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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD ( those who want an update and accurate on TERRI SCHIAVO STATE!
WABC radio ^ | MARCH 22, 2005

Posted on 03/22/2005 9:24:20 AM PST by restornu


Terri Brother ..................Terri early on in a hospice .................. Michael has let his wife deteriate!
Compare the early Hospice Photo

At this time Terri was able to chew and swallow and was learning to use the pararall bars to walk again...as soon as the malpactice law suit was won Michael Schiavo remember his wife wanted to die...so he would move her from one location to another every time they thought she was ready to start rehab again!

Lets try to have the same page to fight the MISLEADING OUT THERE!


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To: Peach

Do you believe all references to Nazi Germany should be off-limits when discussing euthanasia?


541 posted on 03/23/2005 6:05:00 AM PST by SerpentDove (Rush Limbaugh: "There's an actual energized enthusiasm for this woman's death out there...")
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To: Peach

Would you please answer my question,

"Why should thinking people not be allowed to discuss a case where euthanasia was implemented (Nazi Germany), and learn from it?"


542 posted on 03/23/2005 6:06:49 AM PST by SerpentDove (Rush Limbaugh: "There's an actual energized enthusiasm for this woman's death out there...")
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To: SerpentDove

I don't answer questions of people who play the Nazi card. If it's good enough for the president to ignore, it's good enough for me.


543 posted on 03/23/2005 6:11:54 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Checkmate.


544 posted on 03/23/2005 6:13:18 AM PST by SerpentDove (Rush Limbaugh: "There's an actual energized enthusiasm for this woman's death out there...")
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To: Peach
"And, btw, did you know that then Governor Bush signed legislation in Texas making it possible to remove people from life saving equipment (in many states feeding tubes are considered in that category) against the family's consent?"

This is the White House response to your accusation: From White house.gov.

McClellan being Scott McClellan, the President's press secretary. The question coming from a reporter in the gaggle.

"Q Scott, you may remember this from your Texas days. A member of Congress in Florida, Deborah Wasserman Schultz, got on the floor yesterday and said that the President, when he was Texas Governor, signed a piece of legislation into law that, she said, would allow -- when there's a dispute, would allow a feeding tube to be removed and that -- she was a little bit murky on exactly what the law was, but, essentially, she was saying that the President signed something into law that's contradictory to what he is doing now.

MR. McCLELLAN: That's absolutely incorrect. The legislation he signed is consistent with his views. You know, this is a complex case and I don't think such uninformed accusations offer any constructive ways to address this matter. The legislation that he signed into law actually provided new protections for patients. He had previously vetoed legislation in 1997, when he was Governor, which essentially would have sanctioned current law in Texas that allowed hospitals to stop providing life-sustaining treatment -- because under Texas law, prior to the passage of the '99 legislation that he signed, there were no protections. And so this legislation was supported by many; it enjoyed strong bipartisan support; concerned citizens, various groups came together to support this legislation and put in place new protections for patients.

The legislation was there to help ensure that actions were being taken that were in accordance with the wishes of the patient or the patient's family. And let me give you an example. Prior to that legislation being passed I think there was a 72 hour period where if the hospital notified a patient -- or the family that represented the patient that they were going to deny life-sustaining treatment, then they had just that 72 hour period to find a place to transfer the patient, that would provide the treatment.

This legislation, some of the new protections it put in place were --included, the ethics committee review by the hospital, in working with the families as well, making -- you know, to discuss those decisions, determinations. And it also provided a 10-day period, so they had 10-day notice to be able to transfer the patient to another health care provider. And it also authorized court proceedings to extend that 10-day period in order to extend that transfer, if necessary.

So it's just an uninformed accusation.

545 posted on 03/23/2005 6:14:22 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Peach

P.S. I din't play any Nazi card. I asked you a fair question you couldn't (wouldn't) answer.

Again: checkmate.

Good day.


546 posted on 03/23/2005 6:15:23 AM PST by SerpentDove (Rush Limbaugh: "There's an actual energized enthusiasm for this woman's death out there...")
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I truly thank you for sending me that, despite your tone. If you search on my posts last night, around 1 or 2 in the a.m., you will see the article which I posted to.

I said it didn't sound right and I was pretty shocked. But I knew nothing of this legislation except what was in the newspaper article.


547 posted on 03/23/2005 6:16:34 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: SerpentDove

Keep telling yourself that.


548 posted on 03/23/2005 6:17:02 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

I didn't mean to project a tone. I notice that I forgot to include the quotation marks at the end of my post. The last sentence, "So it's just an uninformed accusation." are Scott McClellan's words, not my own.


549 posted on 03/23/2005 6:20:35 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Thanks for explaining that. And I'm glad to hear this because I did not approve of the legislation the way the article portrayed it.


550 posted on 03/23/2005 6:21:37 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

We've been predicting this for our country for over 20 years--as soon as someone is allowed to put a value on another life in order to decide if it can continue to live or should be killed (abortion), inevitably infanticide and euthanasia follow. We've passed those two hurdles as a society. What's next???

551 posted on 03/23/2005 6:31:17 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (O, Sacred Heart of Jesus, Have Mercy On Us!)
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To: SerpentDove

The reference of Nazis being off limits must be hitting to close to home for some of these people. Maybe we should compare them to Stalin and the millions that died from his hands or how about Sadam, maybe Castro would give them the warm fuzzies. They are all known to torture and kill their fellow mankind. Why did not they not allow people to be "starved" to death.....and here I did not realise they were just getting rid of the burdens to society. What was I thinking???


552 posted on 03/23/2005 6:59:39 AM PST by Two-Bits (I AM HEARTSICK AND SOUL MAD!!!! DO NOT GET A DNR IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE PUT TO DEATH.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Thank you for clearing that up. I, myself, played into the media hype this time. You know, it's a very easy (albeit lazy) thing to do.


553 posted on 03/23/2005 7:25:32 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

You are welcome.


554 posted on 03/23/2005 7:34:47 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: concan

I've never been in a courtroom where heresay was permitted. This is a new one to me. I always assumed if there was no living will, then they sided with life. Boy was I wrong.


555 posted on 03/23/2005 7:38:19 AM PST by Ga.Lady
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To: Two-Bits

Huh?


556 posted on 03/23/2005 8:38:06 AM PST by restornu (Dems Hegelian Agenda...1 Population Control 2 Create Fear Pain 3.Solution Abortion/ Euthanasia)
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To: All
I did a google search on "Florida law adultery criminal" and found a web site that claims that under section 798.01 of the Florida code that:

"Whoever lives in an open state of adultery shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083." Reportedly, punishment for a misdemeanor of the second degree can be up to 60 days imprisonment.

If Jeb Bush really wants to help Terri, why doesn't he direct Florida law enforcement to arrest Michael Shiavo under this standard and while he is in jail (even overnight before the bail hearing) have, or petition to have, a new guardian appointed, perhaps on the basis that Michael can't do the job in jail or must be replaced because of the criminal charges?

I don't know how new guardians are chosen but would think her parents are the logical alternative and they would direct her to be fed and given water again.

557 posted on 03/23/2005 8:40:17 AM PST by Law ("...all who hate me love death" Proverbs 8:36b)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Two-Bits
Peach motto and profil!

"The only thing necessary to insure the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

558 posted on 03/23/2005 8:47:50 AM PST by restornu (Dems Hegelian Agenda...1 Population Control 2 Create Fear Pain 3.Solution Abortion/ Euthanasia)
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To: restornu

Damn shame about Peach. She used to be a sweetheart.


559 posted on 03/23/2005 8:55:17 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (when she dies, America dies.)
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To: SerpentDove; Miss Marple; jwalsh07; sola_fide; mewzilla; zippee; Coop; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; ..

Strange thing about the NAZI lable is they call US that, but THEY practice it.....there is a big differents!

Margaret Sanger Plan Parenthood and Euthanasia!
Germany's Federal Archive released a report Tuesday revealing new evidence that doctors and other hospital staff used gas, drugs or starvation to kill the disabled patients as part of Hitler's programme of racial purification.

dehumanizing of victims is the first step in the euthanasia process...http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/printerfriendly.html

Just another program for POPULATION CONTROL!


560 posted on 03/23/2005 9:00:55 AM PST by restornu (Dems Hegelian Agenda...1 Population Control 2 Create Fear Pain 3.Solution Abortion/ Euthanasia)
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