Eric Cohen asks the right questions. There is something in Terri that wants to live and that something should be honored.
1 posted on
03/26/2005 2:00:47 AM PST by
SusanD
To: SusanD
This is a really good article, thanks for posting it.
2 posted on
03/26/2005 2:09:46 AM PST by
jocon307
To: SusanD
There is something in Terri that wants to live and that something
should be honored.
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There is something called Michael that wants her dead and instantly
cremated, and that something should be publicly exposed,
tried, convicted, and permanantly imprisoned !!!
3 posted on
03/26/2005 2:32:58 AM PST by
GeekDejure
( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
To: SusanD
...only those with the ability to express their will possess any dignity at all--everyone else is "life unworthy of life." Alas, it has come to this, eh?
Herr Goebbels would be proud.
4 posted on
03/26/2005 2:39:00 AM PST by
XR7
To: SusanD
re: There is something in Terri that wants to live
It is her belief that when her time comes God will take her. He will take her when He is ready. He needs no help in calling Terri home. Were it His will that Terri should die there wouldn't be time to discontinue her feeding tube. Terri has survived an incredible length of time for someone in her condition. She has survived being denied even the most basic care that would normally be provided for someone in her condition. Her care givers were forbidden to do anything that would prolong or better her life. She did not receive dental care and was kept in a dark room with the curtains closed day after day. God has had ample opportunity to call her home if that were His will. She has survived not because of, but despite, the horrible conditions to which her guardian has demanded for her. I don't know if Terri wants to live or not, but I think her faith was, and is, such that if that's God's will then its her will. How else could you hope to explain the fact that she is still alive despite the neglect and abuse that she has apparently suffered at the hands of her guardian.
5 posted on
03/26/2005 3:11:04 AM PST by
jwpjr
To: SusanD
Has this peculiar set of syllogisms that describe the political position known as "liberalism" ever served ANYBODY? They use the legalistic wrangling of children to make a point, then almost immediately abandon that same point when forced to defend it on the basis of logic or precedent.
Aren't there ANY grownups still in the room? Through some kind of arcane reasoning, laws that are passed with a majority support of the legislature, in response to a demand from the general public, are overturned on "constitutional" grounds, by combing through the various placements of punctuation and redefined meanings of words, to derive a meaning exactly opposite of the original intent of the law as written. In other words, argue that black is white, when the plain evidence is that there is nothing to be seen but a very sharply defined statement.
We know that Judge Greer suffers from macular degeneration. Does this physical blindness somehow make his opinions from the bench more "just"? As in the old adage, "Justice is blind"? He is compelled to memorize, or recall from a spoken statement, how the reasoning that was used to arrive at a certain conclusion, should be used to build on a subsequent point. He lacks the capacity to review the written transcript of his own findings, which has to further handicap his ability to come to a fully reasoned position, therefore his unwillingness to consider even the smallest motion for new evidence. He has never SEEN the videotape of Terri Schiavo, and those who describe it to him may change the impression to anything they think the judge should hear.
6 posted on
03/26/2005 3:15:48 AM PST by
alloysteel
("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
To: SusanD
At this very moment, my wife, a nurse, is attending a young man with Cerebral Palsy. He lives with his mother and is utterly unable to move his limbs. He must be bathed, fed, dressed, and turned in his sleep.
He has the ability to talk (very slurred) and has a bright and inquisitive mind. He enjoys music and his computer.
He is not sick and could live many years.
How long before our society considers this young man not worthy to live because he cannot do what most can do?
To: Saundra Duffy
I thought you might want to read this article.
8 posted on
03/26/2005 3:54:03 AM PST by
Bahbah
To: SusanD
Liberalism (socialism) fail us all.
A man abandons his wife--commits adultery, openly lives with another woman and his illegitimate children--can legally kill her because he is considered to be acting within the "sanctity of marriage."
They don't even begin to understand what marriage truly is all about, because they don't know the One who created marriage or life.
They are gods in their own eyes.
9 posted on
03/26/2005 4:22:18 AM PST by
ViLaLuz
To: SusanD
If Terri was meant to die, her vital organs would've deteriorated by now. But her brain was working to keep her alive and functioning. How can a "vegetable" have the brain power to make that happen? That's another form of dignity in my opinion.
Her evil, estranged husband took a lot of her dignity away by refusing therapy. He took the rest of it away along with the feeding tube.
To: SusanD
The law in this case (and many others) is exactly backwards. The law should be that, without explicit written instructions from the patient, the medical community should be required by law to provide all life-sustaining measures. None of this hearsay testimony from anyone should overrule this.
11 posted on
03/26/2005 4:29:24 AM PST by
libertylover
(Being liberal means never being concerned about the truth.)
To: SusanD; All
13 posted on
03/26/2005 5:09:09 AM PST by
aculeus
(Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
To: SusanD
More like a healthy man who beat his wife into her disability and then stole the award money set aside for her care and therapy...this physcially healthy man who wants the one witness against him dead...
Coupled with corrupt prosecutor, judge, and politicans too afraid to do the right thing.
imo
16 posted on
03/26/2005 6:51:32 AM PST by
joesnuffy
(The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
To: SusanD
17 posted on
03/26/2005 8:21:51 AM PST by
expatguy
(http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
To: SusanD
This is an excellent article; very much worth reading in full.
The author is brilliant, imho, and frames issues in a way that could help those on the other side find their way toward another point of view.
18 posted on
03/27/2005 1:51:32 AM PST by
Tax Government
(Withhold hydration from the judicial branch of government. Contribute to FR; that may help.)
To: SusanD
I do agree that no dignity was afforded this gal or her parents family.
This to me is liberalism at its base and it stinks to high heaven.
To: SusanD
When will this world, and America, learn ?
and wake up ?
that ? for the last 45 years or so,
wake up and see how that liberalism has beguiled us all, as in this article, " One more act in modern liberalism's betrayal of the vulnerable people it once( supposedly ) claimed to speak for.
Another example of beguilement is the lie and scam of feminism, how the feminist have told women for the last 40 or so years that you can " HAVE IT ALL " and " YOUR ARE BETTER THAN MEN " and ? women have been finding out that they are more " UNFULFILLED " than every in this time in history.
Just like the Devil, he promises you the " WHOLE WORLD " ( in reality ? the devil can only give you a counterfeit, fake ) doesn't that line sound so familiar ? " YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL " the WHOLE WORLD ?
This wouldn't be the first time the devil has tempted women, and told them a lie.
Liberalism is showing it's TRUE FACE ( even though, some of us already knew for years ) to the public at large.
The battle lines are already drawn, we are clearly seeing the battle line between GOOD and Evil.
We are seeing the mask being pulled away from the face of liberalism and seeing for what it is, and whom it is, and who liberalism stands for.
WOMEN ? it's time to reject and walk away from Feminism.
Feminism has lied to you ladies, promised you " THE WORLD " or in other words " HAVE IT ALL / that just repackaged in other words "
Feminism is only a counterfeit, a fake, in what GOD wanted to give you.
Feminism told you all the great lies, to trap you in their trap and mindset to fulfill it's evil purpose.
Feminism is opposed to GOD, and is diametrically opposed to GOD's word the bible.
Feminism never really had the intentions of supporting womens rights ( yeah, that's what they told you, to get you in, to trap you in ) but, they have a sick agenda, that never has anything to do with a " WOMANS RIGHT " .
If anything, that we have learn this passed 2 weeks, if that liberalism, and feminism is not PRO- Family, and PRO - WOMEN, ladies ? if Feminism were PRO - WOMEN, then ? why are they not in support of Terry ?
Ladies ? don't you see the lies and hypocrisy of the Feminist ?
Liberalism is a cancer to our sociality, and lives.
20 posted on
03/27/2005 2:30:33 AM PST by
Prophet in the wilderness
(PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
To: xsmommy
21 posted on
04/01/2005 9:09:34 AM PST by
hobbes1
(Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
To: SusanD
"But the real lesson of the Schiavo case is not that we all need living wills; it is that our dignity does not reside in our will alone, and that it is foolish to believe that the competent person I am now can establish, in advance, how I should be cared for if I become incapacitated and incompetent. The real lesson is that we are not mere creatures of the will: We still possess dignity and rights even when our capacity to make free choices is gone; and we do not possess the right to demand that others treat us as less worthy of care than we really are." That's the key paragraph.
Forget your Living Wills, the Religious Loons want to return to the days when you were forced to submit to any medical procedure, endure any physical outrage, live in pain for years to feed the sadistic need of these people for the pain of others.
They will make it illegal to let you die, no matter what your wishes are if they can.
SO9
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