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NEW Neurosurgeon WAS at Terri's bedside Today--says Terri is misdiagnosed
CNN 5:PM PT Anderson Cooper on | 3/23/05 | gentlestrength

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:35:31 PM PST by gentlestrength

The spiritual advisor of the Schindlers, Bro. O'Donnell, said the Dept. of Children and Families has had a new physician examine Terri and that "he DID go into her room and WAS at her side and DID observe her."

Department of Children and Families, are the department if someone is being physically abused, or the elderly, and "they have the authority" to take her into protective custody.

He continued, "what is being done to her now constitutes" that, and that DCF should "be taking her into protective custody."

Cooper: "Aren't people being taken off feeding tubes all the time?" Brother O'Donnell: "When they're DYING. But she was not dying. She could live another 20, 40 years."

"She's the only person who has been COURT ORDERED to have her tubes removed. Not 'The guardian MAY" but the guardian 'shall' remove her tubes."

CNN checked on the facticity of this last claim, and found that "There is ONLY ONE other case, Nancy Beth Cuzan in which the court ordered the tube MUST be removed."

Dr.Sanjay Gupta says if Terri is in the minimally conscious state, her eyes open spontaneously. She must do one of the following: --follow simple commands (to show she can hear and understand) --give yes or no responses


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KEYWORDS: 3nursesstories; cary; indict4insulininject; indictmichael; indictonnursestory; indictonpolicereport; newevidence; policereportfiled; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Trust but Verify

Nor a P.E.T. or CAT scan, they want her dead and I want to know what Greer gets for doing this.


61 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:18 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Trust but Verify
Well, what kind of doctor makes a diagnosis after spending 90 minutes with a patient?

That's 45 minutes more than the doctor who Greer used to say that Terri was pvs, who I might add is also in the death movement with Felos. He even claimed that people who were pvs didn't have any constitutional rights last night on Hannity & Colmes.

62 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:31 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Texas Eagle

I'd say that's a very honest feeling. You made me laugh for a moment! I needed that today!


63 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:51 PM PST by queenkathy
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To: Nick Danger

I am very afraid she will die before they get this in motio. What are they waiting for????


64 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:51 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: BluH2o

"four" court appointed doctors have announced she's PVS.
But there are "fourteen" doctors who cared for Teri saying all along what this woman needed was rehabilation services to improve. Michael Schavio for some strange reason had the power to tell the hospital/nursing homes she is to be denied these services from day one.

Michael goes to court in 1990-1991 to plead money for malpractice and receive it for Teri's rehabilation. Then after he receives it refuses the money be used that way and instead tells everyone she wants to die.

Whether Teri dies or not, her body should not be cremated as Michael has wanted since 1993 or earlier. An autopsy should be made to verify the findings of other doctors who noticed that Teri had a broken neck and that this seems to be the cause of her 1990 injury. Other doctors noticed broken ribs and signs of strangulation and concluded that this woman has suffered trauma.

Michael Schavio has friends in the Sheriffs department so for some reason none of these findings are being investigated including the one where the nurse complained the Michael went into Teri's room and administered insulin into her arms, groin, and breast causing her blood levels to go crazy. This nurse reported this to the police and nothing gets done. Instead she and another nurse have been fired for contacting the police.


65 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:01 PM PST by annajones (Michael Schavio needs to be investigated)
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To: Peach

Her guardians are not neurologists. And her parents simply believed what they were told by docs.

She feels pain, why do they give her pain meds for cramps. She responds to her mother with a smile. She is said to have uttered words prior to her neglect. There were 2 out of 5 docs who disagreed with the original diagnosis and 40 % of the time the diagnosis is unreliable. There is poor interrater reliability of the diagnosis, reasonable docs disagree. That is poor grounds for saying that she is a dead woman.

Look at her, no way can you say that woman is dead. And that is after 10 years of neglect, being in a room with no stimuli, no therapy, no love. Gee, I would be in the same shape.

MS is a psychopath who has intimidated all around him. Her best interests are not the same as his.


66 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:02 PM PST by cajungirl (l)
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To: Trust but Verify

Trust but Verify, sorry, I though that reply was to me.


67 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:22 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Irene Adler

motion


68 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:44 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: BluH2o

Do you understand WHO CHOSE the doctors that diagnosed her?
The ONLY doctor allowed to evaluate her who wasn't chosen by Michael or the judge,and who spent the most amount of time with her, gave a diagnosis THEN very similar to what you're hearing doctor's say who are speaking out now.
A noted neurologist quoted in the Wall St Journal today, was shocked and said that it was CRIMINAL that no one has performed a PET scan on her.

BTW - You don't think people can go for 15yrs being misdiagnosed? You don't read very much. You certainly don't read medical literature. It happens all the time. And is written about in medical literature all the time.
It's Not uncommon.


69 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:47 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: justshe

Do you get the feeling that Felos and this Judge are hiding a lot? No judge is going out on a limb like this unless he is in on a scam or is being blackmailed IMHO. Felos IMHO is calling the shots so what is he hiding about this hospice.

Understand the Federal Court because the pleadings there took the wrong track. What I don't understand is ordering the removal of the feeding tube and not allowing her to be fed by mouth including water.

Makes no sense unless they are covering up something much larger then just Terri. Why risk all this publicity? Why take the husband's word as gospel?


70 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: Peach
So work to change legislation so we can keep people alive on machines and feeding tubes indefinitely.

The HINO put her on the tube to save money, she was eating fine. She could eat just fine all over again if the HINO hadn't barred physical therapy. There's nothing in current law that prevents her being left alive. Only the obstinate, murderous selfishness of the HINO and the psychotic power-play of Greer are preventing that.

71 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:07 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Irene Adler
Amen, sis!

Release the cold-blooded murderers in Guantanamo Bay! Crucify Terri Schiavo!

72 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:12 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: freecopper01

Is it true love if you have to clench your teeth?


73 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:13 PM PST by queenkathy
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
"So you believe in the infallibility of doctors, huh?"

Well, I sure as oats have no belief in the infallibility of the Justices in our Judicial system.

74 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:24 PM PST by sofaman
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To: Trust but Verify

Well, apparently you do actually know it all after all, so no need wasting my time conversing with you any longer.

Prayers for Terri.


75 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:14 PM PST by woollyone (Li'l fleas got tiny fleas up'n their backs 2 bite'em/Tiny fleas got tinier fleas & so on adinfinitum)
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To: Trust but Verify

"Well, what kind of doctor makes a diagnosis after spending 90 minutes with a patient?"

My guess is just about any of them for most cases like this. It isn't rocket sience.


76 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:18 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: jla

Wonder if her testimony was part of the new information that has come to light to DCF? Someone made that call three weeks ago to launch this investigation.


77 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: Petronski

Terry couldn't eat in the HOSPITAL, for crying out loud.

Have you ever read even ONE court document?

The fallacies surrounding this case have gotten into people's DNA or something. I've never seen Freepers this ignorant. You used to all do research and read. Well, read, dammit. Read court documents and transcripts. Do you want the links?


78 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:58 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Petronski
Ok, hey, that's a great idea. Let's move her and take her in and give her BRAIN surgery. Let's not even think about what may happen when they try to remove something that's been inside her BRAIN for a dozen years or more!

Heck, so what if it kills her? At least we didn't let MICHAEL kill her.

79 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:58 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: justshe
I have no facts. But there are many suppositions circulating. I really don't know what he has to gain. I'm betting we will one day know.

Should Terri die and if Judge Greer financially gains from murdering Terri, his decision sas a judge in court dealing with Terri are no longer protected by law and he can be charged with her murder.

80 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:59 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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