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'Culture of death' stalks Terri Schiavo
Bucks County Courier Times ^ | March 22.2005 | J.D. Mullane

Posted on 03/22/2005 12:37:06 PM PST by AliVeritas

In a video, Terri Schiavo appears pale, puffy and fragile.

Her mother, Mary Schindler, faces Terri, back to the camera from a three-quarter shot.

Mrs. Schindler lifts her left hand to caress Terri's face.

Terri smiles.

But this can't be, for we have been told that Terri Schiavo is hopelessly brain damaged and in a "persistent vegetative state" or, as one doctor who recommended starving her to death put it, in "wakeful oblivion."

Another video. It shows Terri grimacing and turning away when a doctor places a cotton swab in her mouth.

Who knew that someone in a persistent vegetative state could feel discomfort enough to react as anyone might when a swab is shoved in your face?

Terri seems wakeful, but not oblivious. Another video. Terri's eyes follow a Mylar balloon as it is moved over her, back and forth.

Huh. A profoundly brain-damaged woman who appears to have the ability to concentrate.

Oh, it's probably just a reflex.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; euthanasia; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 03/22/2005 12:37:07 PM PST by AliVeritas
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To: AliVeritas

I do believe that the Dems have come up with a plan to save social security--euthanasia.


2 posted on 03/22/2005 12:41:08 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: AliVeritas
Michael Shiavo has been coopted by and joined wholly with the culture of death. He should have long ago been removed as Terri's guardian and someone less conflicted should have replaced him...like her parents.

Then Michael should be investigated thoroughly for crimes against Terri...all the way back to her original condition because I believe this is the key to the whole matter. That this is not occurring speaks to complicity and corruption far beyond Michael's.

As to the Judges...this latest Federal Judge decision which is making the desperate appeal to the 11th Circuit by Terri's parents necessary, is just another in a long line of aborations and corruption assiociated with Terri Shiavo. Where is it written down and notoriized...that her wishes are to die of starvation or thirst if in that position...which would violate her religious beliefs which, by all accounts, she was adamant about? It's not.

As to constitutionality of the latest decision, I say it's pure, unadulterated Bravo Sierra. This Judge could easily have ruled constitutionally that she had a right to life, which trumps all of the other legaleze and mumbo-jumbo being spouted by those who support having her killed.

Common sense has fled so many of our people, even our judges. When there is the least shred of evidence, doubt or disagreement in such a situation as this, particularly amongst direct family members who are willing to lovingly care for her...you ERR ON THE SIDE OF LIFE!

Anything short of this is an abject violation of the most fundamental principles upon which this Republic was founded.

We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are the right to life...

If we as a people cast that aside, if we allow it to be cast aside, then we tread a path that will lead to our ruin, our enslavement and our destruction as a soveriegn Republic and a nation founded upon liberty and the rule of law, that law being undergirded by fundamental moral principle.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798"

Sadly, in this ruling and episode, as with many others of our day (ie. abortion) we are seeing exctly why Adams said this and are living out the negative of John Adams statement...right before our eyes. God bless those who are standing for life, against the culture of death. May the good Lord through His Spirit create a champion out of one of our leaders with the power and the courage and will and virture to take Terri into protective custody. May we as a people have the fortitude and the willingness, if neccessary, to stand boldly and resoultely on these principles against such conditions of our day.

3 posted on 03/22/2005 12:41:16 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: AliVeritas

If the media spent half the time and print saying how a fetus reacts when its brain is sucked out , or when it head is crushed by forceps ,and how a fetus reacts to music and other stimuli,as it is printing on Terri Schiavvo they would be saving not one person but thousands.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 12:42:32 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002

I agree. A 3rd trimester unborn baby probably has more brain function than Terri also.


5 posted on 03/22/2005 12:47:00 PM PST by conserv13
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To: AliVeritas
Huh. A profoundly brain-damaged woman who appears to have the ability to concentrate.

I'm not going to argue on whether she's in a vegetative state, but people in that state will appear to have such abilities. It's sort of "The light's on, but no one's home."

Michael Schiavo should have allowed independent tests done to determine whether she's in such a state. Not allowing such tests makes me question his motives more than anything else in this case.

6 posted on 03/22/2005 12:47:34 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Brilliant

BINGO!


7 posted on 03/22/2005 12:52:29 PM PST by rudyudy
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To: Jeff Head; MozartLover; Ladysmith
Our illustrious congressman, Dave Obey, from central Wisconsin, did not go back to Washington D.C. to vote, said today in Wausau, WI "Who do you want to make the choice for your loved ones? Your friendly neighborhood congressman, or the family?

So... who speaks for the rest of the family that is being ignored?

Why is Michael Shiavo given more credence than the rest of the family?

It's amazing that these same democrats who demand that parents have no right to find out if their child is pregnant,are now oh so compassionate towards the family's privacy.

These hypocrites are the Pharisees of old.

8 posted on 03/22/2005 12:53:00 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs a soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

Yes they are.


9 posted on 03/22/2005 12:56:02 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: AliVeritas

It comes down to this:

I don't want to be a customer of a business that calls her condition "as good as dead, or worse."

What next? Carve her up for meat?


10 posted on 03/22/2005 12:56:17 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Jeff Head

AMEN to that!!!


11 posted on 03/22/2005 12:56:57 PM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: AliVeritas
or, as one doctor who recommended starving her to death put it, in "wakeful oblivion."

"Wakeful oblivion" is pretty much the state liberals are in all the time.

12 posted on 03/22/2005 12:57:00 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Northern Yankee

"So... who speaks for the rest of the family that is being ignored?

"

Their attorney?


13 posted on 03/22/2005 12:58:19 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: sgtbono2002
If the media spent half the time and print saying how a fetus reacts when its brain is sucked out , or when it head is crushed by forceps ,and how a fetus reacts to music and other stimuli,as it is printing on Terri Schiavvo they would be saving not one person but thousands.

The images from this case have broken an important taboo. Up to now, we have had to take experts' word on what constitutes "brain dead." Now we see that it means "unable to win a poker hand" if that is convenient.

14 posted on 03/22/2005 12:58:30 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Northern Yankee
So... who speaks for the rest of the family that is being ignored? Why is Michael Shiavo given more credence than the rest of the family?

What part of Michael Shiavo is her legal guardian do you not understand? Are you saying that if you don't like the decision someone makes then the right thing to do is to replace them with someone that you agree with? Thats very DEMONcratic of you.

15 posted on 03/22/2005 12:59:03 PM PST by Americanwolfsbrother (Arizona Population: 6 million; 4 million residents and 2 million invaders.)
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To: AliVeritas

We're all in danger. All of us.

The reason why we're paying such close attention to this case is that we recognize it could be us instead, helpless in the hands of evil-doers. If Terri dies, there's no help forthcoming for us, either.


16 posted on 03/22/2005 12:59:17 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Northern Yankee

I cannot understand how that guy gets voted in over and over again.


17 posted on 03/22/2005 1:00:21 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: eno_

I understand all the arguements. Don't agree with them all but I understand them.

What I cannot get over is this starving issue. We would not do this to a dog or mass murderer in prison.

Is Terri getting morphine or some pain killer as her body is shutting down?

There really, truly has to be a better way.


18 posted on 03/22/2005 1:01:40 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: dfwgator

We are seeing essentially the same argument we saw when Bill Clinton dallied with Monica Lewinsky: it's private. It really doesn't make any sense to argue that a man has the right to kill his wife in private any more than it made sense to argue that Clinton's escapades were still private after they were revealed for everyone to see on TV.


19 posted on 03/22/2005 1:03:43 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother
What part of Michael Shiavo is her legal guardian do you not understand?

Being a legal guardian does not give you the right to pro-actively kill them. I was my Mom's legal guardian when she was dying from Alzheimer's and my rights did not include the right to kill her. When a person becomes a ward of another they do not automatically forfeit their inalienable rights. What part of inalienable do you not understand?

20 posted on 03/22/2005 1:03:59 PM PST by chimera
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