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Judge Greer denies Schindler family's last hope to save Terri Schiavo
MSNBC ^ | 3/26/2005 | N/A

Posted on 03/26/2005 9:10:00 AM PST by sockmonkey

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: greer; itsaheckofacountry; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terristarvation2005
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To: AmericaUnited

You wrote:
The only problem with your theology is that God does allow the consequences of evil when we choose it and allow it to happen. God's will is that we value life. Period!


Please consider this. True, God gave we humans "free will" and, true, there are consequences of our disobedience (evil).

But let's don't put limits on God. He is all powerful. He has ALL OF THE POWER. God can use EVERYTHING for his glory.

This Easter weekend, Christians around the world are celebrating God's power in overcoming the crucificion. This is the ultimate example (which we can apply in our daily lives) that God's love can overcome the most grievous events.

That's what faith is all about. Holding a grudge is limiting God and his power. We are fooling ourselves if we think that we have power over God's plan. Your argument seems to be that we are not trying hard enough to exert human power.

Of course, I believe that God has given us the inspiration and ability to make the necessary changes within our political system to remove those persons in elected and appointed positions whose actions and behaviors DO NOT REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

This is the proper use of our WILL. Let's start the work of balancing the 3 branches. This great republic of ours deserves our attention if it is going to survive.


161 posted on 03/26/2005 9:40:48 AM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: Joseph22
It is time for The Bush's to become heros and save poor Terri.

Hate to pee in your wheaties, but that ain't gonna happen.

162 posted on 03/26/2005 9:40:59 AM PST by Nexus6
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To: CounterCounterCulture
How does Judge Greer sleep at night?

He doesn't sleep at night ... that's when he goes out looking for blood.

163 posted on 03/26/2005 9:41:03 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Spunky

>"To her, I seemed unattractive, sexually unexciting, balding, boring, and just not enough fun to be with....<

I'm sorry, I have to guffaw. Poor old Lawyer Felos married a most perceptive woman!


164 posted on 03/26/2005 9:41:13 AM PST by Darnright (No matter how sick a person is, he is and will always be a man, never becoming a vegetable or animal)
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To: conservlib
Schiavo was not in a deep coma, she is brain damaged.
Quinlan was on several machines. She was brain DEAD.
Ms. Schiavo is not, and a feed bag is not a machine!

She was not suffering, until they started to starve her to death...

Furthermore; Something most folks don't even consider:
A mentally retarded person does not have the same expectations in life. They aren't concerned about being able to do all the things that we are capable of. It's not within their cognitive ability. They are happy just staring at a pretty picture, hearing some nice music, etc.

Ms. Schiavo probably has very little cognitive thinking, if any. But we don't really know.
But like any severely retarded baby, or brain damaged person, they don't care. They don't have expectations that you or I have. Brain damaged people have forgotten what they used to be like. The world as they know it, is different then ours. Their reality is not our reality.

BUT:
They still want to live.
And how can anyone deny them that right?
165 posted on 03/26/2005 9:41:57 AM PST by FBD ( “The measure of a society is how it treats the least of us.)
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To: Zenith

I agree


166 posted on 03/26/2005 9:42:10 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Chad Fairbanks

radical pro-lifers>>>>>>>

nutjobs>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Of course, according to YOU, these "nutjobs", as YOU called them, would also just have to be "radical pro-lifers", as YOU called them also.

Let me ask you this:

If you knew that a murder was taking place on your street or in your town at a particular place would you make sure you stopped by while it was going on?



167 posted on 03/26/2005 9:42:25 AM PST by Run Silent Run Deep ("Leftists are little Ward Churchills")
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To: technomage
Never forget what has happened in this case. We now see who truly runs this country and who truly has the guts to do what they 'think' is right: the judges, the lawyers, the ACLU.

They feel bound by nothing at all, certainly not by legislation directing their own conduct. And it wasn't just Greer. It was the whole judicial establishment, federal and state, and their supporters/enablers.

168 posted on 03/26/2005 9:42:27 AM PST by madprof98
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To: FairOpinion

He could have removed her before holding the press conference, allowing Greer to issues his illegal order, which Gov. Bush isn't willing to risk blooshed over.

He did mess up, by underestimating Judge Greer's willingness to violate the separation of powers.


169 posted on 03/26/2005 9:42:53 AM PST by tomahawk (If we can't stand for life, what can we stand for?)
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To: sockmonkey

This was/is an opportunity to not only save an innocent woman, but also to send a signal that judges will no longer be allowed to rule this country. For so very long we have behaved exactly as frogs in slowly heating water; now it's boiling around us as our intended form of government has evolved into a mutated mess. It was never intended for a tiny handful of men in robes to be able to continually subvert the will of the people by injecting their own personal beliefs and agendas into decisions instead of simply interpreting the constitution and the laws of the land.

A strongly armed contingent should rescue her, after which Jeb Bush should explain why. Radical? Perhaps. But what was the Revolution? What was the Declaration of Independence? We have become so conditioned, so soft, so subservient a people that the thought of defying some yahoo in a black robe is now virtually unthinkable to this country.

Systems require shakeup and ours hasn't had one in a long, long time. Sadly, I don't think it's coming, either. This is a time for ultra-bold and courageous leaders to step forward, but it would appear it's not going to happen. The result will be an even tighter grip by a runaway judiciary that already wields the power of a monarchy. It's a tragic, heartbreaking day.

MM


170 posted on 03/26/2005 9:43:07 AM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: FairOpinion
"Stop asking Jeb to destroy himself and the GOP. It is over. The people of Florida murdered Terri, by entrusting their rights to a politcal hack like Greer in the first place, despite scandal after scandal."

You are 100% correct. Jeb Bush went over and beyond, in his attempts to save Terri.

Regardless of any arguments about legal and court stuff (pardon the simplicity), it's unbelievable that any American can order the denial of attempts to give moisture and nourishment through the mouth.

171 posted on 03/26/2005 9:43:19 AM PST by easonc52
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To: ArmyBratproud

Unfortunately I don't think a modern MRI couldactually be performed, from information I've seen - some elctrode type thingies she had embedded in her brain in the early 90s... I could be wrong, But I think that is actually why one hasn't been done.


172 posted on 03/26/2005 9:43:19 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: sockmonkey

I see wrongful death civil suits a mile deep. Michael will regret this for the rest of his life. Greer may be toast after this, my Florida contacts are outraged at Greer's actions.


173 posted on 03/26/2005 9:43:24 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby!)
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To: sockmonkey

May God bless Judge Greer and lead him in the path of peace and rightousness. Have mercy on his soul.


174 posted on 03/26/2005 9:43:47 AM PST by Run Silent Run Deep ("Leftists are little Ward Churchills")
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Well, I missed that ticker run then. No problem. I wasnt sure but didnt think you were trolling hysteria!!"

I am Sorry...for this post!
I replayed it on the Tivo, but didn't record it.
Of all things to get screwed-up on; I goofed this one.

Sorry, to you, and to all.

175 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:09 AM PST by hoot2
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To: TonyM

Who are you trying to punish. Seems like you have "I'LL SHOW HIM" attitude.

If you didn't enjoy this current 'murder by decree' - you think you would be happier under her 'reign'.

Reflect - who is "in charge" during this fiasco? Clinton's appointee. Get it? w/o her being prez, you are getting a taste - just a taste of what's to come with your vote.


176 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:10 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: varina davis

Why would he call a press conference? (Not asking you, just wondering aloud). He won. There is no need to face the press.
Has the family seen her this am? Could she be dead and cremated?


177 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:14 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Orlando
Can the Vatican declare Theresa a Saint right now ?

No, that's an extremely long involved process which also requires a couple of miracles. Not gonna happen any way, any how.

178 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:22 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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To: Misty Memory

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT!!!

I had been wondering what the laws concerning autopsies where cremation is involved in FLA.

Now, lets see if this BLACK AND WHITE law is upheld, or if, as we have seen in other cases involving laws that are black and white, there is an attempt to weasal out of it. I just see Greer and some judges: "We know her cause of death, so we don't need no stinking autopsy..."


179 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:23 AM PST by LRS
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To: TonyM

I'm Praying for you pal


180 posted on 03/26/2005 9:44:30 AM PST by CincinnatiKid
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