Judge Greer denies Schindler family's last hope to save Terri Schiavo

MSNBC ^ | 3/26/2005 | N/A

[sockmonkey]

breaking

[KSApplePie_two]

Chad get a grip!!!!!!!!!!
I NEVER said we shouldn't pray for them!!!!
I said they aren't on the same level as the schindlers in their grief over this situation. DUH!!!
Don't put words in my mouth.
GET A GRIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Iluvbush2]

The travesty of this situation is that it comes down to the Schindlers having a crappy lawyer. The lawyer didn't present the evidence she wanted to speak until the last minute.

The statement by Weller was posted on a site on March 20. This all comes down to procedural errors????

I am sick....

[Txsleuth]

I hope that Jeb Bush and the Schindler's lawyers have learned from their naive belief in people to "play fair" and will already be setting in place the orders to take Terri's body(boy, do I hate typing that) into custody in order to autopsy it---

The lawyers should be writing the briefs right now, and J. Bush should be alerting the proper authorities to stand guard over the body until the medical examiner take possession---

Besides, if Michael Schiavo has nothing to hide, wouldn't you think that it is the LEAST he could do, let the parents have an autopsy done, and take Terri "home" with them---?

[jwpjr]

re: It was a power play and Gov. Bush isn't willing to have others killed to reassert executive authority.

So the rule when you're dealing with the judiciary is that all they have to do if they want to do something illegal is simply fix it so that the governor will have second thoughts about undoing it? His failure to act is setting all sorts of precedents. Precedents that will come back to haunt him the next time some two-bit county judge is willing to play poker with the life of an innocent person. Jeb Bush took an oath to uphold the laws and the constitution of the State of Florida. The law clearly gives him the power to support the DCF and even outlines the remedy, take the endangered person into DCF custody and then fight it out in court. I'm sorry, you will NEVER convince me that Jeb Bush could not have moved to take custody of Terri, even if it meant going to a higher court and having them order him to uphold the law and exercise his power as chief executive.

[Future Useless Eater]

>>>>(CF)I'll keep a close eye on any grilled cheese sandwiches I run across, then... and I'll make sure if anyone has a Terri Shiavo statue, to look for bleeding eyes on it...

>>Chad, you are a better person than that.

when Freepers who used to be good persons come her to rub salt into the wounds of those grieving, they cease to be good persons.

[Cboldt]

This has been a case of COVER YOUR @$$ by the powers that be.

SNAFU. Situation Normal, ...

[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, sorry if I made you cry, but I'm not here to hold your hand and comfort you. Not my job, nor my responsibility. That may sound cold, harsh, and mean, but it's not meant to be. It's merely reality.

I'm not going out of my way to make you cry, but if things I've said - truth, common sense, and rationality - have done so, well, I'm not the one with the problem.

That being said, I hope you find comfort in Prayer. It always works for me.

[GloriaJane]

Here, this will break your heart.

http://fight4terri.blogspot.com/2005/03/attorney-barbara-wellers-last-visit.html

[workerbee]

Why should we think that NOW anyone is going to leap into action to 'save' Terri from cremation? If GreerSchiavo have so ordered an immediate cremation, an immediate cremation they shall have! The Schindler lawyers, Florida "law" and Jeb Bush will not be stopping it.

[syriacus]

while Terri cried out for her life and Greer denied her plea, the Deathacrats stood by and did nothing! They ran and hid! Those who weren't in the House arguing against saving Terri's life.

Some politicians have been busily trying to stop foreigners from eating American horse meat. Not a bad goal, perhaps, but protecting horses is not more important than protecting people.

SENATOR FEINSTEIN'S HORSE SLAUGHTER BILL

As Americans, most of us were shocked to learn that this odious, ugly and gut-wrenching practice even exists. Why? The reason is simple. Horse slaughter, or the slaughter of our pleasure, nonfood animals, is not and never will be part of our culture

Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) and Rep Robert Wexler (D-FL) cosponsored a horse-protection bill in the House, even though they fought against the House bill to save Terri.

[presently no screen name]

See post #231 - "Made in USA" said it and I ran with it!

[mlc9852]

Don't worry about your choice since Jeb isn't running anyway. Yeah, we need a democratic president. That will show them. Let's all just go change our party affiliations now. The dems have proved they are so much more caring about unborn babies and the disabled. They'll get my vote.

[Petronski]

Of course she's not going to be canonized. There's no need to stoop to that.

[Cboldt]

Now a law needs to be passed that says judges must visit with patients whose lives they can take away.

Florida statutory law has something like that now, where is says "the court" must visit the victim, errr, patient, before approving the order that the victim would accept death by court-approved starvation.

[Chad Fairbanks]

when Freepers who used to be good persons come her to rub salt into the wounds of those grieving, they cease to be good persons.

The same could be said for FReepers who hurl horrible invectives, such as "Nazi" and worse, at others. Funny thing, though, Future Useless Eater, I don't see YOU calling them on it. You just let it go right on by, and yet feel compelled to comment on one idiotic comment (and yes, I admit that) by me.

[pbmaltzman]

Now is the time for Jeb to take acton. He should go on the offensive against this judge. You have an officer of the court saying she tried to communicate on 3/18/05. The judges response is that was involuntary action. How does he know this did he see her? She is now being sentenced to death without a jury of her peers. What if she suddenly came out of the coma like other people have done? is she still sentenced to die?

If you go to the Thomas More Law Center website, they have an article there explaining that two letters were sent to Jeb Bush in about October 2003 which opined that he indeed had the legal authority and the power to rescue Terri.

Neither Jeb nor DCF needed Greer's permission to rescue her; but both of them telegraphed their intentions in time for Greer to block them. Jeb and the DCF "blinked."

Could Jeb and/or DCF do something even at this hour? Probably. But unfortunately, I don't think they will, although I truly wish they would.

I personally called DCF within the last hour. A nice young woman named Tiffany took my information. She was willing to document the call, but she told me that she had been instructed not to go any further with it. DCF knows what's going on, and apparently they have washed their hands of it.

Everyone's covering their @$$--that is, anyone with the power to rescue Terri. And it sickens me to have to say that.

[jwpjr]

re: They feel bound by nothing at all

And you can bet your bottom dollar they are reveling in this outcome today, not just in Greer's courtroom, but all over America. Congress passes a law, the first federal judge just plain out ignored it and then the appeals court and finally the supreme court back him to the hilt. What do you think this has done for their attitude that they are above the law? They have simply proved that they are. Congress is impotent when it has to face the judiciary, and they've proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. There should have been federal marshals in there to take charge of Terri and her care the moment that judge thumbed his nose at the subpoenas.