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Schiavo Case: Judge Greer parts ways with his church on pastor's advice
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 03.22.05 | Times Staff

Posted on 03/22/2005 5:58:03 AM PST by Dr. Marten

The Terri Schiavo Case

Judge Greer parts ways with his church on pastor's advice

By Times Staff
Published March 22, 2005

CLEARWATER - Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer left his church last week after the pastor wrote him a letter suggesting "it might be easier for all of us" if he leave.

Greer, whose orders on the Terri Schiavo case have brought him criticism, is a Southern Baptist who attended Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater.

Though he had other unrelated problems with the church, Greer's attendance faltered after a Baptist publication the church supported criticized his decisions in the Schiavo case. He stopped his donations to the church, but remained a member. He briefly discussed his relationship with the church in a March 6 St. Petersburg Times article.

Four days later, Calvary Pastor William Rice wrote Greer a letter: "I am not asking you to do this, but since you have taken the initiative of withdrawal, and since your connection with Calvary continues to be a point of concern, it would seem the logical and, I would say, biblical course."

Rice's letter became public when he sent a copy to the Clearwater courthouse. Rice also said the church supports keeping Schiavo alive, though he said he was "truly saddened and embarrassed by the level of harassment and vitriolic nature of so many comments that purportedly come from people of faith."

Rice, who has been pastor at the church for five months, added: "But you must know that in all likelihood it is this case which will define your career and this case that you will remember in the waning days of life. I hope you can find a way to side with the angels and become an answer to the prayers of thousands."

Greer responded with a letter severing his relationship with the church.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bino; judgegreer; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Don't worry. You're not a gloater, nor are the rest of us who agree with you. It's the other guy who has some sort of major problem.


161 posted on 03/22/2005 9:18:55 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

"He's broken a few of God's laws."

Absolutely!!!!!!


162 posted on 03/22/2005 9:19:00 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Dr. Marten

Oh my.


Thats why we as Southern Baptists are autonomous.

We can police our own when we want to.


163 posted on 03/22/2005 9:20:20 AM PST by Rightly Biased (I believe If you can't say something good about somebody your probably talking about Hillary Clinton)
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To: Rightly Biased

And praise God for it!! :-)


164 posted on 03/22/2005 9:21:30 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Who can file? Can anyone go to the magistrate and file an adultery case?


165 posted on 03/22/2005 9:21:59 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: sweet_diane
At first I was thinking the same thing, but, often the church elders will go to the individual in private and make those requests and have fellowship and counsel time. Perhaps he had remained unrepentant and refused their counsel. At which point, the public letter is no suprise.

Also, the article indicated there were problems between Greer and his church. We do not know if they related to this issue, their attempts at church discipline over it or if he was requiring discipline for some other action.

166 posted on 03/22/2005 9:25:32 AM PST by mother22wife21 ( Terri: give her the liberty to persue life.)
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To: ThePaladin

You got any sence?


167 posted on 03/22/2005 9:26:49 AM PST by icu2 (I think it is here.)
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To: ThePaladin
Shouldnt the church be there for you in your darkest hour?

To a point. Then they are to "shake the dust from their feet" and move on.

168 posted on 03/22/2005 9:26:50 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: ThePaladin; Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; Constitution Day; VRWCmember; Poohbah; dighton; ...
Shouldnt the church be there for you in your darkest hour? What a shame that these "Christians" missed out on a real opportunity to show Jesus' love.

Good thing you're there to bash Christians, right?


169 posted on 03/22/2005 9:28:00 AM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: meandog

Unitarian.


170 posted on 03/22/2005 9:28:29 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ThePaladin

Christ is there for you even in your darkest hour.

The Church The Bride of Christ cannot allow sin to go on unmitigated without some form of discipline.

What this Southern Baptist Church did is Scriptual and that is all that the Chruch has to go on is Scripture not how good something feels or if its the right thing to do in the worlds eye.

To become a memeber of Most Southern Baptist Churches one must Confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Therefore following the Spirits leadership in your life measuring everything against Scritpure and doing the best you can to live a sinless life knowing that Grace abounds with the confession of sins to Father God or without confession of all sins Grace is still there. But to go on sinning and know it is a sin. Well there lies the problem that the Bride of Christ must confront.

RB<><


171 posted on 03/22/2005 9:33:47 AM PST by Rightly Biased (I believe If you can't say something good about somebody your probably talking about Hillary Clinton)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Way has that angle not been used?


172 posted on 03/22/2005 9:33:52 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot)
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To: k2blader

I do every day!

I sure didn't know that Greer was a SB.
I guess he went to Church with the Clintons?


173 posted on 03/22/2005 9:35:15 AM PST by Rightly Biased (I believe If you can't say something good about somebody your probably talking about Hillary Clinton)
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To: k2blader

I know that, but thanks for the backup!


174 posted on 03/22/2005 9:35:23 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot)
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To: knarf

[quote]I am btw,the father to the girl.[/quote]

You and yours are in my prayers.. God Bless you...


175 posted on 03/22/2005 9:36:22 AM PST by Refinersfire
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To: Sola Veritas

The penalty is high.


176 posted on 03/22/2005 9:36:25 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Come on over!


177 posted on 03/22/2005 9:37:36 AM PST by Rightly Biased (I believe If you can't say something good about somebody your probably talking about Hillary Clinton)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I don't know...It should. The focus may need to be diverted to the actions of Michael and not on Terri


178 posted on 03/22/2005 9:43:51 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: ThePaladin
I really wonder when people put Christians in quotes as you have. Often they are supporting an agenda that is unchristian. Greer was a member of his church. He had proclaimed his faith and identity with that membership. Judge Greer identified himself as a disciple of Jesus Christ.

There are MANY things concerning this, that neither you or I will know. For instance:

1. We do not know that Judge Greer considers any of this his darkest hour and/or perhaps has rebuffed all support and guidance from his church elders.

2. Perhaps we can consider the possibility that all efforts were made to show Jesus' love to Judge Greer, that he remained unrepentant.

I'm not sure I understand what opportunity you believe has been missed.

179 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:04 AM PST by mother22wife21
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To: Conspiracy Guy

" It is about the who has the right to decide"
Precisely!

" I know what would happen if this was my daughter. Heaven help me for what I'm thinking."

You were thinking the same as me if it were MY daughter.


180 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:23 AM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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