Fred Barnes: The Bush Factor (What the president has done for his party)

The Weekly Standard ^ | March 28, 2005 | Fred Barnes

[TheGunny]

Congrats on your 10 year anniversary! Your still full of sh!t.

[David Noles]

AND YOUR STILL THE BLIND FOLLOWING THE BLIND.

[NutCrackerBoy]

You folks are talking point heads ...

The "talking points" accusation is a red herring. Treat the points as honest and debate them. There is definitely room for an honest debate along the lines of your argument. I've seen hundreds of them.

[David Noles]

TALKING POINTS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN SPIN. WHY ARGUE SPIN.
IT'S LIKE J@CKING OFF.

[Go_Raiders]

You may be right about Bush in many ways, but on Iraq you are Wrong (look at Libya), Wrong (Look at Lebanon), Wrong (Look at the Palestinians).

Saudi Arabia and Egypt are slowly turning toward Democracy. None of that would have happened without Iraq, and we are only two years downstream of the fall of Saddam.

Oh, and one more thing. There was only one alternative to taking out the Saddam regime - capitulation and lifting the sanctions, sooner or later. This would have only emboldened the forces of tyranny and terrorism.

Anyone objectively looking at the two realistic alternatives would understand that Bush took the only course of action that had any hope of improving the situation.

[COEXERJ145]

The ones who won't support anyone but the Perfect (Imaginary) Conservative Republican seem to think that all that has to be done is to let Republicans lose an election and they will be replaced with Perfect Conservatives.

There are a bunch on this forum who think that. In their mind the perfect candidate is the only person they will support even though they might agree with President Bush on 75%-95% of the issues. Usually they let one thing blind them to reality and instead of trying to advance the conservative agenda they spend their time trying to destroy it since in their mind that is the only way to "save it".

[David Noles]

WHY WON'T ANYONE JUST ADMIT THAT THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS HAD THE OPPOSITE AFFECT AS INTENDED.

SOMEONE PLEASE DEBATE WITH ME HOW RUSSIA ARMING THE MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE EVERYONE IS AFRAID SILLY THAT BUSH HAS ANOTHER PREEMPTIVE STRIKE IN PLANS IS CAUSING PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE REGION.

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW CHINA AND RUSSIA ARMING UP AND PRACTICING WAR GAMES TOGETHER TO OFFSET THE MUSCLE WE'VE USED IS CAUSING PEACE & STABILITY IN THE WORLD.

[GreyFriar]

Ping

[David Noles]

A PREMEDITATED FALSE PEACEFUL ACT TO LET US PUT OUR GUARD DOWN WHILE RUSSIA-CHINA & FRIENDS (IRAN, SYRIA) TAKES CARE OF THE DIRTY WORK.

I CALL THIS A HUGE VICRORY ON THE PART OF bUSH FOREIGN POLICY.

[COEXERJ145]

I am afraid history will look back at him as having been a disaster.

Only in your dreams. Either you're a DU sleeper who is showing his true colors or one of those conservative purists who has never actually supported the President because he wasn't "conservative enough" for you.

History will show President Bush to have been one of the greatest Presidents in United States history. I know this because I will be one of the people writing it and teaching it to our future generations.

[dirtymac]

Waht are you? Stupid of something. go back to DU

[politicalwit]

"instead of trying to advance the conservative agenda they spend their time trying to destroy it since in their mind that is the only way to "save it"."

Is a conservative agenda running up DEBT or campaign finance reform or extended government entitlements or a worthless education plan or a non-existent domestic energy policy or a failed national security program? <- Those are republican policies, not conservative policies. What I find ironic is that if the republicans were in the minority they would be squelling like a hog with the GWB agenda.

[NutCrackerBoy]

SOMEONE PLEASE DEBATE WITH ME HOW RUSSIA ARMING THE MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE EVERYONE IS AFRAID SILLY THAT BUSH HAS ANOTHER PREEMPTIVE STRIKE IN PLANS IS CAUSING PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE REGION.

I will, gladly, but first you must turn off Caps Lock.

[politicalwit]

"I know this because I will be one of the people writing it and teaching it to our future generations.

Unfortunately our future generations will be so far in DEBT they wouldn't have time to read your your fiction tales.

[DUMBGRUNT]

You can say that again and again, every word of it!

[lotusblos]

"WHY WON'T ANYONE JUST ADMIT THAT THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS HAD THE OPPOSITE AFFECT AS INTENDED. "

Maybe because it hasn't. Has that ever entered your mind? Could you possibly be wrong?

[David Noles]

instead of trying to advance the conservative agenda they spend their time trying to destroy it since in their mind that is the only way to "save it"." Is a conservative agenda running up DEBT or campaign finance reform or extended government entitlements or a worthless education plan or a non-existent domestic energy policy or a failed national security program? <- Those are republican policies, not conservative policies. What I find ironic is that if the republicans were in the minority they would be squelling like a hog with the GWB agenda.

Amen , finally a real republican around here speaks.

[David Noles]

"WHY WON'T ANYONE JUST ADMIT THAT THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS HAD THE OPPOSITE AFFECT AS INTENDED. " Maybe because it hasn't. Has that ever entered your mind? Could you possibly be wrong?

Then where is the success?

[escapefromboston]

YOUR?

[Darkwolf377]

"Bush hasn't been much of a President. I am afraid history will look back at him as having been a disaster. His war in Iraq has caused rogue nations to try to develope nukes and arm up with Russian help in fear of another Bush preventive strike. Meanwhile China and Russia build up their militaries. We have few friends left in the world."

Which rogue nations have tried to develop nukes due to the Iraq invasion that weren't trying to get them before?

When were China and Russia NOT building up their militaries?

I think you need to study a little more history. Bush's will be seen as a historic presidency for its not caring what the weak-kneed think about what our enemies think of us, while helping democracy grow in an area NO ONE believed ti could.