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Schiavo `case' a shameful affair
Manchester Union Leader ^ | March 22, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 03/22/2005 3:58:24 AM PST by billorites

Shameful! There's really no other word to describe what is now both the Terri Schiavo ``case'' and the Terri Schiavo ``law.''

Before there was a ``case'' or a ``law,'' Terri Schiavo was just a 26-year-old woman, wife to Michael Schiavo, daughter of Bob and Mary Schindler. Then in 1990 a heart attack, likely resulting from an eating disorder, cut the oxygen to her brain, putting her in what doctors describe as ``a persistent vegetative state.''

Since then Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers have played dysfunctional family - neither willing to relent on who should have the last word on Terri Schiavo's care. They have fought out their battle over 15 years before 19 different judges in six different courts and the Florida Legislature, which attempted - ultimately unsuccessfully - to intervene. The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to intervene in the case on three separate occasions.

Common sense has long since gone out the window as politicians, first at the state level and now in Congress, have shamelessly used the case to pursue their political agendas - and as the equally shameful relatives of Terri Schiavo have allowed themselves to be so used.

Ah, but there's so very much shame to go around here. The U.S. Senate, of course, passed the Schiavo bill ``unanimously'' on a voice vote with only three members present Sunday because, well, all of those future Democratic presidential contenders like Sens. Hillary Clinton and John Kerry [related, bio] wouldn't want to actually put this to a debate and roll call.

Then, of course, there's the utter shamelessness of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - Dr. Frist, a heart surgeon, remember - who insisted after watching a video that Terri Schiavo ``has a level of consciousness.''

Most doctors actually examine a patient before rendering a diagnosis, but not when that doctor ends up in Congress.

And then, of course, there was the 203-58 vote in the House, in which a lot of good Republicans who as a matter of philosophy want to keep the federal courts out of people's lives were perfectly willing to make an exception in this case where the political stakes were high.

The only question is whether Terri Schiavo's due process rights were protected. And the answer is more than those of any patient, anytime, anywhere.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2coveracrime; abomination; boycottflorida; didhusbandhurtterri; didmikehurtterri; godhelpus; investigatehusband; investigatemichael; murder; pantload; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: palmer
I concur. I don't have the exact count in front of me, but the vast majority of "appeals" were heard by this Judge Greer idiot. I don't understand how, when a decision is appealed, it is appealed to the exact same ruling authority. I think the intent of Congress' decision over the weekend was to get Judge Greer out of the mix. However, it would seem that whoever is reviewing the case now agrees with Judge Greer. Kind of a Catch-22 situation. :-(
141 posted on 03/22/2005 6:09:26 AM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: Military family member

The electrodes shouldn't even be there... if they are, there's a whole new malpractice suit waiting to happen.


142 posted on 03/22/2005 6:14:49 AM PST by thoughtomator (Will Michael Schiavo get away with murdering his wife? Stay tuned to find out!)
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To: Conservative Infidel
From one of several article links on Terrisfight site: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/669hvjvj.asp:

Judge Greer has repeatedly allowed Michael Schiavo to skirt his statutory duty to file mandatory annual guardianship plans to establish a ward's approved plan of care for the coming year. This appears to be a direct violation of the applicable Florida Statutes

143 posted on 03/22/2005 6:26:08 AM PST by palmer ("Oh you heartless gloaters")
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To: Peach
I have two stents in my heart and have subsequently had two that's two MRIs. The major consideration is whether the metals would resonate, or be moved, during the procedure. No, I am not an MD, but I did have to decide whether to allow the MRIs based upon informed consent. And I am a Nurse.
144 posted on 03/22/2005 6:40:03 AM PST by lifelongsoldier (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: billorites

Frankly, politics should have nothing to do with this. Terri Schiavo is alive, awake, and breathing on her own. She should have the HUMAN RIGHT not to be starved to death. As for the politics of it, she is supposed to have the right to LIFE under the Declaration of Indepence.


145 posted on 03/22/2005 6:51:03 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: lifelongsoldier

There's a big difference between a shunt and electrodes.


146 posted on 03/22/2005 7:04:36 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mewzilla

You know, if you're going to post on such a contentious subject, at least have ONE of your facts straight.


147 posted on 03/22/2005 7:38:19 AM PST by Hildy
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To: mewzilla

Is this the Manchester Union in New Hampshier? Aren't they supposed to be conservative?


148 posted on 03/22/2005 7:42:01 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: exDemMom
Re: Polite conversation

...Progress can be slow, but I think we're starting to turn things around.

Good. Then be prepared to be impolite as I have for many years.

149 posted on 03/22/2005 7:43:17 AM PST by BufordP ("I wish we lived in the day when you could challenge a person to a duel!"--Zell Miller)
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To: freedomdefender
Is this the Manchester Union in New Hampshier? Aren't they supposed to be conservative?

Sigh. I thought so. Maybe there are pods in their cellar :(

150 posted on 03/22/2005 7:44:06 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: sirchtruth
Unbelievable that these heathens don't have at least the most miniscule compassion for life.

That's why they wear the big D with pride, which stands for Democrat and Death.

151 posted on 03/22/2005 8:54:23 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Peach

Nice try. But I wrote stents. Small metallic mesh tubes inserted into coronary and other arteries to keep them patent. And stents are a contraindication for MRI for a period of six-twelve months. My point being that though Terri could not have had the MRI in the past, it would be feasible today, and would define the damage done to her brain. A PET scan would have given more information than did the CT scans which were done.


152 posted on 03/22/2005 10:49:02 AM PST by lifelongsoldier (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: lifelongsoldier

Have you actually asked a doctor if someone with electrodes can have an MRI? Try it.


153 posted on 03/22/2005 10:50:27 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: billorites

Ironic that many of the same forces that want to allow a single judge to starve a woman to death are using the concept of shame to attack those that want to keep her alive.

It was these same forces that criticized conservatives for using the concept of shame in criticizing Bill Clinton and his disrespect of the Oval Office.

Their claim was essentially that the concept of shame died a long time ago, that it is an old-fashioned concept and we need to be more progressive.


154 posted on 03/22/2005 10:53:44 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Peach

What year and from what school did you receive your MD?


155 posted on 03/22/2005 11:36:16 AM PST by lifelongsoldier (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: lifelongsoldier

Hey, if you don't want to hear the truth, that's fine. We'll stop communicating.


156 posted on 03/22/2005 11:45:27 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Apparantly that has already happened. You keep repeating the same cant without change. But if you wish to terminate our cross-purpose monologues, I shall be happy to oblige.


157 posted on 03/22/2005 1:18:01 PM PST by lifelongsoldier (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: lifelongsoldier

When you start sending me snotty remarks like "when did I get my MD", I think it's time to stop discussing this matter.

I can read court documents as easily as the next person and certainly don't need a medical degree to do it.


158 posted on 03/22/2005 1:19:45 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
The state of Florida has legally determined that a feeding tube IS part of life support.

Only because of the actions of euthanasia advocates. That doesn't make it right, or desirable. These death advocates really have me scared, because their ultimate desire is to remove all of those who are less than perfect in every way.

159 posted on 03/22/2005 4:22:54 PM PST by exDemMom (Euthanasia, NO WAY. Youth in Asia, OF COURSE.)
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To: exDemMom

That such over the top hyperbole that I can't respond.


160 posted on 03/22/2005 4:33:03 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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