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President Bush Signs Schiavo Bill
3/21/05

Posted on 03/20/2005 10:27:51 PM PST by paltz

As Per Fox News


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; billsigning; bush43; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrislaw
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To: hoosiermama

The judge in Tampa is now reviewing the case as instructed.

There will be a hearing at 3:oo pm.

That he hasn't ordered the tube reinserted is an indication of something, though I won't speculate on that aspect.

If the judge finds that the courts in Fl. violated Terri's rights it could order a new trial and hear it themselves de-novo or they could send it back to Greer. If there is no such finding then...


441 posted on 03/21/2005 7:11:54 AM PST by KDD
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To: nyconse

Sounds kinda like Hitler, doesn't it?


442 posted on 03/21/2005 7:12:09 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Marysecretary
At least Kevorkian's method of murder was quick and didn't take two weeks to a month to finish the job.

Both Judge Greer and Judge Whittemore are using a cruel means of execution indeed.

443 posted on 03/21/2005 7:14:22 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: sagebrush58

I hate to get off the main topic of your thread but since you did, I'll give you my two cents worth. G-d is a sign of respect by the Jews for our God. They won't spell out His name because of respect. Now, I know that ALL Jews don't respect God, but most do. That's their way of addressing Him.


444 posted on 03/21/2005 7:18:07 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: snowsislander

They sure are. I wonder if they would do this to their OWN child?????


445 posted on 03/21/2005 7:18:50 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Quoting from Wikopedia:

"Within the U.S. Constitution, the clause forbidding attainder laws served two purposes. First, it reinforced the separation of powers, by forbidding the legislature to perform judicial functions—since the outcome of any such acts of legislature would of necessity take the form of a bill of attainder. Second, it embodied the concept of due process, which was later reinforced by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Any forfeiture of life, liberty or property without due process of law is by definition a bill of attainder."

Looks to me like there was a question whether or not Terri received due process before she was sentenced to die. The act of Congress was passed to correct what appeared to be a violation of the 'no bill of attainder' clause which the court issued when it passed sentence on Terri. Congress is seeking to restore the balance of powers in this case if the allegation is true. That's how I see it, but could be wrong. What's your opinion?

446 posted on 03/21/2005 7:25:33 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: snowsislander

Judge Whittemore is not looking at this case in a vacuum. You can be sure he is seeking advice from the U.S. Supreme Court. He has a direct line to them and I find it more then just a little coincidental that Justice Rehnquist showed up at his office this morning for the first time in a long time.


447 posted on 03/21/2005 7:29:18 AM PST by KDD
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To: gimme1ibertee

Are you opposed to term limits? Also for Congress? Curious to know.


448 posted on 03/21/2005 7:29:20 AM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: KDD
Judge Whittemore is not looking at this case in a vacuum. You can be sure he is seeking advice from the U.S. Supreme Court. He has a direct line to them and I find it more then just a little coincidental that Justice Rehnquist showed up at his office this morning for the first time in a long time.

Dum spiro spero. But the lack of an immediate order to provide some sort of sustenance is unfortunately a very big red flag to me.

450 posted on 03/21/2005 7:40:05 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: Aliska
I hate to see it reduced to Terri being a symbol or as a religious victory. It's broader in scope than that to me. There are no doubt some of no religion who might embrace the culture of life.

I totally agree and thank you for making that point. It's uncomfortable to see Terri Schiavo's plight portrayed as exclusively a religious issue. I'm personally acquainted with at least two atheists who are strong advocates and supporters of the Schindler's fight to save the life of their daughter.

451 posted on 03/21/2005 7:42:55 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: snowsislander

It is a huge red flag.

So is the fact that the Judge has calling the Schindlers Att. back to court and not Felos.


452 posted on 03/21/2005 7:58:51 AM PST by KDD (in articulo mortis esto perpetue)
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To: Petronski

"It could even skyrocket into a critical mass--a firestorm even--of cliches that will wash away this Republic!"

Amusing...but perhaps inappropriate in light of what I shared about my experience? Context is everything, to borrow another cliche.


453 posted on 03/21/2005 8:31:38 AM PST by GOPrincess
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To: ChicagoHebrew; wcdukenfield
Freeper wcduckenfield posted a Mark Levin article on another thread. I think it relates to your question as well. Here's a quote from it:

" What really offends the Left is Congress asserting its constitutional power over a court, and not in service to the liberal agenda. Article III specifically empowers Congress to determine the jurisdiction of the federal courts, which is all it did today. It authorized a federal court to determine whether Terri Schiavo's due process rights and the right not be subject to cruel and unusual punishment were properly protected by a state court."

That's pretty close to what I said as well.

454 posted on 03/21/2005 8:59:19 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: KDD
Bump for some sanity from Justice Scalia, who recognizes that the federal government has intruded into more than enough of our existence.

Thanks for digging out that opinion. Those overreaching, grandstanding clowns on Capitol Hill embarrassed anyone who believes in limits on government this weekend.

455 posted on 03/21/2005 9:01:45 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: sagebrush58

I hope something good comes out of it all. If she has to die, I hope something happens to help others.


456 posted on 03/21/2005 9:35:40 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: thoughtomator

"It's frightening how eager some people are for this woman to die."

Thats not it at all.

The problem some have, myself included, is not the outcome, it the process. The idea of the federal government stripping state powers and following the "will of the people" goes against conservative principles in two very key ways.

1 - Federal vs. States rights
2 - We are a Republic, not a Democracy. The "will of the people" is notoriously inconsistent and tends to result in the rights of the minority suffering under the desires of the majority. The Republican form of government is specifically designed to act as a buffer against mob rule.


457 posted on 03/21/2005 9:44:38 AM PST by ndt
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To: Zivasmate

No,not particularly..Just injecting a little levity.
Hopefully our next president is as good as Reagan or GW,but they are two tough acts to follow.Guys like that don't grow on trees.


458 posted on 03/21/2005 9:55:27 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (It's not "Right To Die"...It's "Right To Live"!!)
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To: KDD; Hank Rearden; billbears

Another BUMP for Scalia's well-reasoned opinion. Personally, I believe that what Michael Schiavo is doing to his wife is wrong. But allowing the federal government to step in and set a very dangerous precedent could spell disaster for the entire country.


460 posted on 03/21/2005 10:48:16 AM PST by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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