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Atomic Iran excerpt: The Samson Option, Israel's Preemptive Strike
Iran Freedom Foundation web site ^
| March 21, 2005
| Dr. Jerome Corsi
Posted on 03/21/2005 9:03:13 AM PST by Interesting Times
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To: GOPJ
It would be unforgivable for Israel to strike Iran at this time. The United States is doing a carrots and sticks approach and Israel needs to respect our efforts. I suspect that Israel's decision will be based on whether they think the mullahs-with-nukes scenario is imminent, and that diplomatic concerns are a considerably lower priority.
To: D Rider
I stand corrected, you are clearly right. I guess I need to cut back on the cold medicine while I am posting. ; ) "Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Thanks for the courteous retraction...
To: Interesting Times
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue." Thanks for the courteous retraction...
Your welcome, and no occifer I havn't been drinking ...hick-up.
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posted on
03/21/2005 10:03:46 AM PST
by
D Rider
To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the ping. "The Samson Option" sounds ominous.
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posted on
03/21/2005 10:12:19 AM PST
by
zot
(GWB -- four more years!)
To: zot
The actual Samson option is actually Israel destroying the entire arab world, not just Iran..
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posted on
03/21/2005 10:14:02 AM PST
by
G32
To: GOPJ
It would be unforgivable for Israel to strike Iran at this time. What a bunch of hooey. Israel has every right to strike Iran unilaterally if and when they determine Iran is about to reach the point of no return.
If Iran was our neighbor I think it's likely we would have launched a strike already.
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posted on
03/21/2005 10:19:33 AM PST
by
Smogger
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posted on
03/21/2005 10:41:17 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
To: Terpesman
For the record, I'm not saying that Israel should attack Iran... ...but Israel has to look out for Israel. They live with the threat (and the deadly attacks) on a daily basis. If they feel the need to protect themselves by attacking Iran, that's their business. Our Carrot and Stick approach left us with a North Korean mess. We shouldn't make the same mistake with Iran. Israel's best chance for survival is a free and democratic ME. Israel and America have been used as easy whipping boys by ME thug/leaders for years. They tell poor disenfranchised Arab citizens that they're poor, or miserable or whatever because of Israel and the US. It's never because they live under 14th century corrupt despotic leaders. Nope, it's always the fault of Israel and the US. Nothing will sink that type of thinking faster than a rule of law/free/democratic region. All these years Israel has retaliated. And it hasn't worked. Well, hasn't worked in the long run.
That region has been at war forever. It's time for a new way. The Bush democracy movement is worth a try -- and it's worth the time is takes to succeed.
And your comment on North Korea? That's nuts. Surely you're not comparing policy made by a liberal Clinton administration with North Korea with what we're trying to do with Iran. Please, tell me you don't really see Clinton and Bush as being the same.
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posted on
03/21/2005 11:00:18 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
To: Interesting Times
If Israel's decision was based on "mullahs with nukes" being imminent, Bush would be standing there with them -- the bombing would be a joint effort. I don't believe we're there yet. We need to give the power of democracy a chance.
I suspect that Israel's decision will be based on whether they think the mullahs-with-nukes scenario is imminent, and that diplomatic concerns are a considerably lower priority.
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posted on
03/21/2005 11:14:27 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
To: GOPJ
If Israel's decision was based on "mullahs with nukes" being imminent, Bush would be standing there with them -- the bombing would be a joint effort. I don't believe we're there yet. We need to give the power of democracy a chance. I greatly prefer the "power of democracy" approach myself -- that's one reason I'm working with the Iran Freedom Foundation. However, it's quite possible for the pre-emptive strike trigger point to be interpreted differently by the Israelis and the U.S. Administration, particularly in view of the fact that Iran has missiles that can reach Tel Aviv...
To: Interesting Times
Isn't the Samson option to follow the military defeat if it comes of Israel? The last Israeli standing on the beach of the Mediterranean will push the button and everything will go up in fire just as Israel is overrun.
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posted on
03/21/2005 11:45:44 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
To: Interesting Times
"The latter type of weapons is often described as "thermonuclear" due to the extremely high temperatures required to initiate a fusion reaction.
Yep.
You need a little nuke to kick-off the big one.
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posted on
03/21/2005 11:51:30 AM PST
by
roaddog727
(The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
To: GOPJ
Israel has ruled out asking forgiveness. Did they ask forgiveness for destroying the Iraqi nuclear plant? The carrot and stick approach is eating up time the world does not have. Action by the UN security council will be obstructed as in the past. The mullahs have started a countdown to destiny. The whole world will breathe a sigh of relief when Israel does what they will not.
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posted on
03/21/2005 12:01:21 PM PST
by
meatloaf
To: GOPJ
Bush and Clinton are not the same but at the end of the day, the results could be.
Clinton's inaction and "aid" enabled to the N Korean government to develop and produce nuclear weapons. If we aren't careful, Iran will drag out negotiations long enough for them to have nuclear weapons. At that point, does it matter who's policy is better/worse? The end result is that Iran and North Korea will both have the ability to respond to any attacks with a nuke.
I also don't buy the "corrupt leaders" argument. How many muslims living here in the US send money back to their home countries to support terrorist actions? You would think that once they get here and see how things really are that they would renounce their antiquated views and live in peace and harmony with their neighbors. It doesn't always work like that though. The radicals are poisoned by their religion and there's nothing we can do to change their minds. You cannot negotiate with people like that, all you can do is kill them... and make an example of them so that the ones we don't kill realize that is is in their best interest not to fight against us.
To: RightWhale
Isn't the Samson option to follow the military defeat if it comes of Israel? The last Israeli standing on the beach of the Mediterranean will push the button and everything will go up in fire just as Israel is overrun. Yeah, that would certainly qualify...
To: Interesting Times
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posted on
03/21/2005 1:12:06 PM PST
by
Fedora
To: Interesting Times
If Israel launches a nuclear first strike on Iran to prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons, they have become the aggressor and would be widely condemned.
A clean conventional strike , like Osirik, would be acceptable, even though the Iranian facilities are alleged to be hardened and dispersed.
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posted on
03/21/2005 1:28:05 PM PST
by
paleocon patriarch
("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
To: G32
The actual Samson option is actually Israel destroying the entire arab world, not just Iran.. Oh? I hadn't heard that before. If it is more than a rumor, it is a threat for the Arab world to consider.
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03/21/2005 1:28:09 PM PST
by
zot
(GWB -- four more years!)
To: paleocon patriarch
If Israel launches a nuclear first strike on Iran to prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons, they have become the aggressor and would be widely condemned. I haven't heard anybody suggest that Israel might launch a nuclear first strike; all the discussion I've seen focuses on an attempt to take out Iran's nuclear program with a conventional attack.
Do you have a source for this, or is it just speculation?
To: D Rider
Actually, the author qualified his remarks carefully. He indeed talks about a low-yield nuclear bomb.
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posted on
03/21/2005 1:41:11 PM PST
by
RinaseaofDs
(The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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