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Death of airline passenger subdued by other passengers probed
CNN ^ | March 21, 2005 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:52:43 PM PST by bellevuesbest

NEW YORK (AP) -- Prosecutors are investigating the death of a man who was subdued by several fellow airline passengers after he became disruptive on a New York-bound flight, a spokesman said Sunday. William Lee was pronounced dead late Friday after he was removed from the American Airlines flight at Kennedy International Airport. The cause of death had not yet been determined and was under investigation. Lee, 48, of New York, stood up in his seat on American's Flight 4 from Los Angeles and "loudly demanded another beer," airline spokesman Tim Smith said. Flight attendants asked him to wait until they reached his row, Smith said, but the man "got very, very belligerent and loud and disruptive and was told he would not be served any more alcohol." The purser tried to calm him down, but he pushed her aside to get to the aisle, the spokesman said. Seven other male passengers restrained Lee, who was a large man, and they and the flight crew put flexible handcuffs on him and put him back in his seat, Smith said. Lee got out of his seat again and the seven passengers held him on his back on the galley floor until the plane landed, Smith said. He said he had heard reports the men were members of a rugby team but said he couldn't yet confirm that. After the landing, Port Authority police boarded the plane and administered CPR to Lee, who "was in some kind of distress," Smith said.

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I guess the moral is don't get drunk and piss off members of a rugby team.
1 posted on 03/21/2005 6:52:43 PM PST by bellevuesbest
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Post-9/11 there isn't any sympathy for clymers who misbehave on airplanes. If someone is dumb enough to prosecute the passengers involved, there will be a hung jury or not guilty verdicts.


2 posted on 03/21/2005 6:54:44 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: bellevuesbest
Seven other male passengers restrained Lee, who was a large man, and they and the flight crew put flexible handcuffs on him and put him back in his seat, Smith said. Lee got out of his seat again ... After the landing, Port Authority police boarded the plane and administered CPR to Lee, who "was in some kind of distress," Smith said.

He was obese, drunk and throwing himself around. Somewhere amid that is the cause of death.

3 posted on 03/21/2005 6:59:04 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: bellevuesbest

CSI did a show on this. A flight inbound to Las Vegas had an unruly passenger that was killed by co-passengers.


4 posted on 03/21/2005 7:07:17 PM PST by umgud
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"I guess the moral is don't get drunk and piss off members of a rugby team"

Exactly, mate. Those ruggers were jonesin' for their brew, also. Wait yer turn.


5 posted on 03/21/2005 7:07:57 PM PST by Kenny500c
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To: umgud

Yup, I was jsut thinking of the same thing.

The guy in the show had some pressure on his brain, made him sweaty, anxious, irritable.

The passengers got freaked and pounded him to death.


6 posted on 03/21/2005 7:10:52 PM PST by MacDorcha ("You can't reverse engineer something that was not engineered to begin with")
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To: bellevuesbest

Although this might be more cut and dry than the CSI one.

If you followed the similar path, it could be that yes he was disruptive, but did the drinking mixed with subduing (lack of oxygen plus and oxygen depriving drug...)

He died of alcohol poisoning.

Any takers?


7 posted on 03/21/2005 7:13:54 PM PST by MacDorcha ("You can't reverse engineer something that was not engineered to begin with")
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Death of Disruptive Air Passenger is Probed ^
  Posted by Fizzie
On News/Activism ^ 03/21/2005 7:20:07 PM EST · 23 replies · 1,346+ views


Los Angeles Times ^ | March 21, 2005 | Times Wire Service
Death of Disruptive Air Passenger Is Probed From Times Wire Services Prosecutors are investigating the death of a man who was subdued by several fellow airline passengers after he became disruptive on a New York-bound flight from Los Angeles, a spokesman for American Airlines said. William Lee, 48, was pronounced dead late Friday after he was removed from American Flight 4 at Kennedy International Airport.

8 posted on 03/21/2005 7:17:06 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: bellevuesbest

At least the Port Authority Police didn't have to retrace the plane's route to recover the body.


9 posted on 03/21/2005 7:18:26 PM PST by SmithL (Terrorists are in a quagmire)
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To: MacDorcha

Said they placed him on his back in the aisle...I'm thinking he might have vomited.


10 posted on 03/21/2005 7:19:06 PM PST by elli1
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To: umgud

I thought I had seen this somewhere before!!


11 posted on 03/21/2005 7:21:48 PM PST by curlewbird
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To: curlewbird

Life imitating TV.


12 posted on 03/21/2005 7:23:10 PM PST by umgud
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To: bellevuesbest
Or you could do what Gerard Finneran did:

http://www.salon.com/travel/diary/hest/1999/04/13/passenger/print.html

A few years ago on a United Airlines flight from Buenos Aires to New York, Gerard B. Finneran, an investment banker, went totally bonkers. Newspaper accounts said that after becoming intoxicated, Finneran demanded more alcohol from the flight attendants. When they refused, he began helping himself to the liquor supply. After being cut off a second time, he became visibly angry. He pushed one flight attendant (federal offense No. 1), verbally threatened another (federal offense No. 2), interfered with a third who was assisting a sick passenger (federal offense No. 3), then walked up to the first-class cabin, dropped his pants and defecated on a service cart in plain view of the passengers and crew. Then he stepped in his own feces and tracked it through the main cabin (federal offense Nos. 4, 5 and possibly 6).

Finneran was arrested upon landing in New York. He subsequently pleaded guilty to assault and was sentenced to two years probation. In addition, he was given 300 hours of community service and a $5,000 fine and was ordered to pay more than $50,000 in restitution to the airline and to reimburse fellow passengers for the price of their tickets. (Not surprisingly, Finneran's lawyer said his client was "ill" when he committed the now infamous in-flight atrocity.)


13 posted on 03/21/2005 7:25:10 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: elli1

So suffocation?


14 posted on 03/21/2005 7:25:48 PM PST by MacDorcha ("You can't reverse engineer something that was not engineered to begin with")
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To: bellevuesbest

Don't piss-off... or piss on.... a rugby team.


15 posted on 03/21/2005 7:27:44 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: bellevuesbest
More from that same link at Slate:

16 posted on 03/21/2005 7:28:06 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

I remember this and wish you hadn't brought it up again.

A thousand monkeys at keyboards typing for a hundred years couldn't make this kind of stuff up.

Personally, I think it's OK when A-holes drop dead.


17 posted on 03/21/2005 7:31:45 PM PST by garyhope
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To: umgud

Actually the TV version of CSI was based on a real story of a few years ago (pre 9/11) (I'm too lazy to google it right now). The guy who died did have a condition which caused him to basically lose his mind, he became physical with everybody and then tried to open the outer door. At that point, EVERYBODY panicked and jumped on him and he died. In real life as in the TV episode, the DA did not prosecute, knowing he would never get a jury to convict.


18 posted on 03/21/2005 7:33:47 PM PST by Clock King
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To: bellevuesbest

awwwwww...poor IGNORANT drunk.....booo hooooo...hope I dont cry in my beer


19 posted on 03/21/2005 7:34:52 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: MacDorcha
How about felony manslaughter.
20 posted on 03/21/2005 7:41:40 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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