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President Bush Signs Schiavo Bill
3/21/05

Posted on 03/20/2005 10:27:51 PM PST by paltz

As Per Fox News


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; billsigning; bush43; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrislaw
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To: GOPrincess

Sorry about your family's experience. You are right about slippery slope. This denial of food and water is an easy way for doctors, owners of hospices, etc. to get "rid" of patients without actually killing them by injection. I heard a geriatric specialist actually admit that he does this in his practice cause if he injected patients, he could be accused of murder while starvation is just allowing them to die.

Scary.


321 posted on 03/20/2005 11:52:34 PM PST by whadizit (A)
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To: ClintonBeGone

but they can't deny someone standing if they've met the statutory requirements provided by congress.

Yes they can.


322 posted on 03/20/2005 11:53:20 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
"It's a law that applies to one person, and one person only -- and could result in a federal court sentencing her to death. Sorry, but that's unconstitutional."

hmmmm, but it's alright for a State Court to sentence her to death?

323 posted on 03/20/2005 11:53:27 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: webheart

"I am as agnostic as anyone out there, and not a big bible person either, but I know that there is a right and a wrong"

You know what's funny? I'm hearing that ALOT lately from non-religious types around here.. what's more disturbing are the pro-death wishes of some so-called "christians"... heck even Greer calls himself that...shudder.


324 posted on 03/20/2005 11:54:01 PM PST by Awestruck (It's About LIFE, Stupid.)
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To: flaglady47

To this:"Bush would so kick this little nothing's ass ...."

You replied:"That little nothing is 6'7" tall. "

My money's on Bush - I imagine 'cowboy' would be very diligent in protecting a lady in distress!!!


325 posted on 03/20/2005 11:54:01 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: peyton randolph

If they refuse to do so, Congress can (and will) impeach and remove the judges involved.

Wrong.


326 posted on 03/20/2005 11:54:20 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: TheCrusader

RVW wasn't a law it was a judicial ruling.


327 posted on 03/20/2005 11:55:01 PM PST by Borges
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To: peyton randolph

"If you denied food and water to an infant would that be considered "pulling the plug" or would that be considered murder?
If a mother did it, she'd get a Lifetime Channel movie of the week, a book deal, and better than even odds of being found not guilty by reason of insanity."

And at certain universities, I hear you get your own plaque.


328 posted on 03/20/2005 11:55:26 PM PST by Awestruck (It's About LIFE, Stupid.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
There are private bills passed by Congress all the time that provide relief for a named individual and these are non-controversial. I would surprised if the courts found a bill unconstitutional that simply allowed the petitioner to bring a case before them. It does not interfere with the separation of powers in any way or grant any special treatment to Terri Schiavo. The bill simply grants her and her parents the same rights all other Americans take for granted. I don't see why any one, least of all a federal judge, would have a problem with it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
329 posted on 03/20/2005 11:56:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: defenderSD
You mean like the slippery slopes in Barney Frank's house?

ROTFLMAO

330 posted on 03/20/2005 11:57:07 PM PST by DBeers
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To: thoughtomator
Nor is it an ex-post facto law. It neither imposes punishment nor changes any procedure that did not exist before. As a private bill, it ought to have passed the House by a voice vote. Why the Democrats insisted on a roll call vote is one of those things we'll never understand.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
331 posted on 03/20/2005 11:58:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: defenderSD
You mean like the slippery slopes in Barney Frank's house?

No, I mean the previously documented slippery slope that went from forced sterilizations to mercy killings to mass killings of mentally incapacitated people.

332 posted on 03/20/2005 11:58:49 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: goldstategop

It's easy to understand. Every moment they delayed it is another moment closer to death for Terri. As death-worshippers, they are obliged to do what they can to sow destruction.


333 posted on 03/21/2005 12:00:02 AM PST by thoughtomator (Death to Terri! Death to Israel! Death to the Great Satan!)
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To: thoughtomator

"I'm shocked at how an otherwise near-uniformly pro-life forum has managed to find so much support for the idea of legalized murder, especially when the circumstances in which she sustained her injuries are anything but clear."

I just wonder what all the local jerks are gonna say if she begins to talk again and reveals that A) she did NOT want to die, and B)Michael did something to put her in this state...



334 posted on 03/21/2005 12:00:35 AM PST by Awestruck (It's About LIFE, Stupid.)
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To: Zivasmate
I think some people get a little too tightly focused. It's like when someone is LOOKING for a fight/argument. Even if you say "Hey I don't wanna argue" they'll say "What was THAT supposed to mean?!"

I guess these people thought those "W Stands For Women" stickers meant that Bush's middle name was "Women".

335 posted on 03/21/2005 12:00:44 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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To: thoughtomator; ndt
I am uncomfortable with the fact we have to come up with such uncomfortable laws in the first place.

This long, drawn out battle between Schiavo and the Schindlers is a case study in judicial breakdown. Some weakness in the process has been exploited:

When something as obvious as the right to l can be threatened on the basis of hearsay, and with complete and deliberate magisterial ignorance of medical reports like this one, which might give a CLUE as to how Terri ended up in her sorry plight. Multiple fractures, anyone?

USSC Amendment 14
Section. 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

336 posted on 03/21/2005 12:01:01 AM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: Lexinom

Great post.


337 posted on 03/21/2005 12:02:09 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Joe_October

I think President Bush already did whoop Michael's butt. I think he whooped Michael's butt tonight when he signed the bill to save Terri.

Thank President Bush! I just can't say that enough! Thank You President Bush!


338 posted on 03/21/2005 12:02:12 AM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Borges
It doesn't interfere with any arrangement that currently exists for the care of Terri Schiavo in Florida. All it does is allow Terri's parents to petition a federal court to hear her case. I expect it'll be some years before there's a final resolution.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
339 posted on 03/21/2005 12:02:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: defenderSD

"You're basically a libertarian Hank. That may not be your political party, but that seems to be your philosophy. There are actually a lot of libertarians in the US. They just don't know they're libertarians."

There's been a more Libertarian branch of the Republican party for years. Just as there is a populist wing, a Rockefeller Republican wing, a pro-life wing, etc. etc. etc. Remember, the big tent.


340 posted on 03/21/2005 12:02:41 AM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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