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Nazis Used Starvation to Kill
newsmax.com ^ | Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST

Posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:47 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST Nazis Used Starvation to Kill

Confounding all conventional wisdom and human experience, many liberal groups and even some medical experts have argued for Terri Schiavo’s death.

They claim that starvation and dehydration is not painful or discomforting for her or anyone undergoing the experience.

In fact, they allege that such victims begin to experience "euphoria” as the victims draw close to death. If such claims are true, we may have to rewrite the history of such notorious events as the Holocaust – where starvation was the key process by which millions died and were later placed in crematoriums.

The internationally-accepted Geneva Convention – which identifies starvation as a war crime – also will have to be rewritten. Ditto for many statements made by reputable organizations – many of them liberal, who have condemned the practice for decades.

Strange Bedfellows

Remember that statement about politics making strange bedfellows? Perhaps such is the case with liberal activists who want Terri to die from starvation and the Nazis who killed 13 million people.

As it turns out, starvation was the primary means of killing unwanted peoples.

Shortly after World War II, a U.S. congressional committee investigated the Nazi Holocaust and found that starvation was the main instrument of torture in the concentration camps.

The Committee notes the prisoners' daily diet "consisted generally of about one-half of a pound of black bread per day and a bowl of watery soup for noon and night, and not always that."

The report continued, "Notwithstanding the deliberate starvation program inflicted upon these prisoners by lack of adequate food, we found no evidence that the people of Germany as a whole were suffering from any lack of sufficient food or clothing. The contrast was so striking that the only conclusion which we could reach was that the starvation of the inmates of these camps was deliberate."

If we believe the New York Times, what’s so bad about the Nazi’s starvation tactic?

A Times article relating to Schiavo’s death cited several "experts” who offered the new view on starvation.

"From the data that is available, it is not a horrific thing at all," Dr. Linda Emanuel, the founder of the Education for Physicians in End-of-Life Care Project at Northwestern University, told the New York Times.

The Times also cites Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatrics and palliative care at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, who insists that starvation victims "generally slip into a peaceful coma."

"It's very quiet, it's very dignified - it's very gentle," he adds.

Despite the Times’ desire to turn the truth upside down, the facts speak for themselves:

To begin with, there is the long standing and internationally accepted Geneva Convention: "The prohibition to starve civilians as a ‘method of warfare’ is included in Article 54 of Protocol I and Article 14 of Protocol II."

According to the International Criminal Court, starvation as a means of killing is a war crime. The Court noted: "Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions' is a serious violation of the laws and customs of war [52]."

The liberal human rights organization, Amnesty International, has long cited starvation as inhumane. For example, in the aftermath of the Vietnam War, the group claimed that "scores of civilian deaths, predominantly among children, from starvation and injuries [were] sustained during the conflict." Amnesty International stated at the time that it "condemns in the strongest terms the use of starvation as a weapon of war against civilians as a clear and serious violation of Geneva Conventions that Laos has ratified."

Amnesty International also blasted North Korea after the UN reported that some 2 million North Koreans have died from starvation, adding that in total, 50 percent of the population doesn't have enough to eat.

Work And Progress, a liberal Web site, was critical of U.S. involvement in Afghanistan in 2001, and even claimed the U.S. military action there had caused up to 7.5 million Afghans to be threatened with starvation. The site went on to note: "Starvation is, quite literally, torturous. And the equation will seem just about right to many people: the atrocity that the U.S. government is willing to subject a handful of people to on U.S. soil, it is willing to subject millions to in some far off land."

In 2001, Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., a member of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus, offered up House Resolution 102, backed by three other lawmakers, noting that during World War II, the Axis Powers – Germany, Italy and Japan – noting that many of the 18,745 American soldiers captured during the war "were subjected to barbaric prison conditions and endured torture, starvation, and disease." The treatment of American POWs "violated international human rights principles," said the resolution.

In a report by the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, regarding the "Definition of the Right to Food," the commission recommended "the right to food and nutrition was a human right." The commission also advocated "the right to food in emergency situations" should "be taken into account," to "include the obligation of states to grant access to impartial humanitarian organizations to provide food aid and other humanitarian assistance."

The New York Times may well be remembered as the newspaper that was most outraged over photos of Iraqi terrorist suspects being mistreated by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison – but claimed that starvation was a benevolent way to die.

Of course, if the Times is right - and starvation causes "little discomfort" - the paper may have uncovered a valuable new tool in the war on terror.

One wonders how the Old Gray Lady would react if U.S. interrogators began to starve terrorist suspects in a bid to extract information.


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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Shes dead....we bury the dead

So last week they should have buried her?

Some day you're going to get older and more than just mentally decrepit. It will prove to be very ironic.

161 posted on 03/26/2005 5:27:42 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

How do you know she's in misery?


162 posted on 03/26/2005 5:28:11 PM PST by MsLady (Presidential prayer team)
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To: MsLady

Wow, it'll be interesting to see the answer to that one.


163 posted on 03/26/2005 5:28:51 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: ladylib
You are just so incredibly vulgar. Why don't you just call it a night? You aren't doing yourself any favors.

oh I see, because you dont like my opinion I should just "call it a night"...that can work both ways, you are acting all "hissy"...why dont you call it a night?

what next...we gonna excahnge "your momma" jokes?

164 posted on 03/26/2005 5:28:54 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Numbers Guy

no, shes brain dead


165 posted on 03/26/2005 5:29:17 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
She's never going to get any better. I mean after all, she's just a useless eater. Maybe you'd like to do it for me? Been studying melodrama at the community college have we?

Try answering the question rather than deflecting it.

166 posted on 03/26/2005 5:29:24 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

She's brain damaged not brain dead. Brain dead is absolutely no activity on an EEG. She does have minimal brain activity whether you like it or not.

My cousin was in Terri's state when her husband found a new honey and decided it was time to "let her go". It took her over three weeks to die. She looked like the picture posted above of a concentration camp victim. It was really bad.

I thought we as Americans were a notch above the rest of the world but you know what we honestly can't say that anymore. We used to protect the vulnerable and downtrodden but our most vulnerable people are being disposed of because of inconvenience. First it was the unwanted babies, then the terminally ill and now the disabled. Where does it stop? Who's next?


167 posted on 03/26/2005 5:29:50 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Naw, let's make it chalmation jokes.


168 posted on 03/26/2005 5:30:15 PM PST by Modok
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To: k2blader

no, I love the world! Dont you? Dont be sad


169 posted on 03/26/2005 5:30:17 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
no, shes brain dead

About 980 more times to go and you'll get to the Goebbels big lie threshold of 1,000.

170 posted on 03/26/2005 5:30:37 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: zarf

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1371477/posts


171 posted on 03/26/2005 5:31:03 PM PST by thompson ("If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd." - Samuel Adams)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I've never seen anyone brain dead breath before. Usually they stop breathing, turn blue and there bodies get real hard. Then after a few days there bodily fluids start to leak. Gee, Terri looks pretty good for having been brain dead for the last 15 years.


172 posted on 03/26/2005 5:31:36 PM PST by MsLady (Presidential prayer team)
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To: Radix
Other than a book of fiction or a movie, I never had to think about it before.

Nor have I, and now can only wish it would have been kept confined to fiction or historical documentary, a lesson would have been learned. Unfortunately, it wasn't.

173 posted on 03/26/2005 5:31:43 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
[shes brain dead]


This statement is provably wrong and easily so.

"Brain death is a clinical diagnosis. Absent brain stem reflexes, failure to initiate respiration when off the respirator, and absent cortical function are accepted criteria of brain death. A flat electroencephalogram for longer than 12 hours (in the absence of hypothermia or sedative drugs) and absence of vascular filling of the cerebral vessels on cerebral angiography corroborate the diagnosis of brain death."



This means that all persons who are medically diagnosed as being brain dead are unable to breathe or have heart function on their own or have any measurable brain activity.

Schiavo has no difficulties with breathing or heart function and she has a large amount of constant and measurable brain activity.

If you want to argue for the withholding of food from someone who is in a "mentally incompetent state" then do so, but grossly misdefining her condition is not going to get you anywhere, here.
174 posted on 03/26/2005 5:31:47 PM PST by spinestein
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

What are you trying to prove on this thread, anyway? There has to be some fundamental motivation.

Why not just say it?


175 posted on 03/26/2005 5:31:49 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Okay, cite actual evidence from media reports of actual medical evaluations (not assertions by reporters--we know how the MSM makes stuff up around here) on which to base your claim that TS is brain dead (or more pertiently was brain dead when they began starving her).

You can't: her 'loving husband' as her guardian has prevented fMRI's from being done. Only on the basis of an fMRI showing no brain activity in the cerebral cortex can one assert that someone is brain dead. (And some states have statutes requiring multiple scans to avert the possibility of 'false negatives' pronouncing the living to be dead.)


176 posted on 03/26/2005 5:32:44 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will understand. . .)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Go away. You're not worth replying to.


178 posted on 03/26/2005 5:34:41 PM PST by ladylib
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To: k2blader
What are you trying to prove on this thread, anyway? There has to be some fundamental motivation.

He is trying to prove that he has nothing to do tonight. Obviously he has some anger and frustration to take out. I've got plans tonight, so I'm heading out, enjoy the rest of the jousting with our clearly not brain dead friend.

Too bad he doesn't have plans tonight, though the ability to make plans relates to having a pleasing personality, so there's probably little hope for him.

179 posted on 03/26/2005 5:34:50 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Javelina

Do you disagree with the title and body of the article?


180 posted on 03/26/2005 5:35:33 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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