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Hospital ends life support of baby; 1st U.S. case of its kind is against mom's wish
KVUE ^ | 3.15.05

Posted on 03/21/2005 5:14:06 PM PST by ambrose

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To: Spyder

Suppose she had been sane as a judge (well, Greer excepted) and yet wanted this. Would that have made it better?


41 posted on 03/21/2005 5:45:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Did hopeless in this case simply mean the little one would have to be on a respirator all his life, but other than that would be OK?
No. He was suffocating even as he was on the ventilator because his lungs could not accomodate the quantity of air his body needed to survive. He passed very quickly after he was removed from the ventilator. In my opinion, it was a blessing to let the child pass.
42 posted on 03/21/2005 5:45:49 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: annyokie
THE 'VAST LIFE-WING CONSPIRACY' AGAINST 'poor wittuw michael' SCHIAVO [FR Link page]

Broken bones, signs of strangulation, No CPR administered, the cremation outrage, and recent, hot: ACCIDENTAL CONFESSION ON LARRY KING?....And many quotes with info I was not aware of have been pasted there.

Also... large link cluster

43 posted on 03/21/2005 5:45:55 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: ambrose

This is a very different case to that of Terri.

Terri is not being kept alive artificially, as this poor little baby was.

Even the Catholic Church accepts it's beyond reason to keep someone alive artificially - as distinct from starving a patient to death. VERY, VERY BIG DIFFERENCE


44 posted on 03/21/2005 5:47:38 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: ambrose
Hey, looks like bioethics is a growth industry!

All you have to say are seven words, and you're a bioethicist..."I wouldn't want to live that way."

45 posted on 03/21/2005 5:50:48 PM PST by Mamzelle (and how do you like your blue-eyed boy, mr. death?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The two cases are not similar at all.


46 posted on 03/21/2005 5:51:05 PM PST by superiorslots
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To: Dog Gone

I agree. The children of people who you feel are psychos should be terminated. Even if the children are healthy. Right on brother! You get to decide who lives. Yeah, Baby!


47 posted on 03/21/2005 5:51:54 PM PST by Brainhose (THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
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To: ambrose; Howlin

how long did it take the baby to die after the artifical breathing apparatus was removed?


48 posted on 03/21/2005 5:54:35 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Wolfstar; lonevoice

"I think the most unselfish, loving act of all is to let a terminal loved one go with as much grace and dignity as possible."

There is a BIG difference in the Terri Schiavo case which I don't know that you are considering . . . Terri is NOT terminal.


49 posted on 03/21/2005 5:55:03 PM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Brainhose
The children of people who you feel are psychos should be terminated.
That is not what happened. Not even close. As I said in an earlier post, the child was suffocating even on a ventilator because his lungs were too limited to support his body--
50 posted on 03/21/2005 5:55:50 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Wolfstar
I think the most unselfish, loving act of all is to let a terminal loved one go with as much grace and dignity as possible.

Letting them go is one thing, and making them go is another.

51 posted on 03/21/2005 6:00:28 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: ambrose

If the state is paying, the state will pursue it's interest to cut costs. What more do you need to know as you place your foot on the top of this slippery slope?


52 posted on 03/21/2005 6:00:40 PM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Americalover
George W. Bush signed that bill into law.

What law are you talking about? I don't think that you have any idea what you are saying. You are just spouting drivel.
53 posted on 03/21/2005 6:01:35 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: Clara Lou

From what I understood, the baby was terminal and did have a chance.

IMO, the hospital did the right thing.


54 posted on 03/21/2005 6:03:40 PM PST by Alexis the Bengal Kitty
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Neither did that Superman guy

That Superman guy had a fully developed set of lungs & a fully developed heart...something the Hudson baby never would have had.

55 posted on 03/21/2005 6:06:33 PM PST by elli1
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To: Alexis the Bengal Kitty

From what I understood, the baby was terminal and did not have a chance.

(forgot the not)


56 posted on 03/21/2005 6:07:40 PM PST by Alexis the Bengal Kitty
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To: Brainhose

If you think this child was healthy, you are terribly misimformed.


57 posted on 03/21/2005 6:07:48 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Wolfstar
He is in God's Kingdom now.

If people really, deeply believe there is a heaven, and that innocent people who die will spend eternity in the glory of God's presence, why do they simultaneously work so hard to keep the Terri Schiavos of the world in this world?

First of all, I do not know what happens to a baby who dies. I really don't. Christians do not hold that "innocent" people go to heaven, because there are no innocent people, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23. Rather, those who do go to heaven do so, not through their own "innocence" or righteousness, but through the atoning sacrifice that Jesus made; one that must be accepted by those who want it. Jesus said "I am the way the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me." (John 14:6).
Secondly, the Bible teaches us that human life is inherently valuable (a better question, though admittedly somewhat off topic, would be how can any true-blue Darwinist defend medicine of any kind?), due to passages like "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." (Genesis 1:27), "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God, He made man." (Genesis 9:6), "the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough-" (Psalm 49:8), and "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
As a final note, for my few minutes on the soap-box, this case as well as the Terri Schiavo case display a trend about our nation: a total disregard for the lives of those considered inferior. When a nation begins to turn and slay the weakest, the most helpless among them (those that they have the greatest charge to care for and protect), it has violated the most essential of God's laws, and has become completely barbaric.

58 posted on 03/21/2005 6:08:45 PM PST by SeƱor Zorro
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To: Dog Gone

If you think that whether this child was healthy or not is an issue, you are terribly misinformed.


59 posted on 03/21/2005 6:11:36 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: NorCalRepub

I have to agree with you. This baby had no chance to live and the lungs were so poorly developed. I had a friend who's baby dies right at birth because the lungs were to small and not fully developed. In a situation like this I think there is a time to let go. I believe Terri's case to be different in that she canb reath on her own. Huge difference!


60 posted on 03/21/2005 6:12:33 PM PST by Halls
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