Why Jeb Bush has the power to act now

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 24, 2005 | Alan Keyes

[.30Carbine]

He is way too honest to be a politician.

Good point. Thank you for serving, grunt.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

If, as chief executive of Florida, Jeb Bush believes that starving Terri Schiavo to death is a violation of her right to life, and to defend her life, as recognized in the Florida constitution (Article I, Section 2), he has the same obligation to defend constitutional right as he would in the lynching example. Unlike the Legislature, he would not act in order to overturn or reverse the action of the judiciary, but in order positively to fulfill his obligation as chief executive, by preventing the destruction of a citizen's most basic constitutional right. Just as the courts have the initiative when it comes to deciding particular cases, the executive has the initiative when it comes to the actual defense of the constitution and the constitutional rights of the citizens.

He's right. One could add that in a case where the judiciary and the executive fail to defend citizens' most basic fundamental constitutional right, THE PEOPLE have the duty to rise up (even by force of arms) and take the initiative themselves. Just as our Founding Fathers did in the 1770s. When courts start murdering citizens, it's time to rumble, folks.

[Smartass]

[Alberta's Child]

Thanks for the ping, Victoria. That's a great point Keyes raises.

I gotta run for now, but I'll be checking in again later this evening.

[Victoria Delsoul]

See you later, AC.

[PhilDragoo]

In our Declaration of Independence, we tell King George (substitute Judge George Greer) we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life . . . that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed . . . .

I submit Job One for any government official is to secure life--Jeb heads the executive, Greer is a county swamp pissant in the judiciary; the former is in compliance, the latter should be in shackles.

Further this deponent sayeth not.

[MHGinTN]

If Jeb Bush were going to actually save Terri, he would not have ask the Greer court for permission. The judiciary is the power in Floriduh; they just told Jeb to shut and sit down while they execute this woman.

I wonder, if Tom DeLay were to send Federal Marshals to Greer's door and arrest him for doing more than just ignoring their subpoena--actually taking measures to destroy the evidence/subpoenaed witness-- and Bush were to walk into that Hosepipe death shop with State Troopers and an ambulance crew to take Terri to the hospital and reinsert her food and water source, how would the rest of the rulers in black robes react in Floriduh? ... Bush is governor, but he is not the chief executive, the putrifacting Floriduh courts and judges are. 'Step aside little man, bow to the real power in Floriduh!'

[MeekOneGOP]

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[MeekOneGOP]

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[wagglebee]

BTTT!

This is very direct and on point. People need to be made aware that there are inherent powers that governors are granted under state constitutions, and they are not required to execute court orders that they deem to be unlawful.

[bitt]

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43463

[Keyes2000mt]

5,226 words. Yipes! But he's right. It's time to cross the rubicon and both Governor and President Bush have a reason to.

The Florida State Courts think they are above the Congress of the United States as to the Federal Courts. If the Brothers Bush do nothing at this key point, judicial supremacy will not be stopped.

[TomasUSMC]

The clock is ticking not only on poor Terri Schiavo, but on Jeb Bush as well.

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The clock has been ticking for over a dozen years and ole Jeb has had these exact contingency plans in his back pocket for years also. He never has had a plan to save her, just use her. He could have saved her years ago, months ago, weeks ago. He didn't and won't.

Maybe its the money. How much money is "wasted" on keeping all these thousands of patients alive, when they can't even feed themselves? Oh wait - babies can't feed themselves but eh well .... oh yeah, we kill them by the thousands everyday too.

Can you imagine if a President issued an executive order forbidding abortion, calling it murder, and took on the judiciary? He might get impeached. But at least he would have tried to stop 3000 babies everyday from becoming part of our American Holocaust.

What is life worth? 3000 lives worth? Over one million lives worth. Are they worth a Presidency?

[TomasUSMC]

In other words, if 2 of 3 branches agree on something, then ......GET ER DONE!

[dwills]

hell, as outraged as i am about shoddy treatment the schindlers (including terri) have gotten from the schiavos, their lawyers, the courts and the media, anyone bashing the bushes' efforts to bring attention to the case and have it reversed will get to share it

since i only have a finite amount of outrage, the stupidity of the holier-than-thou bush-bashers are detracting from sentiment in favor of terri

i wonder if bush achieving his lowest popular approval ever, as a result of his efforts to save terri, is a function of his activism frightening ill-informed moderates or the ingratitude of pro-lifers that he didn't pull an elian gonzales-style raid on the hospice

[livius]

The real power in the entire US is in the judiciary.

I read, btw, that Bush was sending a DCF team to pick up Terri, but the local sheriff and police announced that unless the DCF had an order from Greer, they wouldn't let them in. (As in they would shoot to keep them out.)

I think Bush was right not to risk the lives of the DCF people (something Janet Reno didn't worry about when she seized Elian, but then, why should a mass murderer like Janet be concerned about killing a few more Americans). But it tells you something very serious if the police forces are more responsible to the judiciary than to the executive.

[Texas Deb]

Maybe Gov. Bush is contemplating how many innocent lives will be put at risk if he tries to rescue Terri.

The courts have set up a nightmare scenario, and as wonderful as it sounds to just go in and get Terri (whether legal or not) and take her out, the reality is the police are under a court order by Judge Greer - one upheld by the Supreme Court of Florida - to not let Gov. Bush and his people in - I assume that means by deadly force if necessary. Isn't it also Gov. Bush's obligation to consider the possible loss of innocent lives who might be killed in a showdown, as a real shootout is possible? With all the protestors and newpeople standing around, as well as the DCF workers who would be trying to seize Terri, not to mention the law enforcement personnel on both sides, this could be a real nightmare, with no guarantee of saving Terri. And, if innocent lives were lost in this possible confrontation, whose hands would the blood of those innocent people be on? Jeb Bush's, of course, as he is the one who would be in contempt of court.

[SeasideSparrow]

I used to fervently debate Bush bashers and I voted for the president so I know where some of you are coming from to a degree.

BUT.

People, it's time to wake up.

Saying that Jeb Bush could not do anything as governor of his state or that President Bush cannot act on this as president of this country is really dumbing this issue down severely.

I do not mean to personally insult anyone here, so please do not take my words that way. But some here need to read the facts. We can haggle all day on this board and waste time disagreeing, but if you do your homework by educating yourself - you'll find the answers:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43472

You can click below to read -- AND USE -- the five legal
briefs that explain to Gov. Jeb Bush that he has the legal
authority to save Terri Schiavo:

http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_2.htm

http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_3.htm

http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_4.htm

http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_5.htm

http://www.societyfortruthandjustice.com/new_page_6.htm

To imply that either of these men could not handle this situation without allowing others to get hurt - is ludicrous. Sure, if they bungled this someone could get hurt, but if they act constitutionally and professionally then proper action can be taken effectively.

The real problem is that because they are not using their constitutionally derived executive authority a woman IS most definitively suffering through one of the most gruesome deaths imaginable. This morning Fox News reported that her tongue and eyes are bleeding. Yesterday her mother had to leave the room she was so terrified at what she saw.

How can a president and a governor holding full authority to deal with this - sit back and allow it?

THAT is the question people need to be asking.

[MHGinTN]

had the executive sent his people in with DCF BEFORE going to Greer to ask his permission, the entire scenario would be different and Terri could have been saved. Bush has not shown leadership quality, merely posturing.