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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Edmund Burke

He ignored statutes that would have told him that Michael was an unfit guardian.


301 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: mewzilla

As I said on another thread.. I believe the case will go on way beyond her possible death. She has already exposed the height of corruption that condems her and it is ugly and there are many linkages.. Save Terri..


302 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:07 PM PST by glowworm ( Rats and rat behavior, a rat is a rat is a rat..)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Wonder if Greer has received any, er...campaign contributions from Schiavo?

Inquiring minds want to know...

303 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:16 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: kcvl
That should tell us that he is damned and determined to see that Terri dies no matter what evidence there is of being wrongly diagnosed!

He's no follower of MY GOD.

304 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MTMS
GHOULAGG: bwahahahahaha, I could and I did
305 posted on 03/23/2005 3:37:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: CedarDave

DCF is responsible for any action taking Terri into protective custody. They don't act at the Governor's behest.


306 posted on 03/23/2005 3:37:12 PM PST by Chunga
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To: JustaCowgirl

I've got a couple of Jewish neighbors that I'd like to get rid of tomorrow. Any suggestions?


307 posted on 03/23/2005 3:37:12 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: MTMS
Now what?

I'm not a lawyer.....but I can ONLY assume Jeb Bush, as Governor, can OVERRULE.

308 posted on 03/23/2005 3:37:21 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: gopwinsin04

Judge Greer has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!


309 posted on 03/23/2005 3:37:28 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: nicmarlo
He's no follower of MY GOD.

But he may be a follower of Mammon.

310 posted on 03/23/2005 3:37:52 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: nicmarlo
If the DCF forces this showdown, there is little doubt in my mind that the Florida Supreme Court will quickly rule that it is an unconstitutional invasion of the separation of powers, just as they did with Terri's Law. They could hardly rule otherwise. The US Supreme Court basically backed them up by refusing to hear the appeal of that previous ruling.

I don't know what happens at that point. If the executive branch, and presumably the legislative branch, are free to ignore court rulings, then the Rule of Law has been greatly weakened.

Maybe that's a good thing because the judiciary has become too powerful. But maybe it will lead to chaos. Governors and Presidents can do whatever the heck they want without anyone having any recourse. And if they can flaunt the laws and judicial decrees without any fear, why can't the people?

I dunno, I think this has consequences far beyond Terri, and Jeb Bush had better think about it before he does it.

311 posted on 03/23/2005 3:38:00 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: nicmarlo

Okay, that makes sense. Thank you for the answer...so there may still be hope that she can be taken into state custody...or some safer custody.


312 posted on 03/23/2005 3:38:20 PM PST by MTMS
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To: Jimmyclyde

"Over 20 judges have said that it was not Terri's wish to remain in that pathetic state."

That's inaccurate. Michael, his brother and his brother's wife said that. Less than 20 judges said, "Well, if you say so".


313 posted on 03/23/2005 3:38:47 PM PST by truthluva
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To: Dog Gone

There have been LAWS BROKEN by Greer which would NULLIFY Greer's orders.


314 posted on 03/23/2005 3:39:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dog Gone

The consequences are there, and just as bad if they don't act.


315 posted on 03/23/2005 3:39:36 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: conserv13

In 1821, Jefferson Wrote:

The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in...the federal judiciary; an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped from the States.

Jefferson knew how dangerous the judiciary was.


316 posted on 03/23/2005 3:39:58 PM PST by Cherokee Conservative (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary - Jefferson)
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To: nicmarlo
On radio: GREER ORDERED INJUNCTION AGAINST DCF FROM TAKING TERRI INTO CUSTODY

I don't believe he has the authority to order the executive branch around like that.

317 posted on 03/23/2005 3:40:33 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: CedarDave

Right. You protested. At what cost?

Their political futures, their financial stakes, their reputations-everything has been staked on Terri. You have not made these sacrifices.

Jeb Bush has EARNED my respect no matter the outcome.


318 posted on 03/23/2005 3:40:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Dog Gone
Maybe that's a good thing because the judiciary has become too powerful. But maybe it will lead to chaos.

Well, it's already leading to murder.

I'll take the chaos, thank you.

319 posted on 03/23/2005 3:40:40 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Modernman

I guess you are the anti-Terri side.You are so brave probably sitting their with your 4 course meal in front of you with plenty of liquid. The anti terri side tells everyone that they think handicapped people are disgusting and not worth living. You also think it is ok for an abusive husband to render his wife in that condition,sue the hospital,piss the award money away on Felos,and after you have spent the money dump her off on Hospice so you can have sex and bear two children out of wedlock while you are shacking up. You then must feel it is ok to let that same filthy degenerate 6ft7inch bully be her guardian ad litem and insist that she die. You have the potentional to be a liberal demoncrap if you are not already. I would not want you to baby sit my alligator.


320 posted on 03/23/2005 3:40:56 PM PST by samantha (relax, and cheer up the adults are in charge)
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