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Aside from killing a disabled woman, what’s the controversy?
FreeRepublic ^ | 5/23/2005 | Marvin Galloway

Posted on 03/23/2005 11:00:46 AM PST by MHGinTN

Aside from killing a disabled woman, what’s the controversy?

A cousin asked me the other day, “What’s this Terri Schiavo thing all about down in Florida?” I did my best to catch cousin up to speed on the history of the plight. While on line, a newbie at FreeRepublic cited four points over which the newbie needed confirmation or correction. I did my best to address the problems with the perspective expressed in the four points of interest as stated by the poster.

Clearly, there are different levels to this issue; this is not a simple controversy lending itself to sound byte explanations, though the mainstream media tend to over simplify and use sound byte explanations, usually tainted with the network’s bias –such as the stilted poll done by ABC, for which they received precisely the ammunition they were trolling for, rather than an honest perspective of the American people.

Let’s take a look at the controversy from a perspective other than bedside sadness.

First, there is a lengthy judicial process followed in Florida, and controversy and major dispute beginning with the power and perspective of one Judge Greer. Terri was receiving due process without complaint from any family member, until Judge Greer’s court took over dealing with the controversies. Every appeal following the Greer rulings amounted to other courts rubber stamping Greer’s actions … and therein lies the reason for the Congress of the United States finally getting involved.

That brings us to a second point of controversy, with major political ramifications. A state judge in a Florida court has order that a non-criminal severely disabled woman be put down via starvation and dehydration by ordering that the port for her feeding tube be removed … and a feeding tube is all this woman needs to continue living. [Is food and water actually artificial medical intervention?]

Last week, the United States Congress issued an oversight action authorized by the Constitution in the Third Amendment, in order to give Terri Schaivo assurance that her Fourteenth Amendment rights were not short changed in arriving at her current court ordered sentence of death by dehydration. The bill issued by Congress stated a request for a ‘de novo’ hearing of the case at Federal level. The Federal Judge who received the case chose to ignore the request and do yet again what has been done at every judicial stage in this controversy, glance at Greer’s rulings and stamp them adequate for Terri’s rights.

It is precisely the questionable nature of Greer’s rulings that caused Congress to request a Federal de novo hearing. What if Greer has a bias or new facts have come to light that indicate Terri Schiavo has not in fact received fair and balanced treatment from the court or the court has been in error due to inadequate facts? How can the wrong rulings of a judge be questioned in a process where rubber stamping passes the rulings along without honest ‘de novo’ review? Apparently, not even Third Amendment responsibility of the United States Congress can break the bias of particular court systems.

And therein is the substance of the second major controversy: how can judicial activism and rubber stamping based on political/philosophical bias be corrected, if Congress only requests without any consequences to follow when a judge such as Whittemore (the Federal appeals Judge who received the Congressional request) thumbs his nose at the Congress in their Constitutionally authorized oversight of the judiciary?

Terri Schiavo is not going to be saved from death by dehydration through a conflict between the Legislative and the Judiciary. As things are now progressing, Terri will be dead before the controversy could be resolved. And therein is the substance of a third controversy: what’s the damn hurry to execute Terri Schiavo before full de novo hearing can be accomplished? Is it so outlandish to consider that Judge Greer has a bias that has prevented Terri from receiving fair and balance justice? If a de novo hearing concludes that all court rulings have been sound, without new information changing anything of the findings of fact and promotion of truth, Terri isn’t going to flee to some other jurisdiction and thus be beyond the judge executing her after further review. What’s the hurry to put her down without actual Federal de novo hearing?

And therein lies the fourth controversy: political forces are thrashing the issues around for political empowerment; one force with a heavy bias toward granting to one person the right to kill another alive, sensing human being feels their rite, er excuse me, their right is threatened by de novo review that potentially could change the now obvious destiny of an inconvenient human being; Terri, if granted a fair and thorough review, just might get a stay of execution and then be given therapy that would improve her interactions with her environment, and thus embarrass the faction pushing for this inconvenient human to be put down. Surely the other faction, the one wishing to value even the life of a severely disabled woman, realized that further review might confirm what are already the findings, so that faction was willing to risk the ridicule inevitable from the liberal media in their water-carrying for the other political faction.

So how honest is the faction now demanding that Terri be put down and cremated immediately, without a final de novo hearing? And how cold, political, calculating, and stark is the wrong committed by a Federal judge ignoring the oversight request from the Congress of the United States, to yet again rubber stamp the rubber stamps forwarded up from his fellow Florida Judges?

This truly is an historic controversy, but it remains to be seen if the Congress has the loyalty to our Constitution that would follow through in settling judicial tyranny that is killing one severely disabled woman in Florida.


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KEYWORDS: denovohearing; schiavo; terri; terrihysteria; terrischiavo
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To: MHGinTN; tallhappy

I like to think of this whole thing in, of all things, Star Trek terms. In Star Trek, as of the 23rd century, the World had suffered in the past through the Eugenics Wars, and the Eugenicists had been defeated. In the Star Trek scenario, there is an amazing capability to renew and reconstruct the human body, and curing, healing and improvement are the norm. There is no evidence of abortion or euthanasia. Contrast all this with the current apparent direction in the Western World. My only question is, are the future Eugenics Wars going to be part of the next great powers conflict, or, will they occur after it? I certainly believe that the Eugenics Wars are inevitable, if we do not change course soon.


41 posted on 03/23/2005 11:32:32 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: goldstategop
It seems to me that the Courts are doing what the Courts do even if the results do not meet with your personal approval.
42 posted on 03/23/2005 11:32:32 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; Mr. Silverback; Caleb1411; Romulus; logos; Alamo-Girl; Joe 6-pack; ...

Ping


43 posted on 03/23/2005 11:32:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: rottrikhan; Admin Moderator

FYI. Signed up today.


44 posted on 03/23/2005 11:34:04 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Fudd Fan
I pray for Terri's soul.

I think her soul is just fine. It's pure and that of a martyr's. What she's going through just earned her a special place in Heaven.

It's America's collective soul that we need to be praying for.

45 posted on 03/23/2005 11:34:14 AM PST by independentgrrl (The epidemy of the left is institutionalized covetousness.)
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To: truthseeker2; nickcarraway; narses; Canticle_of_Deborah; Calpernia

Ping


46 posted on 03/23/2005 11:34:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: rottrikhan

Forgot to welcome you to Free Republic!


47 posted on 03/23/2005 11:34:27 AM PST by tertiary01 (Terri---allowed to live by the Court of Public Opinion, which is tougher than any court of law)
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To: Fudd Fan

Do you have an Advance Directive?


48 posted on 03/23/2005 11:35:46 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: rottrikhan

Your arrogance is exceeded only by your ignorance.


50 posted on 03/23/2005 11:36:02 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: rottrikhan
After noticing that my new borns were unable to ask for food, walk to the table, sit down, pick up forks and spoons, I decided that I must breast feed them (artificial survival process) as their brains were not functioning at the level that they knew how to chew any other kind of food.

Who'd have thought that we would be refer to allowing sick and disabled help in ingesting food, would ever become to be known as "artifical survival process."

rottrikhan, why don't you crawl back to whatever planet (or DNC fundraiser) you came from.

51 posted on 03/23/2005 11:36:51 AM PST by zerosix
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To: GloriaJane

People who were there and saw these things respect the sanctity of human life.


52 posted on 03/23/2005 11:37:02 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Quix; Fred; supercat; jwalsh07

ping


53 posted on 03/23/2005 11:37:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: GloriaJane

Could be your arm pits. lol


54 posted on 03/23/2005 11:37:42 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: MHGinTN

Here's an interesting story.

The execution was halted late Tuesday by U.S. District Judge Terry Means in Fort Worth.

Means was acting on an appeal from Staley's lawyer who argued the convicted killer is mentally incompetent and should not be put to death.

"Judge Means' order was that nobody's ever heard this guy's competency question," attorney Jack Strickland said.



the convicted killer is mentally incompetent and should not be put to death.

Terri is being put to death because she is mentally incompetent.


55 posted on 03/23/2005 11:37:46 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: rottrikhan

Who else do you want to euthanize.


56 posted on 03/23/2005 11:38:07 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: holdmuhbeer

If you don't want to participate go elsewhere.

What is the point of showing up just to throw mud?


57 posted on 03/23/2005 11:41:18 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: rottrikhan

rottrikhan,

Over the past few years babies have been left to die of exposure and [possiblly] starvation.

Now, you may refer to being fed as an "artifical surving process," - you may even be of the mind that the artifical survival process may be painless, peaceful and full of dignity, but:

1. Do you think the baby minded? What do you think the baby did? Cry because it was hungry and thirsty, or just went to sleep quietly and at peace when it wasn't fed?

and

2. Since no one actually 'killed' them, and the process of living naturally caused the babies to cease functioning, do you think the people who gave the babies a chance to live the survival process in such a manner were wrongly accused of causing the deaths of the baby?

Just carrying a thought process out.

Before you go off, it'd be nice if you could at least answer the questions.


I'll be up front with my views on those babies and how it relates to Terri.

They were abandoned, left to die because the people responsible felt they were trash.

They should be in jail for a very long time.

Just because a bunch of men and women may say something is legal doesn't make it right.

Terri's not trash.


58 posted on 03/23/2005 11:41:42 AM PST by freecopper01 (" The amount of people who are making fun of a blueprint for genocide is an alarming thing.")
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To: TASMANIANRED

Great seal!! Sadly, maybe abortion and euthanasia are the fix the dem's want for social security.


59 posted on 03/23/2005 11:41:55 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: verity

(Singing) Shower to Shower each day helps keep the Trolls away! Did you have your Shower today :)


60 posted on 03/23/2005 11:43:25 AM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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