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Nazis Used Starvation to Kill
newsmax.com ^ | Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST

Posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:47 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST Nazis Used Starvation to Kill

Confounding all conventional wisdom and human experience, many liberal groups and even some medical experts have argued for Terri Schiavo’s death.

They claim that starvation and dehydration is not painful or discomforting for her or anyone undergoing the experience.

In fact, they allege that such victims begin to experience "euphoria” as the victims draw close to death. If such claims are true, we may have to rewrite the history of such notorious events as the Holocaust – where starvation was the key process by which millions died and were later placed in crematoriums.

The internationally-accepted Geneva Convention – which identifies starvation as a war crime – also will have to be rewritten. Ditto for many statements made by reputable organizations – many of them liberal, who have condemned the practice for decades.

Strange Bedfellows

Remember that statement about politics making strange bedfellows? Perhaps such is the case with liberal activists who want Terri to die from starvation and the Nazis who killed 13 million people.

As it turns out, starvation was the primary means of killing unwanted peoples.

Shortly after World War II, a U.S. congressional committee investigated the Nazi Holocaust and found that starvation was the main instrument of torture in the concentration camps.

The Committee notes the prisoners' daily diet "consisted generally of about one-half of a pound of black bread per day and a bowl of watery soup for noon and night, and not always that."

The report continued, "Notwithstanding the deliberate starvation program inflicted upon these prisoners by lack of adequate food, we found no evidence that the people of Germany as a whole were suffering from any lack of sufficient food or clothing. The contrast was so striking that the only conclusion which we could reach was that the starvation of the inmates of these camps was deliberate."

If we believe the New York Times, what’s so bad about the Nazi’s starvation tactic?

A Times article relating to Schiavo’s death cited several "experts” who offered the new view on starvation.

"From the data that is available, it is not a horrific thing at all," Dr. Linda Emanuel, the founder of the Education for Physicians in End-of-Life Care Project at Northwestern University, told the New York Times.

The Times also cites Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatrics and palliative care at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, who insists that starvation victims "generally slip into a peaceful coma."

"It's very quiet, it's very dignified - it's very gentle," he adds.

Despite the Times’ desire to turn the truth upside down, the facts speak for themselves:

To begin with, there is the long standing and internationally accepted Geneva Convention: "The prohibition to starve civilians as a ‘method of warfare’ is included in Article 54 of Protocol I and Article 14 of Protocol II."

According to the International Criminal Court, starvation as a means of killing is a war crime. The Court noted: "Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions' is a serious violation of the laws and customs of war [52]."

The liberal human rights organization, Amnesty International, has long cited starvation as inhumane. For example, in the aftermath of the Vietnam War, the group claimed that "scores of civilian deaths, predominantly among children, from starvation and injuries [were] sustained during the conflict." Amnesty International stated at the time that it "condemns in the strongest terms the use of starvation as a weapon of war against civilians as a clear and serious violation of Geneva Conventions that Laos has ratified."

Amnesty International also blasted North Korea after the UN reported that some 2 million North Koreans have died from starvation, adding that in total, 50 percent of the population doesn't have enough to eat.

Work And Progress, a liberal Web site, was critical of U.S. involvement in Afghanistan in 2001, and even claimed the U.S. military action there had caused up to 7.5 million Afghans to be threatened with starvation. The site went on to note: "Starvation is, quite literally, torturous. And the equation will seem just about right to many people: the atrocity that the U.S. government is willing to subject a handful of people to on U.S. soil, it is willing to subject millions to in some far off land."

In 2001, Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., a member of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus, offered up House Resolution 102, backed by three other lawmakers, noting that during World War II, the Axis Powers – Germany, Italy and Japan – noting that many of the 18,745 American soldiers captured during the war "were subjected to barbaric prison conditions and endured torture, starvation, and disease." The treatment of American POWs "violated international human rights principles," said the resolution.

In a report by the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, regarding the "Definition of the Right to Food," the commission recommended "the right to food and nutrition was a human right." The commission also advocated "the right to food in emergency situations" should "be taken into account," to "include the obligation of states to grant access to impartial humanitarian organizations to provide food aid and other humanitarian assistance."

The New York Times may well be remembered as the newspaper that was most outraged over photos of Iraqi terrorist suspects being mistreated by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison – but claimed that starvation was a benevolent way to die.

Of course, if the Times is right - and starvation causes "little discomfort" - the paper may have uncovered a valuable new tool in the war on terror.

One wonders how the Old Gray Lady would react if U.S. interrogators began to starve terrorist suspects in a bid to extract information.


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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
so you have now resorted to calling me names? Mature....real mature

Weren't you the one who just referred to me (without justification) as an "idiot"? And now you're complaining about name-calling?

121 posted on 03/26/2005 5:14:34 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Numbers Guy

shes brain dead


122 posted on 03/26/2005 5:14:41 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Diogenesis

["You know, if I were a single man, I might ask that mummy out," Clinton said. "That's a good-looking mummy." ]




I remember the Clinton/mummy incident, particularly because of the reaction by the crowd of onlookers and the press who were there.

If any other person had made that exact statement, the crowd would have just chuckled for a few seconds at the macabre joke, but when Clinton said it, there was this veeeeeeeeery uncomfortable silence (as everyone there simultaneously had this image in their head of Bill Clinton and a mummy together on a "date").

This incident should tell you all you need to know about what the Clinton legacy will be.


123 posted on 03/26/2005 5:14:53 PM PST by spinestein
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

You're right tinhat, just kill all of the unworthies. Jews, gypsies, fags, retarded, babies . . .


124 posted on 03/26/2005 5:15:09 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: ARCADIA

Sure seems that way doesn't it?


125 posted on 03/26/2005 5:15:10 PM PST by MsLady (Presidential prayer team)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

126 posted on 03/26/2005 5:15:47 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
shes brain dead

I think the Goebbels rule is that you have to repeat a lie 1000 times before people will start to believe it. At that rate you're going to be typing "shes [sic] brain dead" for the rest of the evening.

127 posted on 03/26/2005 5:15:54 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Diogenesis
You are either braindead yourself -- or on a troll.

yeah....you got me, Ive been here since 2000...supporting consertives from the very begining....yeah....Im secretly a DU'er...HA! had you all foiled....good detective work there MATLOCK!

pffftt!

*rolls eyes at you

128 posted on 03/26/2005 5:16:01 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Sorry..but you're being asinine.

What you're saying is simply this......"She is of no use to society. She can't walk or talk (at least that we can understand)....and only her parents wish to keep her here alive. So...put her to death."

redrock

129 posted on 03/26/2005 5:16:06 PM PST by redrock (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. --Will Rogers)
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To: Numbers Guy
I would suggest that somebody like you who can't write a complete sentence without spelling and grammatical errors shouldn't be calling people "idiots".

whats that you say? Diverting from the point of the thread? Thats what people do when they dont have anything of substance to add

130 posted on 03/26/2005 5:17:00 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

No she's NOT! They just had 2 Dr.s on Tv stating that TERRI NEVER HAD A MRI OR BRAINSCAN!! They both admitted that the extent of her use of her brain will not be known. One Dr. said they should do it RIGHT NOW....while she's still alive. Can you imagine that....michael never allowed an MRI or brainscan. Wonder why.


131 posted on 03/26/2005 5:17:11 PM PST by Pillows
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Brain damamged people can feel emotion, feed themselves, walk, learn again....Terri can do DONE of those nor wil she ever be able to

You left out a key word: "some". *Some* brain damaged people can do all these things. But it is simply false that *all* brain-damaged people can do all these things.

-A8

132 posted on 03/26/2005 5:18:02 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Thats what people do when they dont have anything of substance to add

Non-physician, heal thyself.

133 posted on 03/26/2005 5:18:04 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Diogenesis

shes smiling? Gimmie a break, you could wave poo on a stick in her face and shed still have that look on he face...whats your point?


134 posted on 03/26/2005 5:18:15 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
shes (sic) brain dead

Has she ever even had an electroencephalograph? Hmm? If she has not why hasn't "hubby" allowed one? Hmm?

135 posted on 03/26/2005 5:18:29 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Here come da king, er, judge!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

in either case the same result, a human lives a longer life


136 posted on 03/26/2005 5:19:57 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Look! Jimmy Carter! History's greatest monster!)
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To: GSlob
[It routinely happened in medieval warfare, though, and even later, in Thirty Years war.]


Genocide by starvation also occurred in the Soviet Union, and more recently in Somalia and Ethiopia, and even at this moment, in Sudan.

It's actually quite common for tyrannical governments to do this, because it's a good way to wash your hands of responsibility.
137 posted on 03/26/2005 5:19:58 PM PST by spinestein
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Just so you get a clue. Abortion law started out that you could only have an abortion in the first 3 months, now you can have one for any reason up until the baby is delivered. These things have a habit of only getting more extreme as time goes by. Man cannot control his selfish motives.


138 posted on 03/26/2005 5:20:02 PM PST by MsLady (Presidential prayer team)
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To: spinestein

Oh, and I forgot Iraq under Saddam Hussein.


139 posted on 03/26/2005 5:21:02 PM PST by spinestein
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

The same could be asked of a newborn infant. So what is next, a new form of post parum abortion by starvation? After all, because infants can't feed themselves it wouold only "letting them die" just like they say Terri is being allowed to do. You watch, its coming.


140 posted on 03/26/2005 5:21:27 PM PST by TonyM (E)
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