" interference with legal decisions. (As if the courts were not part of the government!) Given the public's reluctance to accept extraconstitutional pronouncements from the executive and legislative branches, dismantling constitutional guarantees must be finagled via the Judiciary's interpretative functions. There are as many Justice Greers to get the job done as political coin can buy.
That is how it was done in post-1932 Germany, and why fix it if it ain't broke? Like then, a complicit press is doing its generous share in the great snow job, as is the nicely orchestrated nationalistic mass fervor in the background that will lead this country to the same ruin achieved by the Third Reich. Let's not think that the handicapped and elderly are the only targets of novel policy, nor even the country's young that will find resting places on ever-expanding foreign soil. The currency is marked for "being let go" also, in case you haven't noticed. It seems that even the treasury has its guaranteed right to die.
Legal euthanasia discovered America, that is quite evident now. Widening its scope to include the only mildly handicapped, more or less defined enemies of the state and whatever scapegoat group may serve the agenda will follow in due course. We should keep this in mind when crediting Jeb Bush with noble intentions regarding his protracted albeit astonishingly counterproductive litigation show in the Schiavo case. While we're at it, let's take a last loving look at the Bill of Rights before kissing it goodbye forever. Terri will be fine. Her painful sojourn on this predatory planet is about over. Our sincere tears for the tortured Schindler family will dry up too in time, but what we should really sorrow for is our own fate and that of our children.
Those for whom this is too complex to grasp may fan their mild unease with a few deft waves of the flag. Few ills resist that remedy. If that won't do it, they can always engage in seemingly significant banter with the blessed liberals that are chasing the poisoned carrot in the other lane. Excuse me now while I attend to an overwhelming sadness in my heart.
A pretty bad attempt at humor
If you laugh at that, you're nuts. Was no attempt at humor.
If humor wasn't mean't---it was downright cruel then.
You are nuts for even posting it---this from someone that had one parent whose family was wiped out at Bergen-Belsen.
"That would be great, but it's a fantasy."
I don't think it is necessary to hold back action to save one just because there are so many others.
Not only that, he said he can do it. Now he says he can't. People disagree, and 'calling a state of emergency' needs to be considered regarding who is correct. He should explain why he doesn't to the American people.
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