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House Calling Emergency Session to Vote on Schiavo Legislation; Senate Passes Bill First
AP ^ | 3/20/05 | Jim Abrams

Posted on 03/20/2005 2:52:24 PM PST by Jean S

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To: DJ MacWoW
Which is the whole point. "Prove" she's PVS and set a precedent. Not reading much anymore, are you.

Apperently it has already been proven otherwise she would not be in the situation she is in.

I'm not a doctor so it would be rather difficult to prove one way or the other but it has been proven legally and medically to the satisfaction of the laws of the state of Florida.

If that where not the true then how do you explain that her feeding tube has been removed not once but three times now and no one is or has been arrested let alone tried for her attempted murder.

61 posted on 03/20/2005 4:23:23 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: mjtobias

62 posted on 03/20/2005 4:23:38 PM PST by CedarDave (Add keyword "TERRISCHIAVO" to every Terri thread to make searching easier.)
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To: PFKEY

No. It's not proven. Just a court approved diagnosis.


63 posted on 03/20/2005 4:24:40 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: doc30
I firmly believe, however, it is not the roll of congress to address what is clearly a family matter that belongs in the state courts.

I agree.

I guess the lesson we should all take from this is to have our wishes in writting.

I wonder how many people having followed this case have done so after seeing all the pain and anguish this case has caused.

64 posted on 03/20/2005 4:26:15 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: doc30

You're hopelessly influenced by the MSM.

Brain dead doesnt mean following people with her eyes. Brain Dead does not mean attempting to speak.

Last time I checked, Brain Dead doesn't mean knowing what having your feeding tube removed means to you.


65 posted on 03/20/2005 4:27:03 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Silly Hippies, Bush Won!!!!)
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To: doc30
I used brain dead as a non technical term.

Brain death is a term defined with legal implications. Your casual and erroneous use of the term in reference to Terri Schiavo reflects negligence and cripples any hope for credibility in your arguments.

66 posted on 03/20/2005 4:27:03 PM PST by NautiNurse (May the road rise up to meet you; May the wind always be at your back)
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To: NautiNurse
You need to see Terri's CAT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1366396/posts

67 posted on 03/20/2005 4:27:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: MizSterious
He might harvest her organs first, avaricious little creep that he is. And yes, I agree with your conclusion. All murderers like to at least try to cover their tracks.

He knows there's a chance the doctors doing the retrieval might, just might, be curious enough to do a little investigation on their own and oops, there's the prove in the report or at least everyone in the OR would know the truth. No, his only chance is to turn all evidence to ashes immediately.

68 posted on 03/20/2005 4:27:46 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: DJ MacWoW
No. It's not proven. Just a court approved diagnosis.

Well this diagnosis is sufficient to have her starved to death.

69 posted on 03/20/2005 4:28:31 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: lt.america

This case has been heard again and again and again throught the court system. What I will say is that many friends and colleagues who are republican and/or conservative do not support dragging this case on and on and on. Judge Greer was re-elected with 65% of the votes in his jurisdiction - right where I live. This was after his opponents attacked him viciously regarding Terri's case. He still won. That's a good indication of how the people local to the case feel about it and after living with it for the last 10 years.


70 posted on 03/20/2005 4:28:54 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I watched my mom die a few years ago. Different circumstances altogether, of course. But I'll tell you -- the human body is a remarkable piece of machinery. The will to live is a strong, strong thing. It was amazing to see what she went through (with cancer) and how much longer she lived, way beyond what we expected. You could see the life force just not stopping; it is how we are created.

I have great hope for Terri, in the face of the many tremendous odds she faces. And I believe, as well, that Michael Schiavo and those others who are responsible for this will, in the end, be seen in Truth for the scum they are. Do not despair.


71 posted on 03/20/2005 4:29:00 PM PST by bboop
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To: PFKEY
Did you mean for this post to go to someone else?

Nope.

72 posted on 03/20/2005 4:29:00 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: doc30

I've just started reading the posts on this particular thread and am confident by the end others will have torn you to shreds. Bu-bye.


73 posted on 03/20/2005 4:30:45 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: DJ MacWoW
No. It's not proven. Just a court approved diagnosis.

On the basis of two doctors chosen by the husband and an openly pro-euthenasia doctor chosen by the court, who investigated Terri for less than an hour each, IIRC.

How about letting Terri be examined for a week by someone who doesn't want her dead and can ensure that she's not being drugged?

74 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:46 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: doc30
The Repubs. need to stop pandering to the pro-life crowd

I'm a proud member of the pro-life crowd. So, I guess by your comments, you are the opposite....pro-death? Interesting.

75 posted on 03/20/2005 4:32:16 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives.....)
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To: doc30

Hitler was elected by the majority of his people too.


76 posted on 03/20/2005 4:32:37 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Northern Yankee

"If Gov. Bush decides to send in the National Guard to settle this matter, he has the power to do so."

Yes, he does, but will he? I hope so. Time is fast running out. I fear that this time around Terri may not live beyond the expected.


77 posted on 03/20/2005 4:32:42 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: NautiNurse; doc30
Brain death is a term defined with legal implications. Your casual and erroneous use of the term in reference to Terri Schiavo reflects negligence and cripples any hope for credibility in your arguments.

The credibility that is lacking is in your arguement.

Whether using the term brain dead or PVS, which I think is the accurate medical term, you are on the losing side of this arguement.

I don't want to see Terri killed die and I'm sure doc30 doesn't either but it looks like that is what's going to happen.

If not this time then maybe the fourth time around.

78 posted on 03/20/2005 4:33:36 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
Well this diagnosis is sufficient to have her starved to death.

Only in Pinellas county Fla. The home of Scientology. Have you read about them? NOT nice people.

79 posted on 03/20/2005 4:33:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: PFKEY
I guess the lesson we should all take from this is to have our wishes in writting.

The proposed FLorida bill was worse. People with living wills would have to amend them. Also, people deliberately not eating or drinking due to terminal illness can leagally refuse noutrition and make this known to their family and doctors in advance, but the momoent they become unconcious, the tube goes in unless its a notarized statement contrary. Much too intrusive in my opinion.

80 posted on 03/20/2005 4:35:06 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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