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Michael Schiavo to Bush: Come down to visit Terri
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/21/05 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:02:28 PM PST by wagglebee

Michael Schiavo, reportedly angered by the latest developments in Washington, has done an about-face in his longstanding position of not allowing visitors to meet his estranged wife, Terri, the brain-injured Florida woman whose right to live is at the heart of a cliff-hanging euthanasia battle.

According to the St. Petersburg Times, Schiavo invited both President Bush and his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, to visit Terri at the hospice where she is undergoing a court-ordered starvation death after her feeding tube was removed Friday.

"Come down, President Bush," Schiavo said in the Times interview Saturday. "Come talk to me. Meet my wife. Talk to my wife and see if you get an answer. Ask her to lift her arm to shake your hand. She won't do it.

She won't, because she can't, said Schiavo.

"Terri died 15 years ago," he said, referring to her collapse in 1990 that cut off oxygen to her brain, leaving her seriously brain injured and unable to talk.

A handful of physicians say she is in a persistent vegetative state -- that is, she may seem to be alert and awake, but the smiles and laughter she exhibits are simply reflex actions. Florida law permits removal of feeding tubes from patients who are PVS.

More than 40 physicians and therapists have weighed in on the side of Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, who maintain she is aware, though seriously impaired, and could improve with therapy.

Regarding his invitation to the president, Schiavo said he made a similar offer to Gov. Bush last week but has not had a reply.

Schiavo described U.S. House Majority Leader Bill Frist, who led the effort to extend Terri's life, as a "little slithering snake" pandering for votes.

"To make coments that Terri would want to live, how do they [members of Congress] know?" he asked.

"What color are her eyes?" he demanded. "What's her middle name? What's her favorite color? They don't have any clue who Terri is. They should all be ashamed of themselves."

Schiavo's invitations to the president and his brother represent an exception to his long-standing ban on visitors, which has kept Terri in near-total seclusion at the Woodside Hospice Facility in Pinellas Park, Fla. Only her parents and siblings are allowed ready access. All others, including her priest and the attorneys representing her parents, may visit only when accompanied by an immediate family member.

Nancy Valko, a critical care nurse in St. Louis activist on euthanasia and related pro-life issues, reacted with caution to Schiavo's invitation to the president and governor.

"Hopefully, Terri is not being sedated or is too debilitated now from the dehydration to be seen, but it doesn't look good if Michael is saying this," she commented. "Personally, I think the fear of having Terri seen by the authorities and/or public is what was behind the quick removal of feedings Friday. Otherwise, why has Michael refused to allow pictures or to allow Terri outside?"

Except when she is taken to a whirlpool bath, Terri never leaves her room -- not even to attend functions offered all other residents, such as sing-alongs and concerts. This past Christmas, when "Santa Claus" visited the hospice, her door was kept firmly shut to prevent the jolly gentleman from catching a glimpse of her, and she of him. Carolers, too, were barred.

Even Judge George Greer, who has presided over the contentious case since September 1999, has not met Terri, having been persuaded by Schiavo's attorney, "right-to-die" advocate George Felos, not to visit her at the nursing home where she then was living.

On January 10, 2000 - just days before the trial that sealed Terri's fate was scheduled to begin - attorney Pamela Campbell, who represented Terri's parents, formally asked Greer if he would visit the disabled woman so he could see for himself how alert she is.

At a hearing on the matter, Felos argued that since both parties had agreed Terri was in a persistent vegetative state, to observe the patient was futile and unnecessary.

The judge accepted Felos' arguments, rejecting the opportunity to see for himself the woman whose life was in his hands.

The ban on visitation, which Schiavo defends as a necessary protection of his wife's privacy, came after a short video was played to the court during the 2000 trial, showing Terri alert and interacting with her parents.

The video, played at the trial over the objections of Felos, later was released to the public and run on a local TV channel.

Upon seeing the tape on TV, three physicians contacted the Schindlers offering to help.

Robert Schindler took each doctor in turn to the nursing home to meet his daughter. They were there long enough to see she was not in a persistent vegetative state, Schindler said, and they signed separate affidavits to that effect.

They also asked to be allowed to intervene in the case, but Greer rejected their requests and granted a motion by Felos for a no-visitation policy. Aside from nurses and her attending physician, the three doctors were the last professionals to have any contact with Terri for more than two years.

Other physicians in 2001 stated they believe Terri Schiavo is not PVS, but have been limited to basing their opinion on observing videotapes.

This holds for the 33 physicians who recently signed affidavits stating she is minimally conscious "or better," as opposed to being PVS.

Terri's eyes are brown

In his interview with the St. Petersburg Times, Schiavo took particular umbrage at no one knowing what color his estranged wife's eyes are. They are brown.

But a neurologist personally selected by Schiavo and Felos to examine Terri prior to a medical hearing was unable to recall that particular fact on the witness stand.

In Oct. 2002, following a series of legal maneuvers by the Schindlers, the Second District Court of Appeal ordered a medical evidentiary hearing to determine whether Terri is, in fact, in a persistent vegetative state, and if she is, what treatments might help her.

Dr. Melvin Greer, chairman of the University of Florida's College of Medicine in Gainsville, was one of two physicians chosen by Felos to examine her.

After performing a few bedside procedures to test her vision and hearing and general reflexes, Dr. Greer diagnosed Terri to be in a persistent vegetative state, for which there was no treatment. To test what he actually remembered about her, attorney Pat Anderson, representing the Schindlers, asked Dr. Greer what color Terri's eyes are.

"I don't know," he declared simply.

"She has huge brown eyes," Anderson told Judge Greer in her closing remarks.

"If you remember nothing else about her, you remember that."

When questioned by Anderson, Dr. Greer admitted he had not read a certain, major article in a British medical journal reporting a 43 percent error rate in PVS diagnoses over a five-year period.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; georgewbush; indict; indict4insulinstory; indict4nursestory; indictmichaelnow; indictonpolicereport; indictshiavo; jebbush; michaelschiavo; prolife; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Scribbz

I pray she lives, her parents are given custody over her, lovingly nurse her back to health and with proper therapy get her to the place where she say in her own voice, "Michael tried to kill me." This is, I believe, his greatest fear."


161 posted on 03/21/2005 8:54:37 PM PST by bethtopaz (Another dopeless hope fiend.)
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To: wagglebee
"Terri died 15 years ago," he said, referring to her collapse in 1990 that cut off oxygen to her brain, leaving her seriously brain injured and unable to talk.

That is not what Schiavo told the malpractice jury 13 years ago. At that time, he told them she was "highly responsive" and "curable" with "advanced rehabilitation" (actual quotes from his testimony). After convincing the jury she was quite alive and CURABLE, and would likely live another 41 years, the jury awarded Schiavo $1.2 million. Schiavo has used this award to build a new life with his common law wife and their 2 children. Even a judge as braindead as Napolitano can see two obvious reasons why Schiavo's custody of his former wife can and must be terminated:

(1) Fraud - Schiavo defrauded the malpractice jury by asserting (with 2 full years of observation of Terri) that she was "highly responsive" and "curable". and, once he had secured an extremely large award, terminated the care the jury had directed. Either he must return the entire $1.2 million award, or he must be charged with fraud. Either way his actions warrant termination of custody rights.
(2) Conflict of Interest - Under florida law, a spouse's custody rights must be terminated if it can be demonstrated that s/he has a "conflict of interest" regarding the well-being of the person under custodial care. In 1995, contrary to his promises to the jury that he would honor his marriage vows, Mr. Schiavo began living with another woman, by whom he has conceived two children out-of-wedlock. He calls this woman his 'fiancee', and is in fact of law his "common law" wife. Mr Schiavo thus has had assumable interest for over 10 years to end his former wife Terri's life so as to be free to marry his common-law wife and render his new children legitimate. This is an obvious and certain "conflict of interest" which--under Florida law--should compel any judge with authority over the matter to terminate Schiavo's custody forthwith. The Federal judge ought to do this posthaste. Further, that Judge Greer failed to do so is grounds for his impeachment and dismissal.

162 posted on 03/21/2005 8:56:35 PM PST by montag813
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To: MacDorcha
Being of The Blood, naturally you [and I] would tend to see some sort of "glamour" at work here.
I seriously doubt that what we *see* is anything at all like what the reality is.
Part of me supposes a sort of spiritual warfare, the other part suspects political chicanery...although the two are hardly inseparable, these days...and times.
163 posted on 03/21/2005 8:56:50 PM PST by Salamander
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To: DaveTesla

Condition improving, warning , warning, call Felos. Devise plan!


164 posted on 03/21/2005 8:56:55 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: wagglebee
I'm praying for a miracle. Perhaps president Bush will accept Schiavo's offer and visit bearing an executive order mandating the reinsertion of the feeding tube...

It is Holy Week after all...
165 posted on 03/21/2005 8:57:12 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: glock rocks

yeah,...and then W giving ol' Mikey a pop in the chops


166 posted on 03/21/2005 8:57:21 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: MacDorcha

Dinna be mekkin' mae coom doon thair, laddy!


167 posted on 03/21/2005 8:58:10 PM PST by Salamander
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To: DaveTesla
Nope.
Nothing to see here.
Move along....


[sheesh...I can hardly take the outrageousness of it all anymore]
168 posted on 03/21/2005 9:00:33 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Salamander

Potassium

HYPOKALEMIA

Severe dehydration, aldosteronism, Cushing's syndrome, kidney disease, long-term diuretic therapy, certain penicillins, laxative abuse, congestive heart failure, and adrenal gland impairments can all cause depletion of potassium levels in the bloodstream. A substance known as glycyrrhetinic acid, which is found in licorice and chewing tobacco, can also deplete potassium serum levels. Symptoms of hypokalemia include:


weakness


paralysis


increased urination


irregular heartbeat (arrhythmia)


orthostatic hypotension


muscle pain


tetany


169 posted on 03/21/2005 9:02:09 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Where are you coming up with this and keep it coming! :)


170 posted on 03/21/2005 9:03:35 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: DaveTesla
The prospect that foul play may have led to Terri's collapse and ensuing heart stoppage was enhanced when a bone scan was recently found. This scan, taken 53 weeks after Terri's collapse revealed that Terri had fractured ribs, damage to her pelvic area, LI vertebrae, spine, both knees and both ankles. It also revealed that Terri had suffered a broken femur and a broken back. Three doctors concluded that Terri had endured trauma of some sort. The radiologist responsible for the scan plainly stated: "This patient has a history of trauma".

How on earth did Michael Schiavo avoid scrutiny way back then, and THEN get named as Terri's legal guardian?? It just doesn't add up.

171 posted on 03/21/2005 9:03:48 PM PST by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: wagglebee
...a 43 percent error rate in PVS diagnoses over a five-year period.

Oh.

172 posted on 03/21/2005 9:03:52 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Salamander

You guys are convicting schiavo without any evidence. Everything has been hearsay. These threads on thi site and other sites kinda reminds me of the experiment back in school where the teacher would tell the student in the first seat a message and by the time it got to the back the message was completely different.

Some of you are convicting schiavo without any evidence whatsoever. Example: Some say he was a nurse when his wife was unconsious and later it was proven he was a nurse later.

This hi-tech lynching of Mike schiavo makes ABC's work of "convicting" Richard Jewell pale in comparison.


173 posted on 03/21/2005 9:04:08 PM PST by superiorslots
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To: Salamander

See, that's part of it though. I don't like the idea of accussing anyone of conspiracy. It seems ridiculous to me on a fundamental level. How hard would it be to keep one person's mouth shut if it's working on a national level?

But this whole thing... it REEKS!

Something vile about how it is. The nature of it. How it convinces otherwise good people. "Right to Die" is a false Christ as prophosied in the Bible!


174 posted on 03/21/2005 9:05:33 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: wagglebee
This holds for the 33 physicians who recently signed affidavits stating she is minimally conscious "or better," as opposed to being PVS.

Huh.

175 posted on 03/21/2005 9:06:08 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: MamaLucci

It doesn't add up the same way as Martha can be under house arrest while the angel Jessica met with foul play by the perpetrator next door, free to prey? Hello, McFly!??


176 posted on 03/21/2005 9:06:38 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: wagglebee
MedBlog Doc debunks and questions Terri's CT scan. Other docs comment on other problems with it. Great read!
177 posted on 03/21/2005 9:08:04 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Salamander

Ah, screw it. Lets just get piss-drunk. I got the Johnnie Walker (Black Label)!

Who's got the pipes? (the ones fer blowin' and the ones fer puffin')


178 posted on 03/21/2005 9:08:15 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: wagglebee
"I'm not sure we can get it done here in Florida," Martinez quoted (Gov.) Bush as saying just after a new Schiavo measure stalled in the Florida Legislature. "Do whatever you can federally."

The Governor of the State has found no relief and lost confidence in the Legislature and Judiciary and has called in the Feds. It can't now be said that the Feds have no business there.

The Executive Branch wields the authority of enforcement, security and investigation, Congressional investigations aside. Congress should step aside and let the President handle this.

Time for Federal Marshals and agents in black shiny FBI shoes.

179 posted on 03/21/2005 9:13:12 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: superiorslots

Nobody's convicting anybody.
Does someone here have Michael in custody?
Anybody here got judge's robes on or a gallows being built?
These are attempts to get to the bottom of the truth about -what- caused an otherwise healthy person to up and collapse for no "apparent" reason.
[and to question why he let her lay there for so long after the collapse, doing -nothing-]
Questions have not and -are- not being asked, much less answered.

Does this make you feel better?
*If* Michael is completely innocent of any wrongdoing, may God forgive me for ever thinking it so.

[but my gut, the evidence and how things have been "handled" thus far compels me to suspect otherwise]


I [and most others] merely want the possibility investigated.


180 posted on 03/21/2005 9:13:54 PM PST by Salamander
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