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Cambridge Uni Bans Students In Kilts
Glasgow Daily Record ^ | 03/26/2005 | Steven Ventura

Posted on 03/26/2005 8:22:57 AM PST by Keyes2000mt

SCOTS students have been banned from wearing the kilt to graduations at Cambridge University.

Instead, men must wear the traditional English formal dress of a morning suit and white bow tie.

The authorities at Cambridge have allowed undergraduates to wear national dress to ceremonies for decades.

But now Scots have been told they can no longer wear kilts under their academic gowns.

The move was sparked by the university proctors, officials who are responsible for student discipline.

They claimed graduation ceremonies were being ruined by students wearing flamboyant national dress and insisted that an ancient dress code barring them should be enforced.

The senate syndicate - - senior members of the university - agreed the move.

Last night, the decision was described by Glasgow Tory MSP Bill Aitken as 'racist'. He added: 'They want to drag themselves into the 21st century.'

The SNP's Kenny MacAskill said: 'This is petty and very narrow-minded.The Cambridge Uni would do well to realise we're now living in 2005.'

Brian Wilton, spokesman for the Scottish Tartan Authority, said: 'While we do not know the dress code of the colleges concerned, we would be very disappointed to see a ban on tartan and the wearing of national dress.'

Military uniform has also been banned. Female students must wear black dresses or suits.

A fourth-year male student, who did not want to be named, said: 'I'm very proud of my Scottish identity and I think this is unfair on Scottish students.'

A Cambridge spokesman said: 'National dress at graduation has always been banned but the rule was never enforced.

'The proctors felt the situation was being abused and called for the law to be upheld.'


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dresscode; graduation
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1 posted on 03/26/2005 8:22:57 AM PST by Keyes2000mt
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To: Keyes2000mt

Let them run nakkid. When you are so eager to sacrifice your rights, don't be surprised if a few unexpected ones also fall by the wayside.


2 posted on 03/26/2005 8:26:09 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Keyes2000mt

But of course if these were Muslim students, they would be allowed to wear whatever they wanted!


3 posted on 03/26/2005 8:29:12 AM PST by pharmamom (Let's err on the side of Life, OK?)
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To: Keyes2000mt

well as long as they dont ban beer I think they will get over it.../sarcasm


4 posted on 03/26/2005 8:30:07 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers.)
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To: MikeinIraq

If it's not Scottish, it's CRAP!

;-)


5 posted on 03/26/2005 8:32:50 AM PST by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: ARCADIA
Time to dig up the Claymores and revolt! You Can't say the Scots haven't tried to win their freedom in the past. They kept taking swords and dirks to gun fights and it didn't work. I have some Scottish ancestors and a few tales told about the bonny Prince Charles.

Laws were passed against speaking the Galic and wearing national dress in an attempt to make the Scots and Irish more English like. If you take away their heritage you can more easily assimilate them( Borg type thinking).

This works if you are talking about immigrants but only irritates people if you are trying to subvert them. Witness, galic is still spoken and Kilts are still worn, except of course at graduations!

6 posted on 03/26/2005 8:38:00 AM PST by calex59
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To: 2Jedismom

"as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself"
BUAIDH NO BAS.


7 posted on 03/26/2005 8:38:19 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (Let Me Die on My Feet in the Swamp, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: calex59

But aren't msot of these Scottish students lowlanders who are not entitled to wear the kilt? Not Celtic at all, but invaders who pushed the Celtic tribes into the mountains?


8 posted on 03/26/2005 8:42:15 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: 2Jedismom

one of the best SNL skits EVER !


9 posted on 03/26/2005 8:45:14 AM PST by EDINVA (i)
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To: Keyes2000mt
Tartan I would wear:

And shield


10 posted on 03/26/2005 8:51:16 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Keyes2000mt
Now, be fair, everyone. Nobody is being allowed to wear his national dress at this occasion; the edict isn't particular to Scots. Remember that people come to Cambridge from all over the world, especially from many of Britain's former colonial empire, and there are some pretty weird get-ups that may be ridiculous and/or a distraction from the sober proceedings of the graduation. If the authorities at Cambridge don't want to be treated to the spectacle of a lady from Africa or Australia wearing a loincloth and a lion skin, they have to ensure that everyone wears much the same clothing, not just the aborginals. So the Scots aren't being singled out.

In any case, the kilt cannot be considered morning dress, which is a different sort of formal attire. The kilt can be worn for dinner dress--that is what we in America call "black tie"--but is not worn for white-tie occasions like state dinners at Buckingham Palace or the White House, and does not constitute morning dress either. Morning dress requires a pale-grey cutaway jacket and a grey top hat, which would look pretty silly with a kilt. And the last thing we want is to make the proud kilt look silly. It is noble, handsome, and romantic in its place, but morning wear is not its place.

11 posted on 03/26/2005 9:30:51 AM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: proxy_user

What kind of confused pseudo-history is this? The Scotti themselves were a Celtic tribe, and the Picts were most likely an earlier native people. That aside, the evolution of the kilt comes far, far later. So we lowlanders are "entitled." (though by whom, I do not know)

Andrew


12 posted on 03/26/2005 9:32:46 AM PST by Andy Ross (A Scot in Trondheim)
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To: pharmamom
But of course if these were Muslim students, they would be allowed to wear whatever they wanted!

Not true. Institutions are allowed to ban camo suicide bomb vests. They must be black or a single subdued color.

13 posted on 03/26/2005 9:36:07 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for Terri Schiavo)
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To: Keyes2000mt
SCOTS students have been banned from wearing the kilt to graduations at Cambridge University.

Disgusting. Where's the "tolerance"? Where's the "diversity"? *\;-)

14 posted on 03/26/2005 9:43:31 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Greetings, proud Fraser!
15 posted on 03/26/2005 9:45:51 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: calex59
galic is still spoken

Ahem. In English it's "Gaelic" (in Scottish Gaelic Gáidhlig). Tha beagan Gáidhlig agam.

16 posted on 03/26/2005 9:47:00 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Andy Ross

The terminology is all wrong. In Britain, people of Scottish descent are called Scotch. I talked with them on the Isle of Skye. Scotch folks are well-defined by custom. I had the pleasure of watching the 'Games' years ago and those men were huge. At night, they dressed up in kilts and visited the restaurants (pubs) where everyone could meet them. Gentlemen of the highest order.


17 posted on 03/26/2005 10:01:12 AM PST by BobS
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To: Andy Ross

Well, it was my understanding that in historic times (1600-1800) only recognized Highland clans had a tribal plaid and wore kilts. They also spoke Gaelic and were Catholics.

The lowlanders wore trousers, spoke Scots English, and were Presbyterians. They looked down on the Highlanders as barbarians.


18 posted on 03/26/2005 10:02:07 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Keyes2000mt
Cambridge Uni Bans Students In Kilts

Yeah... they could hide a weapon in there!

19 posted on 03/26/2005 10:09:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: pharmamom
But of course if these were Muslim students, they would be allowed to wear whatever they wanted!

If you look at the battles over headscarves in Europe, it's clear that Western authorities have tried to limit what Muslims can wear, and also that it's hard to make those rulings stick, but I don't think the Scots are really what this is all about.

This may be a clever way of restricting what African or Asian graduates can wear without singling them out. No one objected to kilts in past years, and no one's going to tell non-Whites how to dress, so the rule is made and the focus is put on the Scots, whose tartans are a lot less distracting than other ethnic costumes. It could be a way of making the ruling stick while skirting a more troublesome conflict with Muslims and other, less assimilated groups.

20 posted on 03/26/2005 10:23:57 AM PST by x
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