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After Defeats Schiavo Parents Tell Supporters Go Home
AP - Yahoo ^ | March 26, 2005 | Jane Sutton

Posted on 03/26/2005 7:20:40 PM PST by EveningStar

Bob and Mary Schindler, both practicing Catholics, urged dozens of supporters gathered outside the Florida hospice where Schiavo is being cared for to go home for Easter.

"The family would request that everyone go home, be with your children, hold them close and share every moment you have with them," said Brother Paul O'Donnell, a Franciscan monk who is a spiritual adviser to the Schindlers.

It was not clear if the Schindlers had finally abandoned all legal avenues in their fight to restart their 41-year-old daughter's feeding, a cause that embroiled the Florida legislature, the U.S. Congress and President Bush.

(Excerpt) Read more at story.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Thanks for the link. I always thought hospice was a pretty good group but after this in Fl, I don't know. I will read up on this.


401 posted on 03/26/2005 9:58:26 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Chad Fairbanks
No shots need be fired.

Declare the State of Emergency, bring in overwhelming firepower, surround the hospice, and order the sheriffs to stand down.

Governor Bush can take the microphone himself.

Do you think they will feel any loyalty to the swamp judge Greer at that point?

Not likely.
402 posted on 03/26/2005 9:58:43 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I've never said that, nor have I ever said I believed that, nor have I ever posted anything that could reasonably or rationally be construed as believing that..

Okay! Please, pick one: A) The death of Terri Schiavo will be an act of murder B) The death of Terri Schiavo will not be an act of murder You do realize, of course, that if you pick A) then we can just take a quick look at Article 4 of the state constitution, glance at the Florida Statutes, and have all the legal premise necessary for the Governor to send in the national guard.
403 posted on 03/26/2005 9:58:44 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I agree......many might think this "murder" but the majority of the polls like 65% or so say they would want the feeding tube removed and the govt to stay the hell out of this family matter....the definition of murder does not have legal standing in this matter except for as a "moral judgment".......one I am not prepared to make at this time


404 posted on 03/26/2005 9:59:14 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Chad Fairbanks
What kind of nation have we become when making death threats against judges is acceptable?

And executing innocent women who can't defend themselves.

405 posted on 03/26/2005 9:59:45 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: Deo volente
bring in overwhelming firepower, surround the hospice, and order the sheriffs to stand down

No shots NEED be fired... however, all it takes is one misfire, or even worse, some nutcase in a crowd to fire into the air once, and...

406 posted on 03/26/2005 10:00:22 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: MTOrlando

It is an unjust execution of an innocent woman, unfortunately in accordance with the laws of the state - laws that should never have seen the light of day, and need to be changed ASAP.


407 posted on 03/26/2005 10:01:26 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Of course, it is, after all, FLORIDA.

They really need to look over their laws and regulations, and other states too, for loopholes like this.

408 posted on 03/26/2005 10:01:35 PM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: PistolPaknMama

I don't disagree with that statement. YOu are correct.


409 posted on 03/26/2005 10:01:56 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Lori675

he does nothing???.....that is your emotion talking, not your supposed rational reasoning mind.....if not for Jeb Bush, she would already be dead......and calling one stupid for voting for Jeb Bush, well let's just say that that tactic is used by liberals at DU......not an intellectual discussion to be advanced


410 posted on 03/26/2005 10:02:10 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Former Dodger

Yes, they do. These laws never should have seen the light of day. We, as a people, really dropped the ball on this one, and ultimately, we are all to blame.


411 posted on 03/26/2005 10:02:44 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: NorCalRepub
the definition of murder does not have legal standing in this matter except for as a "moral judgment"

That is correct, but the legal definition of "criminal neglect of a disabled adult" in the Florida Statutes does! Failure to feed a disabled adult is criminal neglect. Court order enjoined anyone from attempting "Natural Feeding" on Terri.

The PVS statute allows removal of a feeding tube - it DOES NOT remove the other statutory protections given any disabled adult.

Death resulting from criminal neglect of a disabled adult is felony manslaughter 1.

Therefore, the court order prohibiting natural feeding of Terri is an order by the court to commit a crime and cannot be valid. Jeb needs to send in the National Guard.
412 posted on 03/26/2005 10:04:38 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: smoothsailing

Don't know about that but Rush read the polls the other day and they were similar. Problem I see though is most people just think this is a family squabble. Guess they don't think the state of FL courts, legislature are part of their government. They have been involved for years with this case. Government just means the Pres and Congress. They have no idea what the ramifications are here. Either that or we are all lost.


413 posted on 03/26/2005 10:05:05 PM PST by Hattie
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To: EveningStar

Dear Father God - we have worked so hard to get the word out about Terri. Many of us have emailed and called - attempted to get the TRUTH regarding her case to all that will listen. We have prayed and prayed and encouraged Jeb Bush, and President Bush to do SOMETHING. At this late hour, it is apparent they have done all the court sysytem will allow them to do. We thank you for their efforts.

Father, we do not know Your will. We only know that when Terri comes home, she will no longer be suffering, and we thank You for that.

Father we ask that as soon as her spirit leaves this earth, that Judge Greer, George Felos, Michael Schiavo, and ALL of the Judges who have had an opportunity to save her - begin to feel Your will, and that Your Justice will be done.

We know Terri will not have died in vain. Her legacy will live on - and we will not allow this atrocity on earth to be forgotten. We have faith , Father, that You will have the vengance - for Terri's sake.

Thank You, Dear God, for being All knowing, ALL loving, and for allowing us to spread the Truth - for Terri's sake.

In Jesus, Name, Amen.

To the Schindlers: I have no idea if you will ever read this, but I have cried with you,for you, fought with you from my position in life - and I applaud the efforts you have made for your daughter. I am so sorry. I do not have words to convey how I feel for you and your other children. God is with you. Rest in that.

To the FReepers reading this now: We cannot give up. Even though THIS particular battle may be lost - we cannot give up our quest to RIGHT the wrongs in this world. Sometimes WE are the only voices people have. Do not give up the Fight.

Remember to attempt to join the march in D.C. on April 7th. Perhaps we can prevent 'future' Terri's from this suffering - if we make our voices heard.

God Bless all, and Terri - Rest child, Rest. JK


414 posted on 03/26/2005 10:06:21 PM PST by Just Kimberly (Always proud, Always American, Always Trust in God...HOOAH!!)
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To: MTOrlando

very good.....you seem to know more about this than the Pres, the Gov, and all the butt kissing attorneys.....how come they are not as smart or heroic as you??????.......or for that matter many here on FR who think they know the law and any legal precedence better than those involved?


416 posted on 03/26/2005 10:07:37 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: atomicweeder

AP News is reporting that the husband has denied Terri communion on Easter.

Would you expect less from a murdering adulterer?


417 posted on 03/26/2005 10:07:44 PM PST by Gimme
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To: Hattie
I always thought hospice was a pretty good group but after this in Fl, I don't know. I will read up on this.

Many people think that Hospice is just another medical facility. In fact Hospice is where you go to die. There is no medical care beyond that of "helping along the dying process". If you change your mind then you had better leave the facility post-haste because treatment is NOT an option. I have been in many "right to die" debates on FR and have always maintained that we are going from a "right to die" to a "duty to die" mindset in this country. The polls and legal profession have shown us that we have arrived.

418 posted on 03/26/2005 10:07:59 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: BibChr
Then let's all see pictures of how beautiful it is to be starved and dehydrated to death. I am not convinced, to say the least.

I agree with your argument, Dan, but if they aren't showing the pictures from 9-11 (lest the public be reminded why we're taking the fight to the terrorists), they sure as hell aren't going to show any of the pictures of her dying like this.

My question is this: when this kind of stuff happened with Germany and the Nazis, we were one of the countries who rode to the rescue. In fact, when any country gets in trouble like that, we have come to their rescue.

Who is going to come to ours?

419 posted on 03/26/2005 10:08:24 PM PST by Christian4Bush ("In Common" for 1000, Alex: Beached whale, terrorist, juvenile murder 1. "Whom can U not starve?")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
It is an unjust execution of an innocent woman, unfortunately in accordance with the laws of the state - laws that should never have seen the light of day, and need to be changed ASAP.

You dodged the question. Is it murder?

I personally am not sure it's murder, but it is definitely felony manslaughter 1. See this post for a quick outline. If I knew it would change your mind, I'd take the time to dig up the actual statutes so you could read for yourself.

P.S. Don't bother trying the "The governor's legal team knows everything. There must be something wrong with your argument or he would have acted already" counterargument.
420 posted on 03/26/2005 10:09:42 PM PST by MTOrlando
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