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Former Adviser Presses Gov. Bush to Launch Criminal Investigation to Save Schiavo
NewsMax ^ | 3/26/05 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:05:47 PM PST by wagglebee

Although Florida governor Jeb Bush has for all intents and purposes tossed in the towel in any eleventh-hour rescue of Terri Shiavo, at least one former legal advisor is admonishing the chief executive for not using the state's criminal laws as authority to intervene – without the need for family or judicial approval – and reinsert the hospice patient's feeding tube.

Richard Thompson, the president and chief counsel of the Thomas Moore Law Center, says doing so would preserve the life of a material witness in a potential criminal case.

The launching of a formal criminal investigation into possible abuse of the helpless patient would allow the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to remove Schiavo from the custody of her current guardian – husband Michael Schiavo, who has been for years dedicated to terminating the artificial feeding of his brain-damaged wife.

Today, Thompson once more affirmed that Florida Governor Jeb Bush has the legal authority to utilize state criminal laws to prevent the death of Terri Schiavo.

Legal Memos

Pointing to two legal memos prepared by the Thomas More Law Center which were delivered to Governor Bush in October of 2003, Thompson again urged Bush to launch a formal criminal investigation into the facts surrounding the disability of Schiavo.

The two letters dated October 15th and 16th point to the constitutional authority of Governor Bush to order the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate violations of criminal laws.

The letters cite a number of facts suggesting Terri Schiavo is a victim of domestic abuse and neglect, and may be a victim of domestic violence.

The October 15 letter concludes that a growing number of facts establish probable cause to "conduct a full criminal investigation of the circumstances surrounding the disability of Schiavo. To date, the facts of this case have not yet been viewed through the lens of a criminal investigation. Shamefully, the government's investigatory resources have not been brought to bear on discovering the truth in this case."

Speaking Thursday in Ann Arbor, Michigan, Thompson once again urged Governor Bush to launch a formal criminal investigation and remove Terri Schiavo from the custody of her current guardian.

He further indicated that the consent of Schiavo's guardian is not necessary to obtain custody of Terri. Thompson also offered the assistance of attorneys from the Thomas More Law Center to assist the Governors staff if needed.

The two legal opinions were prepared and delivered to Governor Bush in October of 2003, after Schiavo's feeding tube was removed.

Thompson noted that Bush through his aides requested the legal counsel at the time, but instead chose to work with the Florida legislature to pass emergency legislation to prevent the death of Schiavo.

Ironically, it was authorities from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that rode to the rescue of the starving Shiavo on Oct. 21, 2003 - in the wake of the passage of the so-called "Terri's Law." At that time, she was six days into her enforced and life-threatening fast.

The extraordinary one-page bill was passed by the Florida legislature and signed into law by Bush in less than 24 hours, but later challenged by Schiavo's husband and held to be unconstitutional.

Judge Greer Again

Florida's Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer has ruled that under general welfare regulations the state cannot take Schiavo into custody, nor provide her food or water. However, the firm judicial ruling was specifically addressed to an effort by the state's Department of Children and Families to civilly rescue the brain-injured woman by physically removing her.

At the time of Greer's ruling there was no ongoing criminal investigation – as, indeed, there is none today.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2little2late; alltalkandnowalk; bushgirlymen; crimeinvestigation; cultureofdeath; jebbush; jebisfinished; jebwussedout; judgegreer; michaelschiavo; pontiuspilate; schiavo; terri; terrihysteria; terrischiavo
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To: wagglebee
If a quarter of the deposed testimony is true, that would seem to warrant a full criminal investigation, and it also seems that there are many unanswered questions on many aspects (I certainly have em). I wonder if they're already working on it?

As cremation, I hear, is what MS et al. have in mind to do immediately (hopefully Theresa lives and this is moot), they ought to already have a plan to stop it. I guess it'd be a sure thing (things that make you go hmmm) since there are Florida Pinellas County police there. The responsible ones probably need to be informed NOW by their citizens who think an investigation isn't called for but overdue. Here are contacts for the Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement:

FDLE Contact Form:
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/contacts/

And another online resource you may find helpful sometime: http://www.fbi.gov/

And another (its all about justice)...

http:/www.usdoj.gov Any other links to add?
21 posted on 03/25/2005 7:25:36 PM PST by ExposeEvil (Stop Judicial Oligarchs)
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To: Diogenesis

And what, pray tell, is "micturated"?


22 posted on 03/25/2005 7:26:03 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: NorCalRepub

Terri was to appear in front of Congress the 28th, so if anything Congress could have ordered the witness into custody and the tube reinserted days ago.

They called her as a witness, but did no follow up to their order.

Or it could be views as the Florida judiciary had ignored Congress.

Some heads in Florida have a potential to have heads rolling if Congress pursues the lack of enforcement by the powers in Florida.


23 posted on 03/25/2005 7:27:41 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: winchester73

I know the feeling - stay the legal course. On the other hand we'd be kissing the Queens a$$ if our ancestors (except the illegals) had felt that way.


24 posted on 03/25/2005 7:29:52 PM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: winchester73
we must follow the rule of law and abide by these worthless judges decisions no matter how unjust their decisions are.

No. Our obligation as free citizens is to resist tyranny.
25 posted on 03/25/2005 7:31:46 PM PST by yankeedog (I wasn't born in the South, but I got here as soon as I could.)
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To: wagglebee
"If Jeb Bush could find a way to make Judge Greer a party to a criminal investigation, he could be completely removed from the case and detained if necessary."

In an ideal world, Jeb should have been in line behind the US Congress.

26 posted on 03/25/2005 7:33:30 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: wagglebee
PEOPLE v. ARCHERD (1970) 3 C3d 615

"...The lapse of time between the various offenses and the indictment of defendant on July 27, 1967, is considerable but is adequately explained by the record. The murder weapon in each case was unique, insulin. The deaths of each of these victims were initially attributed to causes other than a criminal agency. Suspicion of insulin and of defendant as the person administering the insulin was not aroused until the death of Zella in 1956. It was not until years later, after much painstaking and persistent investigation by law enforcement officers, and the discovery of advances made in {Page 3 Cal.3d 621} medical knowledge and techniques, that sufficient evidence could be accumulated to charge defendant with these deaths. Unfortunately, by then other of defendant's victims had lost their lives. This is the only known reported case of murder by insulin poisoning in the United States. Only one other, reported world-wide, occurred in England in 1956. ..."

27 posted on 03/25/2005 7:33:46 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: wagglebee

Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. Jeb should take action to stop this unjust death.


28 posted on 03/25/2005 7:33:51 PM PST by Dubya_4ever_USA
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To: wagglebee
If Jeb Bush could find a way to make Judge Greer a party to a criminal investigation, he could be completely removed from the case and detained if necessary.

Brilliant! What's he waiting for?

29 posted on 03/25/2005 7:35:34 PM PST by rapture-me
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To: A CA Guy

that may be......but he can not "storm" the castle down there in Florida and remove her without consent of the guardian....and we all know who that is......


30 posted on 03/25/2005 7:35:39 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: wagglebee

Why is this being made public. Why tell the enemy what you're thinking of doing .. it just makes them dig their heels in farther. For all we know .. this could trigger some action to accelerate Terri's demise.

I believe this might be a good idea - but it's out there in the public now so the element of surprise is gone.

Good grief.


31 posted on 03/25/2005 7:35:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: wagglebee

They're all stalling and running the clock down Terri is dead. You see, this innocent women is an inconvenience to them.

But, we the people will never forget. We have long memories, and come next election we'll make our voices heard.


32 posted on 03/25/2005 7:35:55 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: Diogenesis

In an idea world, the US Congress would have the testicular fortitude to have federal agents use force, if necessary, to ensure that their subpeonas were obeyed.


33 posted on 03/25/2005 7:36:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Diogenesis; wagglebee; Smartass; MeekOneGOP; devolve


34 posted on 03/25/2005 7:37:06 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: All
STARVATION: DAY 8
Bush brothers urged to intervene Call for police to take Terri into protective custody

Posted: March 23, 2005

12:50 p.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com Religious and political groups are banding together to urge President Bush and his brother Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to use their executive powers to order police to take Terri Schiavo into protective custody.

Calling itself "The 11th Hour Coalition to Save Terri Schiavo's Life," the 20 organizations held simultaneous press conferences in Washington, D.C., and Tallahassee, Fla., arguing the president and governor have the power to order reinsertion of the brain-injured woman's feeding tube, which was removed Friday by court order.

Bush brothers urged to intervene Call for police to take Terri into protective custody

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jeb Bush can save Terri and win the presidency

Posted: March 23, 2005

11:15 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Terri Schindler-Schiavo is a brain-damaged woman being denied her right to life. She does not deserve a painful execution we wouldn't even subject our dogs or criminals to . If Florida's Gov. Jeb Bush will exercise the authority available to him now - and required of him - to save Terri, he will ensure a victorious run for the White House in 2008.

Section 2 of the constitution of the state of Florida states :

All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty ... No person shall be deprived of any right because of ... physical disability.

Jeb Bush has all the authority he needs right now to remove Terri from those who would kill her and save her life. Indeed, his oath of office requires it :

I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, protect and defend the Constitution and government of the United States and of the state of Florida ...

Jeb Bush can save Terri and win the presidency

35 posted on 03/25/2005 7:37:46 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: NorCalRepub

I think she is a witness to be brought before congress to testify 3/28. I think that Congress could do what they wish to make her be there in one piece and healthy.

IMO, either Congress comes back and goes postal on being ignored, or if the people are silent, the Congress will let this go away in the night.


36 posted on 03/25/2005 7:37:53 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Diogenesis
The US Congress tried that, and Murderer-Judge Greer micturated on the subpoena.

Indeed he did and the failure of the Congress to enforce its own subpoena must rest primarily with the gutless gerbil Frist who is in a race with Hatch to see which man can cut and run for the tall grass the most times in a session.

37 posted on 03/25/2005 7:38:28 PM PST by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: wagglebee
This is one of the main reasons why I'm against killing her.If her creep of a husband really did cause her injuries in a failed attempt to kill her then the courts are now helping him finish her off.They should have investigate every single shred of evidence pointing to the husband before they even thought of granting him his death wish.Of all the reasons for the governor to step in to save her life this one might be the most important.The list of accomplices includes lawyers and judges and other assorted lowlife scum.
38 posted on 03/25/2005 7:38:48 PM PST by rdcorso (In America Criminals Have More Rights Than The Disabled.What A Disgrace)
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To: Dubya_4ever_USA

what you just said is the same stuff that drives Al Qauda and I"m not equating you with them at all, it is just that we are also a nation of laws.....and branches of gov't that should not circumvent the other....just like we are mad as hell when an activist judge gets it in his mind that he is now a legislator and can make new laws...


39 posted on 03/25/2005 7:39:03 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: yankeedog; winchester73

so are you advocating chaos now?......since one man's tyranny is another man's freedom.......ask bin Laden.....we are a nation of laws....you can't run rough shod over them or society will be in worse shape then some here think it is already.....stormin' the castle at this point does not seem like a good option.....or legal one


40 posted on 03/25/2005 7:42:10 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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