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Terri Schiavo's family have been denied all visitation per Terri's sister

Posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by kcvl

Per Fox News...


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KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischavio; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

No I am saying that by the USSC refusing to hear the case that effected in the lower court being upheld.


621 posted on 03/20/2005 4:27:39 PM PST by marajade
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To: AmishDude
Just saying "I don't want to live that way" while half-asleep or on the way to a restaurant does not make a legal statement.

You cannot possibly be serious; of course it does; all day long in every courtroom in America where cases like these are decided.

622 posted on 03/20/2005 4:27:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Hildy

Thank you!


623 posted on 03/20/2005 4:28:05 PM PST by tertiary01 (Everyone has obsessions. Mine is keeping Terri alive.)
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To: All
FYI - from a 2001 deposition. I can't, however, find the year the article was written; therefore, the information stated at the end is most likely not current.

Michael Schiavo's Violence Toward Women Revealed in Deposition

To: National Desk

Contact: Gary McCullough for the Schindler Family, 202-546-0054

CLEARWATER, Fl., Feb.11 /Christian Wire Service/ -- In late 1991, 1½ years after the mysterious incident that left Terri Schindler Schiavo severely handicapped, Michael Schiavo became intimately involved with Cindy Shook. The romance continued for approximately one year.

In April 2001, Cindy Shook (married name Brasher) was interviewed by an investigator. Unwilling to come forward because of her immense fear of Schiavo, Shook had to be subpoenaed and was subsequently deposed on May 8, 2001.

In the deposition Cindy Shook described Michael Schiavo:

"I am concerned about retaliation because I have a child - I have children and a husband. I know him, I know what he told me. I said he could be a very mean person."

She spoke of how Michael Schiavo stalked her for close to a year after the breakup:

"I would look up and he would be behind me in traffic. It continued for several months after he didn’t work at the hospital. [I] would change lanes, try to make a turn and he would do the same. He did this about ten times.

"One time he was behind me in traffic he got next to me in a two-lane going the same way, and he changed lanes basically right on top of where I was at, and I had to swerve not to be hit. I had to swerve off the road. Michael ran me off the road. I considered it as stalking, dangerous and guessed potentially life threatening."

Michael Schiavo has told the court that he knows what Terri would want done to her if she were in her present medical situation. He says he knows because Terri told him. Regarding that alleged conversation--Cindy Shook said that Michael Schiavo said:

"How the hell should I know, we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."

The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation is the official organization responsible for speaking on behalf of the Schindler family. For more information and background on the case, visit the foundation’s website at www.terrisfight.org

On May 6, 1990, two months after the mysterious incident that left Terri Schindler Schiavo severely mentally disabled, Dr. Hamilton, an Orthopedic Surgeon, examined her. A year later Terri was demonstrating painful reactions to physical therapy treatment, so on March 5, 1991, the Mediplex therapist director ordered a bone scan.

This bone scan revealed a healed broken right femur bone and healed bone fractures in Terri Schindler Schiavo’s ribs, pelvis, spine and ankle.

Dr. W. Campbell Walker concluded that Terri has a history of trauma and presumed that the other multiple areas of abnormal activity also relate to previous trauma.

As Terri’s lone guardian, Michael Schiavo has been able to conceal the bone scan and examinations from her parents, brother, and sister for over ten years. To date, Michael Schiavo has not allowed the family to see the results of the May 6 examination, the emergency room records from the day of the incident, nor any of the accompanying x-rays.

Michael Schiavo's inability to be forthright over the bone scan brings into question his lone description of Terri's activity at the time of the incident. His choice to have his wife terminated rather than rehabilitated may not be in pursuit of her interests, but to continue to conceal the level of physical violence he displayed toward Terri.

The bone scan evaluation is available online at www.earnedmedia.org/bonescan.htm

624 posted on 03/20/2005 4:28:35 PM PST by STARWISE (RIGHT HAS BECOME WRONG -- WRONG HAS BECOME A RIGHT .. PRAY PRAY PRAY FOR TERRI SCHIAVO!)
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To: Mo1
Could it be that he is tired of court by now? You could be right. He could be satan on earth. I disagree. If you look back at the deposition testimony, Terri's family said that if she stayed in this condition and got gangrene, they would want her arms and legs chopped off, and continued on.

Who is being radical here? My wife and I made an appointment to have living wills made in 2 weeks. That is the whole tragedy of this. Even if you want the plugs to remain in place, you should get written documentation that says so. This whole case rests upon the fact that nothing was written. I would not want to be in the state Terri is in for 15 years. Who here honestly would? That is my big question. Who here would say, keep at this for 15 years, and then keep going some more? Seriously. Most of the Michael is a butcher crowd wouldn't want to keep the tubes in themselves at this point. I worked with very special children for 8 years. I am no euthanasist. If Terri Schiavo said that she wanted to be kept alive no matter what, and there was proof of it, I would say all the power to her. But without that proof, what we have now is a tragedy. There also is my question of the symbolism of this. There are many people in the same situation. Why aren't they being fought for with such vehemence? Baby Sun just died in Texas, over the objection of his guardian. Not much of a peep here. Terri Schiavo is being used as a political football and it disgusts me.

625 posted on 03/20/2005 4:29:27 PM PST by dogbyte12 (Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?)
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To: Howlin
You might want to get that important information to the insurance company that paid off to Schaivo so they can get their money back -- because that is EXACTLY what the jury found in that case.

She may have been bulimic, she may not have been bulimic. Her teeth should be damaged if she was. OJ might have been guilty, he may not have been guilty. We can only believe the jury because otherwise all we have is the word of OJ and Nicole's family.

626 posted on 03/20/2005 4:29:28 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Peach
It's happened in my family twice and neither of them had living wills.

Damn. In sincerity, that breaks my heart. And you are very lucky that the affected relatives saw eye to eye. But I missed whether or not you answered a question posed by somebody else, as to whether your loved ones were starved to death just for want of food, or if their bodies could not support life but for the assistance of machinery.

627 posted on 03/20/2005 4:29:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: ViLaLuz
In Terri's 1998 hearings, Felos infamously advocated what he called the "spoon test." The test of whether one is a person with a full right to life, he said, is whether he or she can raise a spoon to his lips unaided.
628 posted on 03/20/2005 4:29:53 PM PST by kcvl
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To: marajade
So then does the USSC agree with you then on the question of if Terri has received all her rights under law and protected for her by the Constitution of the United States?
629 posted on 03/20/2005 4:30:00 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: ViLaLuz
Numerous medical doctors, too, have said with therapy, Terri could learn to eat again.

And numerous have said she could not.

630 posted on 03/20/2005 4:30:04 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Dixielander
Don't you mean "What is Judge Greer?" Funny but I can't get the idea out of my head that he and others might be involved in a Satanic cult.

Sounds like you've been hanging around Google Groups too damn long.

631 posted on 03/20/2005 4:30:18 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: Peach
"And Mr. Schindler admitted under oath that he was angry at Michael for not getting any of the malpractice $$."

Did'nt I read somewhere that Schindlers had taken Terri home for a while, but were financially unable to keep it up?

If so, might they not be entitled some funds?

632 posted on 03/20/2005 4:30:43 PM PST by drc43 (Happily posting red herrings till I know better.)
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To: pickyourpoison

i was being rhetorically sarcastic. he is excrement.


633 posted on 03/20/2005 4:30:54 PM PST by avile (take the money and run with the ho)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I don't know. We'll see if Congress' new law will be successful. I predict it won't, but we will see.


634 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:23 PM PST by marajade
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To: the Deejay

I read on another tread that he was a nurse and was working at the Pinellas County jail.


635 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:28 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: drc43

In 1990 the Schindlers took Terri home (while Michael was living with them, btw) but found it overwhelming and returned her to Rehab. I haven't seen anything about financially demanding.


636 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:39 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: marajade
i>She can't be fed. She has a tube because she doesn't have the capacity to be given food or water. If it was tried, she may choke to death.

That's not necessarily true. michael schiavo WON'T allow the tests to determine if that's actually the case.

637 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:46 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: marajade
Well in this case Michael Schiavo saying that Terri would not want to be artifically be kept alive under oath in testimony and seen as credible was upheld all the way up to the USSC.

I'm not sure what you think this means. To me, "credible" witnesses are "those that are not complete, raving loons." No court would convict me of murder if all there were were a "credible" witness claiming I had contracted a killing. Credible is a low threshold and is in no way definitive.

638 posted on 03/20/2005 4:31:54 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Did you read the report linked earlier in the thread?


639 posted on 03/20/2005 4:32:22 PM PST by marajade
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To: attiladhun2

How does she get nourishment if not from a tube?


640 posted on 03/20/2005 4:32:25 PM PST by Hildy
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