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To: sheana
"It has highlighted judicial tyranny in the good ole USA and shown that all our politicians are afraid of the judges.:"

Let's see, the Courts render judgments based on Florida law as written and enacted by the legislature rather than acting on their own and adjudicating the case based on how they feel about the law (which is what most people want them to do) but you call it "Judicial tyranny"?

What's truly pathetic is the abysmal ignorance of the way our legal system, and our government functions displayed by most citizens in this nation.

62 posted on 03/24/2005 7:34:47 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

It is judicial tyranny to not apply the federal statute that was just passed, and judicial tyranny to order sheriff's to block the executive branch of Florida from enforcing Florida law re removal of Terri.


71 posted on 03/24/2005 7:36:12 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: Luis Gonzalez

i know many legal scholars, among them Mark Levin, who are strong believers that judicial tyranny exists and runs rampant. do not paint those that disagree with you as ignorant.


74 posted on 03/24/2005 7:36:27 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Isn't it amazing- when the judges actually rule as the law says they must instead of interjecting personal feelings and emotions they call it activism.

go figure.


82 posted on 03/24/2005 7:37:27 AM PST by ThinkingMan
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I understand your position, but it is not really that simple. Judge Greer has, among other things, ignored a Congressional Supoena, said the legislature had no business getting involved in judicial proceedings, and overstepped his authority by issuing and injunction against the DCF. The judicary in this country is out of control.


96 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:12 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Actually even the best designed government may from time to time be taken over by socio-psychopaths.

It's up to the normal people to then remove them from power. This business of Judge Greer ordering the sheriffs to do anything clearly indicates he's no longer living in the real world. Odds are more than half of them would just as soon shoot the judge as to look at him. The best course of action in that case is to avoid calling their attention to you.

103 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What's truly pathetic is this selective faith in our legal system and sanctimonious pontificating about the rule of law.

When the same United States Supreme Court that wrote a Constitutional right to anal sex into U.S. law refuses to take on a case like this with major life-and-death implications, I'd say the U.S. Supreme Court has no legitimate reason to exist.

I've just cancelled the Florida trip I planned for later this year, and as Freepers are my witness I will say that I'll take a vacation in Fallujah before I ever set foot in that state again.

115 posted on 03/24/2005 7:41:18 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Hey, it's much better to enact laws based on an emotional response. That way, whenever we feel like it, we can change the way things work.

And if it doesn't work in our favor, we can have a riot.

(at least that seems to be what I am hearing here)

While Terri's plight is tragic and sad, she will soon be at peace. Like it or not, she will be better off in Heaven than here on earth in her current state.


130 posted on 03/24/2005 7:43:24 AM PST by gruffwolf
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To: Luis Gonzalez; dennisw
Let's see, the Courts render judgments based on Florida law as written and enacted by the legislature rather than acting on their own and adjudicating the case based on how they feel about the law (which is what most people want them to do) but you call it "Judicial tyranny"?

That's debatable. dennisw has an excellent compilation of Greer's violations of FL law in this case. And there's an online petition to impeach Greer - largely ineffective I know, but the point is - that details them as well, citing appropriate statutes for each.

250 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:15 AM PST by agrace
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To: Luis Gonzalez

lemme see...........
You have a backwater judge who made a ruling and has defied anyone and everyone to overturn his decision.......including elected oficials who are supposed to have equal powers.
THAT is judicial tyranny!


253 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:28 AM PST by sheana
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Luis - do you believe in the 2nd Ammendment? That's all about giving us the means to throw out a tyrannical government. If the framers of the consitution didn't believe it was possible that the system could be corrupted to the point of tyranny, they wouldn't have ensured us the right to bear arms.

"the way our legal sytem functions" does not assume facts not in evidence. Corruption is rampant in Chicago politics. If that's just the way the system works in Chicago, is it any less "corrupt"?

Furthermore, Greer does not have the right to impede DCF in its state-mandated duties. You see, DCF runs as part of a system, too, that requires its own integrity, and as an extension of executive government, justice has no right to breach the separation of powers by placing an injunction on its executive mandate. That's WHOLLY corrupt!


296 posted on 03/24/2005 8:05:58 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Let's see, the Courts render judgments based on Florida law as written and enacted by the legislature rather than acting on their own and adjudicating the case based on how they feel about the law (which is what most people want them to do) but you call it "Judicial tyranny"?

Judicial tyranny is evident in the refusal of Judge Greer to admit any contrary evidence, be it from nurses who have cared for Terri or from Mayo Clinic experts, that contradict his original PVS finding of fact - which was formed on the basis of a 3-2 split in the doctors' opinions, with the deciding voice being a long-time euthanasia advocate whose videotaped 45 minute examination of Terri contradicts his conclusions.

Judicial tyranny is refusing to revisit the permanent award of custody to a "husband" who has abandoned his marriage, and further only conveniently "remembered" Terri's supposed wishes after securing $1.2M in a malpractice judgement to fund her therapy and treatment.

Judicial tyranny is a federal judge refusing to follow the plain meaning of a statute enacted to found a new review of the facts in the case, including the two noted above. Instead, the judge decided to perform yet another procedural review - as if checking the formula used in a math problem will find the multiplication error that caused the wrong answer to be calculated.

331 posted on 03/24/2005 8:11:09 AM PST by MortMan (CON is the opposite of PRO. Is Congress therefore the opposite of progress?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
No, what's truly pathetic is your lack of explanation of the details of this case.

Greer is guilty of judicial misconduct.

He refused relevant testimony and evidence from the defendants (Terri's parents).

He refused a second opinion from a non-court appointed neurologist (Michael's neurologist).

A neurologist for DCF and the mayo clinic has stated that there may have been a misdiagnosis. Evidence like this in a capital case would certainly result in a stay-of-execution.

This judge directly refused to obey legislation enacted specifically for this case.

This judge IS acting as a tyrant and abusing his power on the bench. Any HONEST judge would have ordered a trial de novo...ESPECIALLY since a woman's life is at risk AND this case will DEFINITELY be used as precedent in the future, whenever any spouse wants to get rid of an inconvenience.

This is without doubt and inarguably a case of judicial tyranny. This one judge, backed by other judges who are also activists, is directly flying in the face of both the executive and legislative branches, just as Jefferson predicted they would.
413 posted on 03/24/2005 8:20:57 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Let's see, the Courts render judgments based on Florida law as written and enacted by the legislature rather than acting on their own and adjudicating the case based on how they feel about the law (which is what most people want them to do)

That's the problem. If this is true, there is no need for Judges to have any schooling.

They are supposed to Judge according to the law. Not from their "feelings." That's why they go to law school.

And even if most of the people want them to make rulings from their feelings, they should follow the law instead.

821 posted on 03/24/2005 9:47:16 AM PST by Syncro
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