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NEW Neurosurgeon WAS at Terri's bedside Today--says Terri is misdiagnosed
CNN 5:PM PT Anderson Cooper on | 3/23/05 | gentlestrength

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:35:31 PM PST by gentlestrength

The spiritual advisor of the Schindlers, Bro. O'Donnell, said the Dept. of Children and Families has had a new physician examine Terri and that "he DID go into her room and WAS at her side and DID observe her."

Department of Children and Families, are the department if someone is being physically abused, or the elderly, and "they have the authority" to take her into protective custody.

He continued, "what is being done to her now constitutes" that, and that DCF should "be taking her into protective custody."

Cooper: "Aren't people being taken off feeding tubes all the time?" Brother O'Donnell: "When they're DYING. But she was not dying. She could live another 20, 40 years."

"She's the only person who has been COURT ORDERED to have her tubes removed. Not 'The guardian MAY" but the guardian 'shall' remove her tubes."

CNN checked on the facticity of this last claim, and found that "There is ONLY ONE other case, Nancy Beth Cuzan in which the court ordered the tube MUST be removed."

Dr.Sanjay Gupta says if Terri is in the minimally conscious state, her eyes open spontaneously. She must do one of the following: --follow simple commands (to show she can hear and understand) --give yes or no responses


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To: Axenolith

I am with you -- this is much bigger than Terri and the husband is in it up to his neck. Only explanation for the judge's irrational ruling to starve someone to death.


221 posted on 03/23/2005 6:45:21 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: Xenalyte; freecopper01; unfortunately a bluestater; glowworm; GarySpFc; Axenolith; mommadooo3; ...
He's doing a favor for a friend. George Felos has been a huge contributor to his campaigns.

WE HAVE A SMOKING GUN AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!!

George Felos, owner of the hospice Terri is in, was a major contributor to Judge Greer's political campaigns.

Thank you Xenalyte.

222 posted on 03/23/2005 6:46:12 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Xenalyte

LOL!!! In all of this, you made me burst out laughing -- so true!


223 posted on 03/23/2005 6:46:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: GopherIt
" Unless you are medically trained AND have read this,"

Well I read the statement, it was very interesting. The fact she was deprived of oxygen to her brain for 40 minutes. Wow. Having read it, it sounds legitimate and he sounds qualified.

Also having said that, I am thinking, what would I do if my wife were as he described, ie in Terris situation?

In my view, she is not coming back, she will get no better, too much brain matter has been destroyed. If she has any cognitive thoughts, I would actually feel worse if it were my wife in that situation. I could actually see myself fighting to let her die rather than being tortured by being trapped in that body. I know I would rather die in her situation especially if I had any conception of my situation.

I may actually start to understand Michael's motivations assuming he truly loves her. I know many will dismiss that. I simply don't know what is in his heart and neither do you.

224 posted on 03/23/2005 6:46:28 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: meandog

Al Sharpton also said that he was against starving and dehydrating her.


225 posted on 03/23/2005 6:46:28 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: Xenalyte

Give me a link to the document. I'll wait.


226 posted on 03/23/2005 6:46:37 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Last night I saw Mort Kondrake repeating the line about how blissful and euphoric death by starvation really is (he "has read up on it"). I know about his wife's situation and I know they were faced with the issue, but I was a little stunned that Mort couldn't discern the difference between cessation of eating due to terminal illness and diseased tissue vs. withholding food and water from an otherwise healthy, non-dying body.


227 posted on 03/23/2005 6:47:27 PM PST by workerbee
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To: Peach

If you or I had been without nutrition and hydration for 5, nearly 6, days, it is doubtful that we would be able to communicate effectively either. Considering Terri's disability, the fact that she has been without food and water for such a long period of time, AND considering she may be receiving morphine, I don't find the physician's statement surprising at all.


228 posted on 03/23/2005 6:47:32 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Xenalyte

Xena, don't you know? If it's not in the court documents, it CAN'T be true. Greer's court is OMNISCIENT! Greer is the alpha and omega, donchaknow.


229 posted on 03/23/2005 6:47:41 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Xenalyte
"No judge is going out on a limb like this unless he is in on a scam or is being blackmailed"

"Now, don't be so quick to judge. He could just be on the take."

"Could it beeeeeeeeeeee... SATAN"??

230 posted on 03/23/2005 6:48:29 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: bboop

Please, take it down a notch. We both have the same God. You refer to "MY GOD"....and use that as a club against me. Please, that isn't necessary.

And we were referring to Matthew 5:43-48 when Jesus taught:

43 You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’

44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?

47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?

48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

And how tough that can be. No need to create a quarrel, bboop, when none exists, ok? We all want justice.


231 posted on 03/23/2005 6:48:51 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor; eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: Peach
The "new" doctor was in the room for 90 minutes, during that time Terri did not exhibit any sounds, no eye movement, no recognition -- nothing.

She'd been deprived of food and water for five days. What the hell do you expect?

That's a dispicable halftruth. You should be ashamed.

232 posted on 03/23/2005 6:49:10 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

"What does Judge Greer personally gain by Terri being murdered?"

MS and Greer have "marriage of convenience". At the very least MS no longer wants to care for Terri and may very well have caused her condition at the most. Greer has a right-to-die ideaology. They were drawn together by their own circumstances.


233 posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:10 PM PST by truthluva
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To: Petronski

Anyone just see the exchange on Fox between Hannity and Moran. Wow. Hannity backed him into a corner and fragged him.


234 posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:10 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Texas Eagle
I don't feel like praying for Terri's enemies. I want them to burn in Hell.

We MUST pray for our enemies. Feed them and give them drink even. Jesus died so our enemies would not HAVE to go to hell just as He did for us.

235 posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:34 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Petronski

"metal stimulator implanted in her brain"

What is it's purpose?


236 posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:52 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: Texas Eagle
It is becoming more and more clear to me that the people who want Terri dead are the ones whose hearts have stopped.

They have to have hearts in order for their hearts to stop.

I keep praying for them to develop a shred of humanity--unfortunately, it doesn't seem likely at this point.

237 posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:56 PM PST by exDemMom (Euthanasia, NO WAY. Youth in Asia, OF COURSE.)
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To: PhiKapMom

You have it exactly right. As I posted on another thread, I'm a criminal defense lawyer, former prosecutor, and I think I have a pretty good sense of criminal conspiracy when I see one. If Terri is allowed to live, receive therapy, recovers and talks, heads will really roll -- lots of them. Greer will be damn lucky to escape with losing his job and a judicial misconduct investigation. That Frankenstein's monster Schiavo will be prosecuted for and convicted of attempted murder. Greer is obviously insane. I see it all the time - formerly nice, down-to-earth people become judges (not saying Greer ever was this) and go crazy.


238 posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:59 PM PST by nimbysrule
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To: Havoc

i saw it, it is so easy to push Moran's buttons, i thought for sure he was going to start swinging at someone, sean had him so riled up.


239 posted on 03/23/2005 6:51:33 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Petronski

I'm reporting ABC which read from the doctor's report. If you don't like it, take it up with ABC. It's on their web site right now I'll bet.


240 posted on 03/23/2005 6:51:48 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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