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U.S. Orders Rudder Inspections on Some Airbus Planes (A300's and A310's)
Reuters ^ | March 25, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 03/25/2005 11:35:26 AM PST by COEXERJ145

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. aviation regulators on Friday ordered detailed rudder inspections and repairs, if necessary, of certain Airbus planes after the rudder of a Canadian passenger jet nearly fell off this month. The Federal Aviation Administration wants operators of the 112 European-made Airbus A310s and A300s registered to U.S. carriers to complete detailed rudder inspections within three months. The planes are flown primarily in the United States by cargo giant FedEx Corp. . American Airlines also operates some A300s.

The tests include visual checks and a tap test, which is an audio analysis.

FedEx said it expected to complete inspections of its nearly 100 planes within the required time. "To date, we have seen no indication of any irregularities in our aircraft," the company said in a statement. Officials at American could not immediately be reached for comment.

French aviation regulators, in concert with the world's largest commercial plane manufacturer, issued a similar directive last week covering nearly 400 planes, including those flown by American and FedEx. The inspections are usually performed every few years.

The FAA order, which was expected after the European action, instructs operators to look for any separation or other damage to the rudder, which is made from layers of carbon-reinforced composite materials.

The directive stems from a March 6 in-flight incident in which a Canadian charter A310 lost part of its rudder. The Air Transat flight from Cuba to Quebec City with 270 people aboard returned safely to Cuba. Canadian authorities are investigating.

The U.S. National Transportation Safety Board is also monitoring the investigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aa587; airbus; rudder; transportation
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1 posted on 03/25/2005 11:35:29 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145
Down with Airbus, Up with BOEING! :P NA na NA na BOO BOO!
2 posted on 03/25/2005 11:39:16 AM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Paleo Conservative

FYI


3 posted on 03/25/2005 11:39:51 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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To: COEXERJ145

Maybe they'll reopen the 587 investigation after this one...

Maybe the inspections will prevent a reoccurrence of the "Hey, where'd my rudder/tailplane go?" problem.


4 posted on 03/25/2005 11:41:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Earlier discussion on Free Republic
5 posted on 03/25/2005 11:45:48 AM PST by yatros from flatwater (Justice, Justice, you shall pursue!)
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To: COEXERJ145

I think saying the rudder "nearly fell off" is a little bit of an understatement. See the photo:

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/c-gpat/1.jpg


6 posted on 03/25/2005 11:50:59 AM PST by MrTed
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To: MrTed
I think saying the rudder "nearly fell off" is a little bit of an understatement. See the photo:

Well, the rudder did fall off. The big concern is whether the vertical stabilizer nearly fell off.

You can land an airplane without a rudder (obviously), but it gets really tricky to land one without a vertical fin.

7 posted on 03/25/2005 11:55:49 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
You can land an airplane without a rudder (obviously), but it gets really tricky to land one without a vertical fin.

Landing an airliner without a rudder can be a might tricky in itself. They were pretty lucky, and the pilots were pretty good. If airliners did not need rudders, they would save the weight by not putting them on in the first place!

8 posted on 03/25/2005 12:01:11 PM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: MrTed
I think saying the rudder "nearly fell off" is a little bit of an understatement. See the photo:...

I still see a little piece of rudder in that photo!

9 posted on 03/25/2005 12:02:15 PM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: COEXERJ145
Its gotta be Boeing
or I'm not going.
10 posted on 03/25/2005 12:04:48 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Spktyr
Is 587 the airbus that did lose the rudder over Queens in NY?

I can't recall specifics but there have been more than two such incidents with airbuses.

And the new 380 also has a plastic vertical stabilizer.

11 posted on 03/25/2005 12:07:06 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Are 777's ok??? We are taking one to Spain..I hate to fly!


12 posted on 03/25/2005 12:14:37 PM PST by pitinkie (revenge will be sweet)
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To: gridlock
Landing an airliner without a rudder can be a might tricky in itself. They were pretty lucky, and the pilots were pretty good. If airliners did not need rudders, they would save the weight by not putting them on in the first place!

I never said they weren't needed. Didn't say it wasn't tricky. Re-read my post.

My opinion comes from discussions about rudder usage with my dad, who's a retired airline pilot with 35 years experience flying everything from Connies to 767's.

13 posted on 03/25/2005 12:22:54 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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A "Tap test"?? My life is hanging on a simple tap test? That's nuts. I was on an A320 this week sitting in 7A right next to the engine nacelle. On climb out, a sudden and loud vibration started, went away, came back and repeated a few more times. It continued through most of the flight. I was sure glad to get back down.


14 posted on 03/25/2005 12:23:33 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What is a "tap test"? Is that kind of like "knock on wood?"


15 posted on 03/25/2005 12:26:09 PM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: COEXERJ145

When are they going to replace this plastic component.

Reinforced plastics are not suited for these high stress mechanical applications.

And how ridiculous that the first crash was blamed on "over compensation" Thats like saying don't steer your car too hard or else the wheel will come off.


16 posted on 03/25/2005 12:34:30 PM PST by spanalot (Bring it On)
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To: Publius6961
Is 587 the airbus that did lose the rudder over Queens in NY?

Yes

And the new 380 also has a plastic vertical stabilizer.

Using composites it not so much the problem (the military has been flying aircraft made with composites for years) as is proper maintenance. The problem is they require very different maintenance from the normal aluminum skin of aircraft. If maintenance and inspections are not done properly, then disaster can be the result.

17 posted on 03/25/2005 12:49:17 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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To: pitinkie
Are 777's ok??? We are taking one to Spain..I hate to fly!

The Boeing 777 is probably the safest plane in the world today. I've flown a 777 with American (ORD-DFW) and enjoyed every minute of it.

18 posted on 03/25/2005 12:52:18 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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To: COEXERJ145

I took an Airbus A310 owned by EVA from Bangkok to Taipae recently and had one of the most cramped rides since I was in the service! I am only 5'8" but almost ate the seat back in front of me. The row I was in was against a divider wal and the seats did not recline although the one in front of us did. Also, the seat bottom ended about half way between the back of my buttocks and the inside of my knee. The gadgetry of their vidio, while impressive, did not make up for the discomfort of their seats. The attendents were hostile as well. I assume that was because they fielded many complaints.


19 posted on 03/25/2005 12:56:35 PM PST by JimSEA
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Well for that you can't really blame Airbus. The airlines are the ones who decide the cabin layout (seat pitch, width, etc), not the manufacturer. What probably happened was you got stuck on an aircraft that was configured for high density, short haul. A Boeing 747SR/747-400D would be just as cramped.


20 posted on 03/25/2005 12:59:46 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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