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Michael Schiavo Files Request With the SCOTUS, USSC Refuses to Take Schiavo Case

Posted on 03/24/2005 7:22:09 AM PST by ConservativeMan55

Edited on 03/24/2005 7:43:21 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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Michael Schiavo has filed a petition with the Supreme Court asking them to stay out of the case.


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To: PhiKapMom
Will no one on here focus on how bad her legal team has become? The Federal Judges can only rule on what is before them. Her parents legal team started off with a bad pleading and never seemed to get it right.

I'm sure these guys have made some mistakes, but you have to say they've done a great job. These guys are basically doing the same thing that the Bush v Gore lawyers did without the big guns AND with about 1/1000th of the resources. On top of that, they probably know they're never going to get paid for this.

What really frosts me though is to have someone like Jay Sekulow (from Pat Robertson's law school) be critical of the parents lawyers, yet not be in there offering his own legal skills. Where are the conservative lawyers on this?

141 posted on 03/24/2005 7:44:33 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: sarasota

"Her "husband" will have the body cremated immediately. No autopsy."

My thoughts were that Terri's family would try to prevent it. If it is demonstrated that it is physically impossible for her to be talking and conscious as they have alleged; they would suffer scorn.


142 posted on 03/24/2005 7:44:48 AM PST by BlackRain
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To: Texas Deb
So which side are you on, then? Do you think Rush's and Terri's medical records should be open, or do you think Rush's and Terri's medical records should be protected?

I'd bet good money that there are folks here who think that Rush's should be protected, but not Terri's.

143 posted on 03/24/2005 7:44:49 AM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Aquamarine

He looks very much like Scott Peterson.


144 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:07 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Alberta's Child

Good!

Too many damned liberal Northerners down here anyway.


145 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:11 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Why don't we have a storming of the hospice, led by Governor Bush, for LIFE!

I'm thinking that may be the only option.

146 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:15 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: gruffwolf
it's much better to enact laws based on an emotional response.

The commandment to feed the hungry and give drink to the thirsty is 2000 years old.

147 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:18 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: AmericanInTokyo

On Good Friday, in all likelihood.

Well, of one thing we can be sure: As on that original Rescurrection Day, even here, Almighty God will have the last Word.


148 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:33 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst." -Jesus)
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To: tomahawk
Exactly, Judge Greer does not have the legal power to prevent the executive branch from enforcing a valid law.

I don't think he has the authority to prevent illegal actions by anyone, government or not. If the Executive acts illegally then summonses are issued. And not necessarily by him regardless of the connection here. He would have to file with the Attorney Gen. of FL I would think.

149 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:56 AM PST by TigersEye (Free speech! It's not just for Democrats anymore!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ted Olsen told Laura that he wasn't shocked that SCOTUS didn't intervene, hopefully Laura will ask what the next move is regarding DCF and Jeb's executive powers in Florida.


150 posted on 03/24/2005 7:45:58 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: ConservativeMan55
According to Judge Greer, Terri has a "Right to Die", since that is her wish. However, Greer's decision may be flawed, and this is why.

1. NO wills, and certainly not a "living will". My understanding is that neither Michael, nor Terri, had a will created.

Rationale: Both Terri and Michael believed, and statistics overwhelmingly support, that they would live to an advanced age, perhaps 70+ years. There was no sense of urgency to prepare for their passing, especially at a young age.

2. NO life insurance. That is not conclusive, but can be inferred by the Schiavos' statements that Michael will reap no monetary benefit from Terri's death.

Rationale: As listed in Item 1, neither Terri, nor Michael believed they would die at a young age, hence, no urgency to prepare for either of their deaths.

3. Terri's wish. It is important to understand the context that Terri made her alleged statements, those very same statements that are used as the basis to withhold her sustenance.

Rationale: Terri was responding to the recent death of the Schiavo's mother or grandmother. This woman was: a) elderly b) terminal (dying from cancer) c) apparently, in a great deal of pain d) being kept alive by extraordinary means (respirator). In fact, I believe she died within a day of the respirator being pulled.

It was immediately following this unfortunate event that Terri indicated something similar to the fact, "that she would never want to be kept alive in that manner".

It could be argued and should have been considered that Terri's "frame of reference" was envisioning herself at an advanced age, in a condition similar to the Schiavo relative. In a similar circumstance, she would never want to be kept alive

Her capacity, and Michael's, to envision either one of them dying or becoming incapacitated at a young age, did not exist, as evidenced by actions (inaction) related to their wills and insurance. Her statements occured when she was approx. 23 or 24 years of age, and it can be argued that she could not foresee herself being in the tragic state that befell her at 26 years of age.

There should have been enough doubt about the intent of her statement to rule on the side of life.

151 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:06 AM PST by Jersey Jim (Jersey really is a nice place..........well, maybe not)
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To: Defiant

"I'm hoping there's some way he can order them to stand down before he sends in the state police, the way the President can nationalize the National Guard."

It's not going to happen. Terri will die, people will not get outraged.. Don't you know the almighty polls are saying that the majority didn't want congress intervening and agree with Terri's "right to die." People will forget and this will just be the grand entrance of euthanasia in the U.S, without a peep from the people.



152 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:16 AM PST by Jennifer in Florida
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To: Raycpa

"God has hardened many judges hearts in this."

Like he did Pharoah's so He could use him as an example to demonstrate His power.


153 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:19 AM PST by DarthVader (John "Diarrhea of the Mouth" Kerry = Vile Smelling Excrement)
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To: MplsSteve

judge greer has signed off on mike request to cremated her .
she is catholic , not a godd thing.


154 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:30 AM PST by BurtTpa
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To: traderrob6

Good for Turley. He's a smart cookie.


155 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:32 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: PhiKapMom
Why don't you focus on the pleading of her incomepent attorneys -- they didn't even plead what was required? But no you people would rather slam Jeb or the President for not doing enough.

Where were the House GOP lawyers on this? They could have helped at the same time filing their own briefs, etc. The families lawyers could only do so much. They have been fighting this battle in DC, in Tallahassee, St Pete, Alanta and Tampa. Where are the pro-life lawyers on this?

156 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:43 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: traderrob6
This FR thread is no more violent than the threads on FR asking for relief when the feds were poised to go in forcefully to take Elian Gonzales, and again the Democrats poised to go in to forcefully throw the election for Bush to Gore, again in Florida. In those cases, we mobilized "Freeps".

What is it with this Florida stuff. Seems like the venue for the ultimate showdown between good and evil, between things Freepers live for and things that absolutely, overwhelmingly disgust them.

157 posted on 03/24/2005 7:46:48 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: Jennifer in Florida

It's going to be "Terri Schiavo is dead, now back to the Michael Jackson Trial."


158 posted on 03/24/2005 7:47:01 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Hey, what ever happenend to Vicky Weaver?


159 posted on 03/24/2005 7:47:45 AM PST by The Real Eddie01 (I guess it's better to be pierced by a Government bullet, than starved to death.)
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........and meanwhile, Scott Peterson is enjoying a nice breakfast overlooking the SF Bay.
160 posted on 03/24/2005 7:47:59 AM PST by FranklySpeaking (For TERRI)
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